[Rumour] Chris Tanev on Senators' radar

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

I don’t get the appeal of Chychrun since we already have a shot at keeping Hanifin.

And this just shows how elusive the tank turnaround is. Wasn’t Giroux supposed to be their magical veteran fairy dust to straighten out the team?

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by flambers

Sorry I don't agree, Ottawa has been in the rebuild stage for many years.

Flames have not yet started their "retool"

Senators are now viewing themselves are ready to take the next step (i.e. they are buyers, adding players like Giroux, Tarasenko, etc.)

I believe it cost them nothing except money for Tarasenko and Girioux

[Sylvanfan]

Chychryn is a bit like Hamonic before the Flames got him. He's been hyped as a number one defenceman on a ultra value contract. In reality he's nowhere close to that and his contract dollar value is okay, but he's more the offensive type who can put up good point totals, but isn't particularly good defensively. I can see why they would want to add Tanev to their group as that trio of Sandrrson, Chabot, and Chychryn need a real leader. I think a lot of teams could use him to help stabilize their younger D cores, so maybe trading for him now to keep him off the market is the thought process.

[Locke]

Tanev for Tkachuk.

"Come to Calgary...we have a history of ruining little brothers' lives! We're good at it."

*Maniacal Laugh*

[Infinit47]

Seems to me like Ottawa just wanted to get their tampering started early this year.

If Tanev is traded and offered an extension by his new team he knows knows Ottawa will be there on July 1 with an offer.

P.s not picking on Ottawa, tampering is a joke in this league.

[Locke]

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

Chychryn is a bit like Hamonic before the Flames got him. He's been hyped as a number one defenceman on a ultra value contract. In reality he's nowhere close to that and his contract dollar value is okay, but he's more the offensive type who can put up good point totals, but isn't particularly good defensively. I can see why they would want to add Tanev to their group as that trio of Sandrrson, Chabot, and Chychryn need a real leader. I think a lot of teams could use him to help stabilize their younger D cores, so maybe trading for him now to keep him off the market is the thought process.

I think he's a completely different D than Hamonic. I would compare him to Andersson, with Chychrun being a lot more injury prone. IMO Chychrun has the better shot, but Andersson creates more plays offensively. In fact, I think Chychrun just clocked a 107mph slapper in a Sens skill competition.

As far as Chychrun's defensive play, he generally has a good stick, a good gap, and he can use his body to separate forwards away from the puck. I think he sometimes gets caught in no-mans land when looking to generate offense, and if a forward manages to drag the puck past his stick check, then he gets passed Chychrun pretty easily.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

I think he's a completely different D than Hamonic. I would compare him to Andersson, with Chychrun being a lot more injury prone. IMO Chychrun has the better shot, but Andersson creates more plays offensively. In fact, I think Chychrun just clocked a 107mph slapper in a Sens skill competition.

As far as Chychrun's defensive play, he generally has a good stick, a good gap, and he can use his body to separate forwards away from the puck. I think he sometimes gets caught in no-mans land when looking to generate offense, and if a forward manages to drag the puck past his stick check, then he gets passed Chychrun pretty easily.

That was not my point at all.

Stylistically these two are nothing alike.

It's the situation where a defenceman from a team that doesn't get a lot of airplay in Canada has a reputation and so called cheap termed contract. Canadian based team pays a premium price to acquire, and doesn't get what they paid a premium price for. Like DeBrincant, they will likely end up moving him for less than they paid after playing 0 playoff games. The type of move than holds teams back when you look back 7 years down the road.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

That was not my point at all.

Stylistically these two are nothing alike.

It's the situation where a defenceman from a team that doesn't get a lot of airplay in Canada has a reputation and so called cheap termed contract. Canadian based team pays a premium price to acquire, and doesn't get what they paid a premium price for. Like DeBrincant, they will likely end up moving him for less than they paid after playing 0 playoff games. The type of move than holds teams back when you look back 7 years down the road.

Yes, I see where you're coming from. If the Sens end up moving Chychrun then I'm sure you're right. That's the same situation we had with Toffoli. You get less for having less term on the contract. Personally, I think the Sens should keep Chychrun, and move Chabot.

