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Old 07-10-2020, 07:39 PM   #21
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All stats? So neal will get the goals, Flames get the pick!
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Wait even for the record books???
No, for things like performance bonuses and waiver requirements and UFA rights.
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Has there been any talk about potential compensation/revenue equalization for team that had a large portion of home games remaining before the cancellation of the season (ie the Flames)

Seems a little tough for teams relying on gate revenue, considering some still have 25% of their home schedule left.
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Has there been any talk about potential compensation/revenue equalization for team that had a large portion of home games remaining before the cancellation of the season (ie the Flames)



Seems a little tough for teams relying on gate revenue, considering some still have 25% of their home schedule left.
For a lot of teams like the Flames, all those tickets are already sold, aren't they?

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For a lot of teams like the Flames, all those tickets are already sold, aren't they?
And being refunded. They're not keeping the money for games not played.
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Has there been any talk about potential compensation/revenue equalization for team that had a large portion of home games remaining before the cancellation of the season (ie the Flames)

Seems a little tough for teams relying on gate revenue, considering some still have 25% of their home schedule left.
Seems like an internal issue for the league side, irrelevant to this CBA.
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Old 07-10-2020, 09:42 PM   #28
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Reportedly no compliance buyouts.
Good. There are teams on worse cap trouble than the Flames even with Lucic.

Go get Cirelli Tre. (well, try for Point first)
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I edited my previous post regarding the MOU to clarify a few things. The prorated stats will only be used for contract-related things (UFA eligibility, Waiver exemption, performance bonuses, etc.). For all other purposes, the stats will be the stats. Any stats during the play-in round will count as postseason stats for the players.


Another bit I noticed: During the season, teams are now required to give players 4 days off per calendar month (a maximum of 2 can be while the team is on the road), rather than the previous 1 day off every 7 days. It basically works out the same but gives them a little more leeway on scheduling things. For the partial months, the requirement is 1 day off every 7 days in October and 1 day off every 10 days in April. (pg. 26 / #69 - nice)
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Good. There are teams on worse cap trouble than the Flames even with Lucic.

Go get Cirelli Tre. (well, try for Point first)
What about Boeser?
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Old 07-10-2020, 11:17 PM   #31
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Interesting change to Qualifying Offers that helps eliminate the ballooning effect of backloaded RFA bridge deals.

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For SPCs signed after the date of this agreement, if the minimum
Paragraph 1 NHL Salary portion of a Player’s Qualifying Offer
would otherwise be greater than 120% of the Averaged Amount
of the SPC, the minimum Paragraph 1 NHL Salary portion of the
Qualifying Offer will instead be 120% of the Averaged Amount.
For example, if a Player has a 3 year SPC with Paragraph 1 NHL
Salaries of $3.0 million in Year 1, $6.0 million in Year 2, and $9.0
million in Year 3, the minimum Paragraph 1 NHL Salary portion
of the Qualifying Offer will be $7.2 million. If, however, such
Player’s 3 year SPC had Paragraph 1 NHL Salaries of $5.0 million
in Year 1, $6.0 million in Year 2, and $7.0 million in Year 3, the
minimum Paragraph 1 NHL Salary portion of the Qualifying Offer
will be $7.0 million.

edit: duh, applies to contracts after this CBA is ratified

If I am interpreting that correctly, Matthew Tkachuk's QO goes down from $9 million to $8.4 million after the 21/22 season.

If they don't include signing bonuses (which aren't typically included in paragraph 1 salary) it would have gone down to $5.4 mil

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Interesting change to Qualifying Offers that helps eliminate the ballooning effect of backloaded RFA bridge deals.




If I am interpreting that correctly, Matthew Tkachuk's QO goes down from $9 million to $8.4 million after the 21/22 season.
Yes but Getbak already mentioned it isnt retroactive. So for current contracts that isn't applied.
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Old 07-10-2020, 11:19 PM   #33
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Interesting change to Qualifying Offers that helps eliminate the ballooning effect of backloaded RFA bridge deals.




If I am interpreting that correctly, Matthew Tkachuk's QO goes down from $9 million to $8.4 million after the 21/22 season.
Don't think it should: "For SPCs signed after the date of this agreement".

Tkachuk's was signed before, so his QO shouldn't change I believe.
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Old 07-10-2020, 11:46 PM   #34
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And being refunded. They're not keeping the money for games not played.
Could you imagine?
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Old 07-13-2020, 08:00 PM   #35
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https://thehockeynews.com/news/artic...or-the-players

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With no early period to commence contract talks for five to seven days before free agency starts, GMs can't get their ducks in a row in advance. We're set to return to the era of frenzied Day-1 bidding wars
Interesting that the pre UFA day negotiating window is gone

Positioned as a win in the article, but it doesn’t drive real salaries up as players are ultimately still splitting the same amount of dollars
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Interesting that the pre UFA day negotiating window is gone

Positioned as a win in the article, but it doesn’t drive real salaries up as players are ultimately still splitting the same amount of dollars
My guess is they think it will help increase revenue on the next Canadian TV deal as whomever has the TV deal always has the most access, thus increasing ratings for things like FA Frenzy, Deadline Day and the Draft will add a few extra dollars into the pot.
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Old 07-13-2020, 08:07 PM   #37
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Interesting that the pre UFA day negotiating window is gone

Positioned as a win in the article, but it doesn’t drive real salaries up as players are ultimately still splitting the same amount of dollars
Kinda seems like a lose-lose for players and teams...minor win for fans to enjoy a bit more chaos and silliness on July 1?

As a player, I think I'd prefer having an extra few days to gather data/insight in making a decision on where I want to spend the next 1-8 years. I suppose it might give GMs a bit longer to come to their senses, but the urgency and competitiveness would remain...
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