06-09-2020, 08:28 PM
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#61
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
There's no cap hit either way, is there?
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Yes, LTIR still carries a cap hit. The team can replace that cap hit while the player is out, but it all still counts. More importantly, the money paid to both the injured player and the replacement(s) all counts towards the players' share of revenue.
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06-10-2020, 09:00 AM
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#62
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getbak
Yes, LTIR still carries a cap hit. The team can replace that cap hit while the player is out, but it all still counts. More importantly, the money paid to both the injured player and the replacement(s) all counts towards the players' share of revenue.
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IIRC the league is planning to change things so that LTIR doesn't count against the cap. (The current system is overly complicated and creates some weird situations, so would make sense.)
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06-10-2020, 09:14 AM
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#63
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getbak
Yes, LTIR still carries a cap hit.
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Yeah, but it seems to me this only matters for purposes of clearing the cap floor, since you're allowed to exceed the cap by the amount of money on LTIR. My point is that there's no real benefit to the organization if he were to retire and get a job with the organization for the same salary, so I don't know why they would do that.
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06-10-2020, 10:25 AM
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#64
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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He signed a well deserved contract. Should just ride it out on IR and then retire.
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06-10-2020, 10:43 AM
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#65
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Franchise Player
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If only he had itchy equipment he could get his money no problem
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06-10-2020, 11:31 AM
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#66
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: TEXAS!!
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Do you think he'd fit in a Scorch costume?
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06-10-2020, 11:53 AM
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#67
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
If only he had itchy equipment he could get his money no problem
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I believe equipment rashes are more of a common occurence with players of front loaded contracts making considerably less actual money in the last years of the deal.
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07-25-2020, 06:26 AM
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#68
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: MTL
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Ferland is back and on the second line. He has apparently been their best forward throughout the scrimmages.
Thought people might be interested to hear.
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07-25-2020, 04:11 PM
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#69
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Funkhouser
Ferland is back and on the second line. He has apparently been their best forward throughout the scrimmages.
Thought people might be interested to hear.
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I wish him well but think he is taking a pretty big risk here
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07-25-2020, 08:08 PM
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#70
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UnModerator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Ferland has been great in the mini-camp. I sincerely hope that the issues are behind him, for him and his family's sake.
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07-25-2020, 10:29 PM
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#71
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cannon7
He signed a well deserved contract. Should just ride it out on IR and then retire.
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It shows that playing in the NHL is his passion, not just the big money.
I fear the worst though, his style of play likely wont get him to another contract regardless of his passion.
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07-26-2020, 03:09 AM
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#72
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaster86
Ferland has been great in the mini-camp. I sincerely hope that the issues are behind him, for him and his family's sake.
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Issues like he has had don't just go away...he will have another concussion if he continues to play
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07-26-2020, 07:02 AM
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#73
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
Issues like he has had don't just go away...he will have another concussion if he continues to play
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* what everyone said about Crosby.
As someone who had extensive post concussion problems, I am concerned about him as well. But they have access to the best doctors in the country, I’m sure there is a plan in place to make sure he stays healthy. There is definitely risk, but nothing is a sure thing. Especially when it comes to head injuries.
I do hope I never see him drop the gloves though.
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07-26-2020, 08:25 AM
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#74
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Difference between Crosby and Ferland is Ferland plays a more physical role or game if his is going to be effective. That will only add risk. Crosby is a bad comparison. Ferland is more at risk of likely going the the route of a long list of other players. Hope the best for him though.
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07-26-2020, 08:28 AM
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#75
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbob
Difference between Crosby and Ferland is Ferland plays a more physical role or game if his is going to be effective. That will only add risk. Crosby is a bad comparison. Ferland is more at risk of likely going the the route of a long list of other players. Hope the best for him though.
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He took a slap shot to the face afterwards and broke his jaw. And had no concussion issues following. He missed almost a year prior due to concussion. It’s certainly an example of “one more head shot doesn’t mean relapse into concussion symptoms”.
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07-26-2020, 08:32 AM
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#76
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Also wasn’t Ferlands most recent (or second most recent) injury a shoulder injury? That everyone just assumed was a concussion because it’s Ferland.
The guy has an on call professional medical team. They know what they’re doing.
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07-26-2020, 09:37 AM
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#77
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Crash and Bang Winger
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And one of Crosby's "concussions" was actually a neck issue that was giving him some concussion-like symptoms if I am remembering correctly
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07-26-2020, 09:40 AM
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#78
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigErnSalute_16
And one of Crosby's "concussions" was actually a neck issue that was giving him some concussion-like symptoms if I am remembering correctly
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Well I somehow completely missed that news, interesting. If that’s the case then yeah that was a terrible example!
Edit: wow it’s great to see how much love there is for Ferland.
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07-26-2020, 10:09 AM
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#79
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Scrappy Noopers
Edit: wow it’s great to see how much love there is for Ferland.
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I rarely cheer for players after they’ve left or been traded away. Ferland is a definite exception to that rule (even though he plays for the Canucks).
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07-26-2020, 10:45 AM
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#80
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
Issues like he has had don't just go away...he will have another concussion if he continues to play
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It is possible he is receiving some medical advice from qualified experts on whether he should play.
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