02-21-2019, 08:04 AM
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#1281
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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^ He didn't do it consistently, but certainly more than he has the past 3 games so it was noticeable. It looked like someone ever so slightly reverting to old habits. Like I said, unsure if its cause for concern as he played so well the rest of the game but it was definitely noticeable.
As Resolute suggested, its likely the byproduct of having issues tracking the puck, and he did get a handle on it.
But it was there.
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02-21-2019, 09:15 AM
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#1282
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by calgarywinning
Can anyone provide an example of a goaltender with Mike Smith's stat's that has won a Stanley cup in the last two decades? I'm curious.
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Fuggettabout the last two decades...the league is going back to the 80s. The Islanders are a top team. The Flames are a top team. The Canadiens are a lowkey good team too, with a top goalie. The Oilers are also completing a dynasty.... of first overall lottery wins.
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02-21-2019, 09:24 AM
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#1283
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GranteedEV
Fuggettabout the last two decades...the league is going back to the 80s. The Islanders are a top team. The Flames are a top team. The Canadiens are a lowkey good team too, with a top goalie. The Oilers are also completing a dynasty.... of first overall lottery wins.
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But seriously, scoring is up, so the last two decades becomes less relevant.
Holtby entered the POs last year with a .907 and having lost his clear number one status.
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02-21-2019, 09:27 AM
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#1284
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Winebar Kensington
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That was the most I ever saw him help move the puck. One reason why the Flames had so much possession.
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02-21-2019, 09:31 AM
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#1285
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
But seriously, scoring is up, so the last two decades becomes less relevant.
Holtby entered the POs last year with a .907 and having lost his clear number one status.
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I am not expecting Smith to pull a Holtby but there was also MAF, who posted a pretty abysmal 3.02 GAA in 2016-17 only to get super hot in the playoffs and carry the Penguins past the first two rounds, and then when he cooled off their real #1 Murray came in and gave them stability.
Goaltending is a crap shoot. They key is for it to be somewhat competent and cheap.
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02-21-2019, 09:31 AM
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#1286
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Ontario
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A few old habits (spending too much time on his face) against the Islanders, but his puck control ended that game before the Isles had much of a chance to get going.
With Smith in net, they have to maintain possession over the blueline and the Flames held that line really well. Matched with an aggressive Smith, you saw the Islanders shooting from low-chance areas all night. I'm sure he wants goal #1 back, and #2 was a goof all around - but he was a big difference maker against the Islanders last night. Neither goals were 'bad goals' against Smith, they just look much worse when you see the resulting SV% with how low he and his defence kept the shots against.
Win and your in is likely why we're not seeing Rittich, and I think we're seeing this employed now largely to give the crease a bit of a rest. Smith getting a rest from the world crashing in on him, and Rittich getting a rest from the world resting on his shoulders.
I don't think this means anything for the team going forward besides taking a breather and starting fresh. Mike Smith is showing he can help, and bring a frustrating dynamic to the game.
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02-21-2019, 09:32 AM
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#1287
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by troutman
That was the most I ever saw him help move the puck. One reason why the Flames had so much possession.
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Toronto game early in the season. Babcock specifically cited it as a reason the Leafs lost.
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02-21-2019, 04:21 PM
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#1288
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Burnaby
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Trotts in the post game interview last night also called out how especially in the first half of the game that Smith shut down their forecheck.
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02-21-2019, 07:24 PM
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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One thing that I thought was noticeable was Smith played the puck more quickly than usual. Him being aggressive playing the puck works best when he makes a quick decision. Every second he holds onto the puck an opposition player is (usually) closing on him or the player he wants to pass to. Longer he waits, the more his options become limited. And in situations where he wants to leave it for a Dman, he can’t because the opposition is right there.
Last night he was so quick on the pass. It allowed us to transition quickly.
Obviously looked quite a bit more comfortable making saves and rebounds were under more control too.
Makes me wonder if he has more confidence playing the puck because he’s doing better in net or vice versa. He obviously likes to be involved and I think plays better when he’s not constantly making bad passes for icing and holding the puck so long we give up a chance against.
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02-22-2019, 12:58 PM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Calgary
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I think the answer to the question, why are the Flames going back to Smith when Rittich is playing well, should be answered now that Rittich has cooled off and Smith is playing better. Investing in Smith who is you best option behind Rittich is paying off now.
Is Smith the best goalie in the NHL now? No, is he better than he was? Absolutely, and what if he hits his stride going into the playoffs. It would be like trading for a #1 goalie without giving up anything other than suffering through a few losses early in the season.
Looking at the top 8 in the west, we are going to have to have one or both of our goalies, play above their level of play during the regular season. And to that end Rittich is going to have to get some starts as well.
Here’s hoping that we keep getting top notch tending from both
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02-22-2019, 09:27 PM
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#1291
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First Line Centre
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Smith has taken a lot of crap this year on this board -- and in fairness, he was pretty bad for most of the year. But shoutout to him for seemingly figuring it out. He has looked great these last four to five games
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02-22-2019, 09:29 PM
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Franchise Player
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I have to wonder if there is something building up to the trade deadline now with the Flames goaltending. It seems strange to me that Smith has 5 straight starts. Are they showcasing Smith for a move on Monday? Are they sitting Rittich so that he doesn't get hurt so they can trade him on Monday?
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02-22-2019, 09:31 PM
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#1293
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by calgarygeologist
I have to wonder if there is something building up to the trade deadline now with the Flames goaltending. It seems strange to me that Smith has 5 straight starts. Are they showcasing Smith for a move on Monday? Are they sitting Rittich so that he doesn't get hurt so they can trade him on Monday?
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Naaa just playing the hot hand
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02-22-2019, 09:32 PM
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#1294
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: STH since 2002
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Smith has been playing the best of this season the last few games, still like him the most when his not wondering or on his pads for what is only seconds but feels like an eternity.
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02-22-2019, 09:41 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by calgarygeologist
I have to wonder if there is something building up to the trade deadline now with the Flames goaltending. It seems strange to me that Smith has 5 straight starts. Are they showcasing Smith for a move on Monday? Are they sitting Rittich so that he doesn't get hurt so they can trade him on Monday?
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I've been wondering if Rittich has a minor injury for the past few weeks. With Smith playing better of late, perhaps they have the luxury of waiting for Rittich to get back to 100%. Or, they are just riding the hot hand so to speak.
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02-22-2019, 09:41 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Smith cost a goal again
But...... he played great tonight and he is slowly getting better every game
The only way is up
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02-22-2019, 09:43 PM
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#1297
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Franchise Player
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It was a good game for Smith. The only goal against was an unfortunate read on his part, but he has looked much better in the last few games.
Hope he keeps it up. I also hope Rittich draws in soon. Don't want him to be out for too long and get cold.
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02-22-2019, 09:44 PM
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#1298
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Franchise Player
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Gotta be the shoes, er skates!
keep it going!
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02-22-2019, 11:29 PM
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#1299
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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I just can't help but think that if you'd told me before the year that Smith would be 18-11-2 by late February, I'd be pretty damn happy.
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02-22-2019, 11:44 PM
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#1300
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First Line Centre
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I honestly dislike and have always disliked watching mike smith play goal.
I do not think he is talented enough to win a series let alone a cup.
I’ve said since July that this team could be special but our goaltending will be our downfall.
Hopefully I eat crow on this but smith is dog#### and always will be. He’s a ####ing league average goalie all career and now we think he and rittich are the answer... #### that. Smith threw his teammates under the bus in November when he blamed team D for the goals against. He’s a sack of #### goalie whose last good playoffs was 7!!! Years ago
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