07-06-2022, 09:06 AM
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#821
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Powerplay Quarterback
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If we trade Mangi, I hope we trade him to a bad team for their first for the next year. There are few Cs on top 10 next year.
Or trade him for a good young D prospect who may become 1st pairing.
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07-06-2022, 09:08 AM
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#822
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
Necas is 3 years younger, shoots right, and plays a premium position. I agree that mangi is better today, but not by much and the gap could easily reverse in three years.
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It’s a no brainer trade. Necas could be signed to a bridge contract if need be and still be an RFA. Mangiapane is getting paid or he’s gone. We would need to add to get it done. Hard to say Mangiapane is better right now either
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07-06-2022, 09:08 AM
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#823
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
Necas is 3 years younger, shoots right, and plays a premium position. I agree that mangi is better today, but not by much and the gap could easily reverse in three years.
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Could, sure. Lots of things could happen.
Is the premium position right wing? Because he doesn’t play centre in Carolina. Aho, Trochek, Staal, and Kotkaniemi do.
Last edited by Scroopy Noopers; 07-06-2022 at 09:11 AM.
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07-06-2022, 09:09 AM
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#824
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NewFan
If we trade Mangi, I hope we trade him to a bad team for their first for the next year. There are few Cs on top 10 next year.
Or trade him for a good young D prospect who may become 1st pairing.
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In next draft all trades for picks will be top 10 lottery protected. No chance we getting a lottery pick or top 10 for Mangiapane
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07-06-2022, 09:13 AM
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#825
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
Could, sure. Lots of things could happen.
Is the premium position right wing? Because he doesn’t play centre in Carolina. Aho, Trochek, Staal, and Kotkaniemi do.
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Righties are a premium. If you can get necas for mangiapane you do it.
6 foot 2 with skill would nice and can play center gives sutter flexibility
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07-06-2022, 09:18 AM
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#826
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Macho0978
Righties are a premium. If you can get necas for mangiapane you do it.
6 foot 2 with skill would nice and can play center gives sutter flexibility
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…. He stated a premium position. We both know it’s because he’s listed as a centre.
He doesn’t play centre currently… but yes yes he could be the next Bergeron who knows… no brainer.
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07-06-2022, 09:21 AM
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#827
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
Could, sure. Lots of things could happen.
Is the premium position right wing? Because he doesn’t play centre in Carolina. Aho, Trochek, Staal, and Kotkaniemi do.
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Where did Lindholm play in Carolina?
Slotting doesn’t work out the same for every roster.
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07-06-2022, 09:21 AM
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#828
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
…. He stated a premium position. We both know it’s because he’s listed as a centre.
He doesn’t play centre currently… but yes yes he could be the next Bergeron who knows… no brainer.
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He played centre until this season. I don't think it's unreasonable to think he'll play centre again on a different team. In fact, this could be the very reason the team is considering moving him.
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07-06-2022, 09:24 AM
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#829
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NewFan
If we trade Mangi, I hope we trade him to a bad team for their first for the next year. There are few Cs on top 10 next year.
Or trade him for a good young D prospect who may become 1st pairing.
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I think teams that are looking down the pipe of a top 10 selection next year are not going to be moving those picks. Or if they do, it is going to take a lot more than Mangiapane.
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07-06-2022, 09:25 AM
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#830
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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I just think if you guys are going to talk about something “soooooo obvious” then maybe some accuracy would help take you seriously.
Because it just kinda sounds like you like the guy by name and didn’t watch him play. But know he’s better than mangiapane..
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07-06-2022, 09:29 AM
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#831
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
I just think if you guys are going to talk about something “soooooo obvious” then maybe some accuracy would help take you seriously.
Because it just kinda sounds like you like the guy by name and didn’t watch him play. But know he’s better than mangiapane..
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Sounds like you're all pent up. Unkink your hose here. Just because a guy plays a different position for one season doesn't make him locked into said position. This debate was had here for ages over Bennett, for example. But Lindholm is another example where he was being split between wing and centre usage and felt underplayed. Necas could be another example of exactly this.
Vis a vis Mangiapane, Mangi has better play driving stats, but going back three years to when they were the same age that is not the case. You've criticized the rest of us for not putting in effort and accuracy, but have yet to levy any serious stats or points at all on why you believe Mangiapane is much better than Necas. So why should we take your thoughts seriously?
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07-06-2022, 09:31 AM
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#832
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
I just think if you guys are going to talk about something “soooooo obvious” then maybe some accuracy would help take you seriously.
Because it just kinda sounds like you like the guy by name and didn’t watch him play. But know he’s better than mangiapane..
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Look at our prospect pool. Lose Johnny and trade Mangiapane for necas and it’s such a good trade we might avoid a rebuild if Tkachuk stays
Pelletier could slot in at LW and Necas can be our #2 center. This would be the best center group we would have since the early 90s. It’s a no brainer trade
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07-06-2022, 09:46 AM
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#833
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
He played centre until this season. I don't think it's unreasonable to think he'll play centre again on a different team. In fact, this could be the very reason the team is considering moving him.
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Necas hasn't really played center for any length of time with the Hurricanes. He took a whopping 85 faceoffs last year, and 78 the year before.
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07-06-2022, 09:47 AM
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#834
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
Could, sure. Lots of things could happen.
Is the premium position right wing? Because he doesn’t play centre in Carolina. Aho, Trochek, Staal, and Kotkaniemi do.
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Speaking of Trochek, if we find ourselves with cap space for it I'd be all for going after him in free agency
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07-06-2022, 09:53 AM
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#835
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: I don't belong here
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Roughly 31 hours until we can start to hear "I have a trade to announce" again. That's the most exciting part of the draft!
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07-06-2022, 09:54 AM
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#836
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buff
Roughly 31 hours until we can start to hear "I have a trade to announce" again. That's the most exciting part of the draft!
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Can't come soon enough so there's at least actual stuff to talk about on here!
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07-06-2022, 09:55 AM
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#837
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buff
Roughly 31 hours until we can start to hear "I have a trade to announce" again. That's the most exciting part of the draft!
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eh it's usually him announcing trades that analysts/twitter have been talking about for 15 minutes
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07-06-2022, 10:16 AM
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#838
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: B.C.
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We complain that we have no secondary scoring but are suggesting we trade Mangiapane. I'm sure that will solve the problem. What????
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07-06-2022, 10:27 AM
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#839
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Saw some stuff on Twitter about the Habs and Sens talking the 7th pick.
Ottawa has interest in Anderson and Dvorak
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07-06-2022, 10:59 AM
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#840
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vinny01
saw some stuff on twitter about the habs and sens talking the 7th pick.
Ottawa has interest in anderson and dvorak
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https://twitter.com/user/status/1544713610987028482
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