[Toonage]

On the 32 Thoughts podcast this morning, Friedman clarified that he doesn't think Ottawa would be going for Tanev this year but that they haven't given up on the idea of getting him. That they could convince him they would be a contender.

[Jaydee]

we don't want Chychrun. He's the next PLD

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Jaydee

we don't want Chychrun. He's the next PLD

The difference is that Chychrun makes a pretty average salary and is only signed for one year after this one. The Flames are thin on D and will need some stopgaps in a rebuild. You take Chychrun and trade him for more picks next year's TDL, or maybe even on draft day this summer.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

The difference is that Chychrun makes a pretty average salary and is only signed for one year after this one. The Flames are thin on D and will need some stopgaps in a rebuild. You take Chychrun and trade him for more picks next year's TDL, or maybe even on draft day this summer.

Its pretty dire for next season. We have Weegar and Andersson. Maybe Kylington comes back.

Depending on what happens with trades etc, next season is shaping up to be ugly. This team is going to get clobbered.

[Toast_Man]

Originally Posted by Toonage

On the 32 Thoughts podcast this morning, Friedman clarified that he doesn't think Ottawa would be going for Tanev this year but that they haven't given up on the idea of getting him. That they could convince him they would be a contender.

Ya, Ottawa would make it a sign and trade to get ahead of Tanev hitting UFA this summer.

[sureLoss]

On insider trading Dreger says of late the Senators have the most interest in Tanev.

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/insider...-right~2857177

Would have to sign Tanev to an extension after acquiring him, but a lot will depend on whether Tanev wants to chase a cup.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Its pretty dire for next season. We have Weegar and Andersson. Maybe Kylington comes back.

Depending on what happens with trades etc, next season is shaping up to be ugly. This team is going to get clobbered.

They have a bit of time to fill out the blue line

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Its pretty dire for next season. We have Weegar and Andersson. Maybe Kylington comes back.

Depending on what happens with trades etc, next season is shaping up to be ugly. This team is going to get clobbered.

It's almost as if the team is.....rebuilding.

The Flames are going to have 3-6 rookies and sophomore season players in the forward group. Their getting clobbered no matter what. Hopefully clobbered enough to get a top 5 pick.

I'd like to see them move Coleman and Marstrom too, to make the clobbering complete and get a top 3 pick.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

On insider trading Dreger says of late the Senators have the most interest in Tanev.

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/insider...-right~2857177

Would have to sign Tanev to an extension after acquiring him, but a lot will depend on whether Tanev wants to chase a cup.

With Nonis on staff Dregs will have the scoops again.

[sureLoss]

LeBrun says there are other non-playoff teams beside Ottawa that have shown interest in Tanev if an extension is in play.

https://theathletic.com/5239762/2024...shared_article

It’s very interesting to hear, from both Elliotte Friedman and Darren Dreger over the past few days, that the Senators have interest in pending UFA blueliner Chris Tanev.

It is something that catches one off guard for the obvious reason: The Sens aren’t playoff-bound. But this is about beyond this season, obviously. Sens GM Steve Staios is on record saying he’s scouring the market looking for veteran, pro, leadership guys, and Tanev screams all of that.

But as Dreger pointed out during our Insider Trading segment on TSN Tuesday evening, an important question to ask is: Does Tanev want to chase a Stanley Cup? He controls part of his fate with a 10-team no-trade list. If he decides he’s focused on playoff teams, the Senators would have to wait until the summer to try on him.

I would also say this: Tanev is pretty much on almost every playoff team’s working wish list ahead of March 8. That doesn’t mean they’ll all make offers, but he’s in every front-office discussion regarding defensemen.

And it’s not just Ottawa among the non-playoff teams that has shown interest. There are other non-playoff teams looking ahead to July 1 if an extension is in play.

Of course, the Flames have yet to 100 percent decide they’re moving Tanev. But they are certainly taking calls.

[Heavy Jack]

Oh we better be moving Tanev. I true bidding frenzy for a 34 YO stay at home D would be absolutely unreal to pull off. I love Tanev but he would be wasted on this roster and needs to be utilized to kickstart the retool/rebuild.