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Old 07-06-2022, 09:06 AM   #821
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If we trade Mangi, I hope we trade him to a bad team for their first for the next year. There are few Cs on top 10 next year.
Or trade him for a good young D prospect who may become 1st pairing.
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Old 07-06-2022, 09:08 AM   #822
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Necas is 3 years younger, shoots right, and plays a premium position. I agree that mangi is better today, but not by much and the gap could easily reverse in three years.
It’s a no brainer trade. Necas could be signed to a bridge contract if need be and still be an RFA. Mangiapane is getting paid or he’s gone. We would need to add to get it done. Hard to say Mangiapane is better right now either
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Old 07-06-2022, 09:08 AM   #823
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Necas is 3 years younger, shoots right, and plays a premium position. I agree that mangi is better today, but not by much and the gap could easily reverse in three years.
Could, sure. Lots of things could happen.

Is the premium position right wing? Because he doesn’t play centre in Carolina. Aho, Trochek, Staal, and Kotkaniemi do.

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Old 07-06-2022, 09:09 AM   #824
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If we trade Mangi, I hope we trade him to a bad team for their first for the next year. There are few Cs on top 10 next year.
Or trade him for a good young D prospect who may become 1st pairing.
In next draft all trades for picks will be top 10 lottery protected. No chance we getting a lottery pick or top 10 for Mangiapane
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Old 07-06-2022, 09:13 AM   #825
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Could, sure. Lots of things could happen.

Is the premium position right wing? Because he doesn’t play centre in Carolina. Aho, Trochek, Staal, and Kotkaniemi do.
Righties are a premium. If you can get necas for mangiapane you do it.

6 foot 2 with skill would nice and can play center gives sutter flexibility
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Old 07-06-2022, 09:18 AM   #826
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Righties are a premium. If you can get necas for mangiapane you do it.

6 foot 2 with skill would nice and can play center gives sutter flexibility
…. He stated a premium position. We both know it’s because he’s listed as a centre.

He doesn’t play centre currently… but yes yes he could be the next Bergeron who knows… no brainer.
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Old 07-06-2022, 09:21 AM   #827
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Could, sure. Lots of things could happen.

Is the premium position right wing? Because he doesn’t play centre in Carolina. Aho, Trochek, Staal, and Kotkaniemi do.
Where did Lindholm play in Carolina?

Slotting doesn’t work out the same for every roster.
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…. He stated a premium position. We both know it’s because he’s listed as a centre.

He doesn’t play centre currently… but yes yes he could be the next Bergeron who knows… no brainer.
He played centre until this season. I don't think it's unreasonable to think he'll play centre again on a different team. In fact, this could be the very reason the team is considering moving him.
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If we trade Mangi, I hope we trade him to a bad team for their first for the next year. There are few Cs on top 10 next year.
Or trade him for a good young D prospect who may become 1st pairing.
I think teams that are looking down the pipe of a top 10 selection next year are not going to be moving those picks. Or if they do, it is going to take a lot more than Mangiapane.
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Old 07-06-2022, 09:25 AM   #830
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I just think if you guys are going to talk about something “soooooo obvious” then maybe some accuracy would help take you seriously.
Because it just kinda sounds like you like the guy by name and didn’t watch him play. But know he’s better than mangiapane..
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Old 07-06-2022, 09:29 AM   #831
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I just think if you guys are going to talk about something “soooooo obvious” then maybe some accuracy would help take you seriously.
Because it just kinda sounds like you like the guy by name and didn’t watch him play. But know he’s better than mangiapane..
Sounds like you're all pent up. Unkink your hose here. Just because a guy plays a different position for one season doesn't make him locked into said position. This debate was had here for ages over Bennett, for example. But Lindholm is another example where he was being split between wing and centre usage and felt underplayed. Necas could be another example of exactly this.
Vis a vis Mangiapane, Mangi has better play driving stats, but going back three years to when they were the same age that is not the case. You've criticized the rest of us for not putting in effort and accuracy, but have yet to levy any serious stats or points at all on why you believe Mangiapane is much better than Necas. So why should we take your thoughts seriously?
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Old 07-06-2022, 09:31 AM   #832
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I just think if you guys are going to talk about something “soooooo obvious” then maybe some accuracy would help take you seriously.
Because it just kinda sounds like you like the guy by name and didn’t watch him play. But know he’s better than mangiapane..
Look at our prospect pool. Lose Johnny and trade Mangiapane for necas and it’s such a good trade we might avoid a rebuild if Tkachuk stays

Pelletier could slot in at LW and Necas can be our #2 center. This would be the best center group we would have since the early 90s. It’s a no brainer trade
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Old 07-06-2022, 09:46 AM   #833
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He played centre until this season. I don't think it's unreasonable to think he'll play centre again on a different team. In fact, this could be the very reason the team is considering moving him.
Necas hasn't really played center for any length of time with the Hurricanes. He took a whopping 85 faceoffs last year, and 78 the year before.
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Old 07-06-2022, 09:47 AM   #834
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Could, sure. Lots of things could happen.

Is the premium position right wing? Because he doesn’t play centre in Carolina. Aho, Trochek, Staal, and Kotkaniemi do.
Speaking of Trochek, if we find ourselves with cap space for it I'd be all for going after him in free agency
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Old 07-06-2022, 09:53 AM   #835
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Roughly 31 hours until we can start to hear "I have a trade to announce" again. That's the most exciting part of the draft!
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Roughly 31 hours until we can start to hear "I have a trade to announce" again. That's the most exciting part of the draft!
Can't come soon enough so there's at least actual stuff to talk about on here!
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Roughly 31 hours until we can start to hear "I have a trade to announce" again. That's the most exciting part of the draft!
eh it's usually him announcing trades that analysts/twitter have been talking about for 15 minutes
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Old 07-06-2022, 10:16 AM   #838
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We complain that we have no secondary scoring but are suggesting we trade Mangiapane. I'm sure that will solve the problem. What????
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Old 07-06-2022, 10:27 AM   #839
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Saw some stuff on Twitter about the Habs and Sens talking the 7th pick.

Ottawa has interest in Anderson and Dvorak
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Old 07-06-2022, 10:59 AM   #840
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saw some stuff on twitter about the habs and sens talking the 7th pick.

Ottawa has interest in anderson and dvorak
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