02-21-2019, 10:50 AM
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#41
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Cancun
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Goalies are fickle, and a great goalie can go ice cold, or a bad goalie can get red hot at just the right or wrong time and it is very noticeable due to the position they play.
Last year the Preds had the Vezina winner during the regular season but he ended up being the weak link in the playoffs, yet the year before the same goalie probably would have won the Conn Smythe had the Preds beat the Pens in the finals.
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I just think BOB has every reason to catch fire. UFA who could cash in massive on a run. Guess he’s not much a want around the league tho due to your theory.
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02-21-2019, 10:50 AM
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#42
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Lifetime Suspension
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I predict no major trades for the Flames, its not Treliving's style, he tends to make big moves in the summer and is very patient. I don't remember a major trade at the deadline since he started, albeit the Flames are higher in the standings but there is certainly no need to panic, the team needs to collect more young players.
Tampa Bay is a good example, in all those years of being close, they never made a big trade until the move for Ryan McDonagh last year. If anything they traded players like Martin St. Louis and Drouin for younger assets, all this while they were still competitive and playing in the playoffs.
These comments about "blowing another year of the core" are ridiculas. Tampa wilted until Stamkos and Kutcherov were into their third contracts and kept adding players like Brayden Point.
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02-21-2019, 10:54 AM
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#43
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Cancun
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
No. With a group as young and inexperienced as the Flames you consider this year a step in the right direction, and something to build on.
This is atrociously short-sighted.
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Take off your Flames sunglasses. A 5-6 Dman. Bottom 6 forward prospect. Late 1st for a real goalie.
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02-21-2019, 10:55 AM
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#44
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Franchise Player
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I think last night was a bit of a statement win and funny how it goes now I'm back in the don't mess with chemistry camp.
We will see what Friday's game brings but can't help but think last night's result might dictate in a meaningful way management's approach towards the deadline.
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02-21-2019, 10:57 AM
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#45
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dube
Take off your Flames sunglasses. A 5-6 Dman. Bottom 6 forward prospect. Late 1st for a real goalie.
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Who?
What team in the NHL is going to give up their "real goalie" in the middle of the season?
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02-21-2019, 10:57 AM
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#46
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In the Sin Bin
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: compton
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I predict the Flames will make whatever moves or non moves that ultimately result in the Stanley Cup.
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02-21-2019, 10:59 AM
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#47
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dube
Take off your Flames sunglasses. A 5-6 Dman. Bottom 6 forward prospect. Late 1st for a real goalie.
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Rasmus will be a top 4 guy. He already gets PP time. And picks are picks. The Flames have a number of regulars from below the spot where they will be picking in the first round.
Bob has worse stats than Rittich, and not a whole lot better than Smith. And he seems like a head case. Plus the chemistry change may not be great.
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02-21-2019, 11:06 AM
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#48
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dube
Take off your Flames sunglasses. A 5-6 Dman. Bottom 6 forward prospect. Late 1st for a real goalie.
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What does this even mean?
I really don't care about how you value players and assets as much as I do about your misplaced sense of urgency. This year is already a resounding success regardless of what happens in the playoffs. I am MUCH more interested in long-term growth into a perennial contender than I am in blowing high-end prospects for a single shot now.
Besides all that, adding goalies in late February is historically something that tends not to work out very well.
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02-21-2019, 11:06 AM
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#49
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Cancun
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
Who?
What team in the NHL is going to give up their "real goalie" in the middle of the season?
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02-21-2019, 11:08 AM
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#50
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Cancun
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
What does this even mean?
I really don't care about how you value players and assets as much as I do about your misplaced sense of urgency. This year is already a resounding success regardless of what happens in the playoffs. I am MUCH more interested in long-term growth into a perennial contender than I am in blowing high-end prospects for a single shot now.
Besides all that, adding goalies in late February is historically something that tends not to work out very well.
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“High-end prospects”
You’re like the mum who thinks her son is handsome
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02-21-2019, 11:11 AM
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#51
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dube
I just think BOB has every reason to catch fire. UFA who could cash in massive on a run. Guess he’s not much a want around the league tho due to your theory.
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At the same time, the pressure of being a UFA could weigh too heavily and negatively impact his focus
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02-21-2019, 11:12 AM
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#52
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dube
“High-end prospects”
You’re like the mum who thinks her son is handsome
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Rasmus Andersson is 22-years-old and has already been played in top-four situations as a NHL rookie. EVERYONE's mom thinks he is handsome.
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02-21-2019, 11:15 AM
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#53
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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1. The player(s) the Flames will acquire:
None
2. The player[s]/asset(s) Flames will give up:
None
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02-21-2019, 11:24 AM
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#54
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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I think we see a minor trade for a dman. Think of something like Quine for his defenseman equivalent to be the #9 guy.
We may see another trade for a leader type that isn't expected to be more than the 13tn forward. That guy should not cost much of anything.
After that, the only thing I can think of would be a middle six scoring forward like when we dealt Hudler to Florida or when Edmonton traded hemsky. A guy like versteeg in his first year with us. Just a serviceable guy. If you can get someone that you can ink for term and it doesn't cost an arm and a leg, then by all means. Otherwise a decent guy that you can get for a 3rd or the like would be a ok.
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02-21-2019, 11:30 AM
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#55
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Quine isn't going anywhere.
Playoff experience, performed well in his time up here. The kind of depth you want.
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02-21-2019, 11:30 AM
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#56
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Caged Great
I think we see a minor trade for a dman. Think of something like Quine for his defenseman equivalent to be the #9 guy.
We may see another trade for a leader type that isn't expected to be more than the 13tn forward. That guy should not cost much of anything.
After that, the only thing I can think of would be a middle six scoring forward like when we dealt Hudler to Florida or when Edmonton traded hemsky. A guy like versteeg in his first year with us. Just a serviceable guy. If you can get someone that you can ink for term and it doesn't cost an arm and a leg, then by all means. Otherwise a decent guy that you can get for a 3rd or the like would be a ok.
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I could totally see another team looking at Quinn's fantastic AHL stats and being attracted to him.
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02-21-2019, 11:31 AM
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#57
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: ...the bench
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"This Post is Terrible" sighting!
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02-21-2019, 11:32 AM
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#58
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Franchise Player
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1. The player(s) the Flames will acquire:
Mats Zuccarello
2. The player[s]/asset(s) Flames will give up:
2020 2nd (condition: if Flames win 2019 Cup and Zuccarello plays 50% of games, becomes 2019 1st)
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02-21-2019, 11:38 AM
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#59
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First Line Centre
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To Kings: Kerby Rychel + CGY 2020 2nd round pick
To Flames: Jonathan Quick (retained)
Contract has 5 years remaining at $5.8 million Cap Hit but last three seasons of actual pay is 3.5, 3.0 and 2.5.
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02-21-2019, 11:41 AM
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#60
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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1. The player(s) the Flames will acquire:
Adam McQuaid
2. The player[s]/asset(s) Flames will give up:
4th round draft pick
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