[Signing] Sharks sign Evander Kane to extension (7 years, $7 million AAV)

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

17/18: 29 goals in 78 games
16/17: 28 goals in 70 games
15/16: 20 goals in 65 games
14/15: 10 goals in 37 games
13/14: 19 goals in 63 games
12/13: 17 goals in 48 games
11/12: 30 goals in 74 games
10/11: 19 goals in 73 games

and he's still not 27 years old! He's a consistent offensive threat.

If he played hard even 70% of the time or didn't disrupt his team this contract wouldn't too bad but those totals aren't a whole lot better than Brouwer's who at $4.5 most people hate.

San Jose can have this rock star, I'm glad he's nowhere near the Flames

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

If he played hard even 70% of the time or didn't disrupt his team this contract wouldn't too bad but those totals aren't a whole lot better than Brouwer's who at $4.5 most people hate.

San Jose can have this rock star, I'm glad he's nowhere near the Flames

There is a world of difference between the skill sets of Kane and Brouwer.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

There is a world of difference between the skill sets of Kane and Brouwer.

Is there? Seems like a lot of the time in Buffalo he looked disinterested and invisible. Sounds a lot like Brouwer actually and the stats do not back up that he's got an elite skillset. He's basically a more skilled version of Ferland but how much would you pay for a guy that's a little better than Ferland? Not this much I don't think.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Is there? Seems like a lot of the time in Buffalo he looked disinterested and invisible. Sounds a lot like Brouwer actually and the stats do not back up that he's got an elite skillset.

There is.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

There is.

Please enlighten us. What intangibles does he bring? Doesn't seem like leadership or success as his last two teams were happy to see him go.

[Poe969]

Come on now, I don't care if Kane stole your girlfriend ...comparing him to brouwer is a joke. This summer Brouwer likely gets bought out while Kane is getting a 7/7 contract. As for Kane being invisible in Buffalo it's pretty safe to say that most of the team did. There are just some players that play bad on bad teams but when they're on a decent team play a whole lot better. People thought Kessel was terrible while he was with the leafs and he was in the running for the Con Smythe and helped win 2 cups with the pens. I'm not saying Kane is going to turn out to be like Kessel but I'm willing to bet dollars to doughnut holes that he'll be closer to Kessel than Brouwer.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

There is a world of difference between the skill sets of Kane and Brouwer.

I think he’s a better player than Brouwer... but really is there that much of a difference in terms of offensive production? Their stat lines almost look identical outside of a single 30g season for Kane a loooonnngg time ago.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

There is a world of difference between the skill sets of Kane and Brouwer.

I take this to be admitting that the goal totals are pretty similar to Brouwer's in the 8 years before he came to Calgary.

So what are the differences? Kane is slightly faster (not a speed demon, but Brouwer is below average). Brouwer hits a little more, fights more, and plays better defence IMO. Brouwer is apparently very well liked in the room. I'm not so sure you can say that about Kane /s.

Now Kane maybe has an upward trajectory. Maybe. But he's statistically past his prime.

[Red]

7/7 contract for Prince Kane? Good riddance. Guy is toxic.



The Sharks probably signed him to justify the trade. This will be a move the Sharks will be regretting for a long time.

[RichKlit]

That contract is going to be an absolute disaster. I’m actually stunned he’s being offered anything close to that. He has done nothing remotely close to earning that type of salary.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

I think he’s a better player than Brouwer... but really is there that much of a difference in terms of offensive production? Their stat lines almost look identical outside of a single 30g season for Kane a loooonnngg time ago.

In fairness, Kane also scored 17 in the lockout year, which is close to another 30 goal season. Of course Brouwer scored 19 that year

[Toonage]

Kane is 26 and Brouwer is 32. Are we comparing what Kane could be at 32 to what Brouwer is now or are we trying an apples to apples comparison, which isn't fair to either guy really.

[CroFlames]

His attitude issues aside, that is a massive overpayment.

Do they think this average 39 point player will turn into a perennial 60 or 70 point player for the next 7 seasons?

Pretty stunned to hear this news actually.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Kane is 26 and Brouwer is 32. Are we comparing what Kane could be at 32 to what Brouwer is now or are we trying an apples to apples comparison, which isn't fair to either guy really.

This is true. When Brouwer was signed here he was what, 30? And worth $4.5. Let's say he was signed at 26, would he be worth $7? Probably not. But $6? That's quite imaginable.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Kane is 26 and Brouwer is 32. Are we comparing what Kane could be at 32 to what Brouwer is now or are we trying an apples to apples comparison, which isn't fair to either guy really.

I think Brouwer at 27 years old scored 25 goals so similar production although I think we can all agree Kane is gifted with more talent. Safe to say Kane will outscore Brouwer from 27 to 32 but I'm not sure if it's going to be a large margin. Sharks have the cap space and felt that his small sample size was enough to conclude he's a good fit for them and given they are trying to win now and don't have any blue chip prospects ready to step in, it's probably a risk they can afford to take.

Maybe a better comparison is Lucic who is only two years older and has actually been a much more consistent producer than Kane and yet there's not an Oilers fan that wouldn't trade his contract (a lesser contract at that) for a bag of pucks as the problem with non-elite wingers like this is that they usually don't warrant these types of contracts and when they aren't scoring they aren't bringing much in the way of value at all.

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by dammage79

7x7? More than I figured he would get. Good for Buffalo too, they get that 1st now.

He hasn't truly had a breakout campaign in a while, but based on his play with the sharks, I'd bet a number of 30 goal, 60 point season are easily within reach. Combine that with his physical play and he is easily worth that much when you look at some of the comparables.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Please enlighten us. What intangibles does he bring? Doesn't seem like leadership or success as his last two teams were happy to see him go.

His last team gave him a $7x7 contract.

And teams would have lined up to offer him similar deals.

The proof of his value is in what other knowledgeable GM's think he is worth.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

His last team gave him a $7x7 contract.

And teams would have lined up to offer him similar deals.

The proof of his value is in what other knowledgeable GM's think he is worth.

So, to stick with our current example, you also think Brouwer is of fair value.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

His last team gave him a $7x7 contract.

And teams would have lined up to offer him similar deals.

The proof of his value is in what other knowledgeable GM's think he is worth.

That's a terrible argument.

If that was always the case, Ehrhoff would not have been bought out with 700 billion left on his deal. Yashin wouldn't have been on the Islanders cap for 10 years after he was bought out.

GM's make mistakes all the time. See: Brouwer, Troy.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Kane is a threat. He's tenacious, in your face, and he'll hit anything that moves. On the ice, he is similar.