11-08-2018, 03:50 PM
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#4501
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by David Struch
This whole goal-tending problem is snowballing into a crisis very rapidly.
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Maybe someone in that caravan can play net. Leave no stone unturned, Brad.
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11-08-2018, 04:03 PM
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#4502
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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2018/2019 Trade Speculation and Rumors
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Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
A goalie I would want to take a stab at is Mrazek.
Only 26 and already has 191 games on his belt. His stats recently haven’t been so great with the poor play by the Wings in his final years there and not so hot defense in Philly.
He’s the same age as Rittich but has 164 games more played.
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I would be hesitant to pursue Mrazek. Detroit was quick and eager to move on from him because of apparent attitude and coachability issues.
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11-08-2018, 04:08 PM
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#4503
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
I would be hesitant to pursue Mrazek. Detroit was quick and eager to move on from him because of apparent attitude and coachability issues.
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But maybe thats exactly what we need? A goalie who won't listen to sigalet!!!
That just might work
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11-08-2018, 04:30 PM
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#4504
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boy Wonder
But maybe thats exactly what we need? A goalie who won't listen to sigalet!!!
That just might work
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Which brings to mind a question I have for those in the “fire Sigalet” camp:
Mike Smith is struggling and David Rittich is playing well. Which one is tuning Sigalet out?
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11-08-2018, 04:45 PM
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#4505
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
Which brings to mind a question I have for those in the “fire Sigalet” camp:
Mike Smith is struggling and David Rittich is playing well. Which one is tuning Sigalet out?
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The one who speaks choppy English is my guess.
All he asks from Sigalet is to ding him in the mask. Takes Sigalet roughly 6 shots to hit him twice.
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11-08-2018, 04:45 PM
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#4506
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
I think there is something to this, and it may help to explain some of the weird disparities we see in Smith's game, such as the difference between his record on home ice compared to on the road.
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His best game was also the game where the Flames gave up the most shots.
I guess Smith has problems with focus, which may be why he's so active with the puck handling.
He's just going to have to bear down. The team can't let him face more shots because he plays better that way.
Maybe during stoppages and tv timeouts the team can fire pucks on him ;p
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11-08-2018, 04:49 PM
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#4507
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Both I hope.
Maybe Smith never listened and this is just a case of age catching up.
Maybe Rittich figured out last season that listening to Sigalet was no help, so he is doing his own thing.
OR maybe goalie coaching doesn't factor into short term gains/blips.
If Rittich (or Gillies, or Parsons) becomes a legit starter this year and commends Sigalet for some of the heavy lifting to get him there, then I guess I was wrong. Havn't seen/heard anything to change my mind yet.
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11-08-2018, 04:54 PM
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#4508
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache
The one who speaks choppy English is my guess...
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You guys are all guessing.
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11-08-2018, 05:26 PM
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#4509
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
Which brings to mind a question I have for those in the “fire Sigalet” camp:
Mike Smith is struggling and David Rittich is playing well. Which one is tuning Sigalet out?
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We've had plenty of goalies go on hot streaks under Sigalet in small sample sizes... Hiller, Smith, Rittich, Ramo, Ortio, Johnson, have all given us a stretch where they looked like a starter. But when the kinks start manifesting (and they will for all goalies), Sigalet is consistently unable to deal with the kinks. Smith's shoddy positioning. Hiller's rebound control. Ortio's inability to come in cold. Johnson's glove hand. Rittich's tracking. Elliott's... whatever you wanna call his 2017 playoffs. The common thread is that all these goalies have had stretches of looking compact, calm, in-control, but as they start slipping the slip becomes an avalanche instead of a slight miscue. Even Ramo, who is to-date Sigalet's magnum opus, had to be sent down to the minors to work on his game.
So to answer your question - so far this season Rittich hasn't had any kinks because he's been good since his first regular season game (and we know preseason games are tough to get a read on simply because the timing and defensive play are not there). But he starts slipping in an area I do not believe Sigalet will be able to work with him on it until it is too late. Smith's had kinks and shown zero progression.
I don't think it's a coincidence that the teams with good goaltending - NYR, WAS, COL, ANA are able to work with goalies on their weak areas even as the goalies change. Devin Dubnyk wouldn't be who he is today, without his short time spent in Arizona (where he worked with the same goalie coach as Smith). You either believe that goalie coaches accomplish something or that they're a throwaway job. If the latter, why have Sigalet? If the former, what has Sigalet accomplished? He has an awful resume where the last three (!) seasons, and counting have been done in by goaltenders playing below their expected level. If Hiller gave us his own average goaltending we probably make the playoffs. If Elliott gave us his own average goaltending we probably beat the Ducks. And right now, I don't believe Smith is playing to the limit of his potential and I don't think that's as simple as "He's too old" (He was outplayed by a 38 YO last game). Smith even now should be more capable of league-average goaltending even if we can't expect a .930 from him.
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11-08-2018, 05:29 PM
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#4510
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Seattle, WA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
Which brings to mind a question I have for those in the “fire Sigalet” camp:
Mike Smith is struggling and David Rittich is playing well. Which one is tuning Sigalet out?
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Smith never spent any time with the guy in Stockton since coming to Calgary and Rittich did.
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11-08-2018, 05:33 PM
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#4511
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
You guys are all guessing.
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Shut er down boys, he's got it all figured out. Only hockey executives and insiders are allowed to post from now on!
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11-08-2018, 05:39 PM
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#4512
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdonkey
Shut er down boys, he's got it all figured out. Only hockey executives and insiders are allowed to post from now on!
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its spelled insiderrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrs
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11-08-2018, 05:43 PM
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#4513
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdonkey
Shut er down boys, he's got it all figured out. Only hockey executives and insiders are allowed to post from now on!
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Post what you want. It doesn't stop me from pointing out the unsubstantiated speculations and guesswork. Especially not when asserted with such bravado.
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11-08-2018, 05:47 PM
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#4514
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Seattle, WA
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I posted a fact.
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11-08-2018, 05:52 PM
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#4515
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DoubleK
I posted a fact.
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Yes.
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11-08-2018, 06:06 PM
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#4516
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bleeding Red
OR maybe goalie coaching doesn't factor into short term gains/blips.
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It’s this.
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11-08-2018, 06:11 PM
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#4517
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
You guys are all guessing.
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Also implying
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11-08-2018, 06:19 PM
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#4518
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
I would be hesitant to pursue Mrazek. Detroit was quick and eager to move on from him because of apparent attitude and coachability issues.
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It’s only for a year, is a decade younger than Smith, and has starter experience. Would cost fairly cheap too. I think a Mrazek/Rittich duo would do rather well.
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11-08-2018, 06:28 PM
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#4519
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
You guys are all guessing.
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Reasoning, more like. He would be giving Rittich attention, but not to the amount of the effort he puts into the starter. Wouldn't you allocate your working time such?
If his teammates find Smith's attitude to be a problem, and that seems to be the hot topic on the rumor mill, I point instead at the guy in his ear telling him about how good he's doing and shying away from criticism like it's a disease.
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11-08-2018, 06:34 PM
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#4520
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
It’s only for a year, is a decade younger than Smith, and has starter experience. Would cost fairly cheap too. I think a Mrazek/Rittich duo would do rather well.
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Can we hire Hasek to be our new goalie coach and get the Czech trifecta going?
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