Hart, McLeod, Dube, Foote, Formenton charged with sexual assault

[gilligans_off]

Wonder if anyone else will leave for “mental health reasons”

[foofighter15]

Am I the only one who thinks that Dube being out for mental health specifically means he might not be one of the 5 being charged? Carter Hart for example was given a leave of absence. Might be grasping at straws here but it the difference seems like it might mean something

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by Bunk

I'm sure we'll start hearing the PR spin soon about how these are "good kids". yada yada.

I'm curious to see if/how these players are going to get defended by the hockey world and hockey community, if they are indeed charged with criminal offenses.

[Hangman]

If any of these players were under 18 when this occurred they will likely not be named.

[gilligans_off]

He’s one of them. No point in trying to protect these guys.

[Cube Inmate]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Most arrests for non violent crimes are people surrendering to police - especially if not charged immediately / years later

True, but note that the alleged crime IS a violent crime.

[calf]

Originally Posted by Bunk

I'm sure we'll start hearing the PR spin soon about how these are "good kids". yada yada.

Rick Westhead will be leading the charge and the usual talking heads will be noticeably silent, again.

[stang]

Originally Posted by foofighter15

Am I the only one who thinks that Dube being out for mental health specifically means he might not be one of the 5 being charged? Carter Hart for example was given a leave of absence. Might be grasping at straws here but it the difference seems like it might mean something

Maybe but he was in the picture of the 8 at the club that dissapeared off the internet.

[stemit14]

Did the flames not release a statement yesterday claiming Dube’s leave of absence was not related to Carter Hart’s leave of absence? Would be strange of them to do that and then 24 hours later, it turns out they are directly related.

[kipperiggy]

Originally Posted by foofighter15

Am I the only one who thinks that Dube being out for mental health specifically means he might not be one of the 5 being charged? Carter Hart for example was given a leave of absence. Might be grasping at straws here but it the difference seems like it might mean something

I did have the same thought, mainly because if they're using "mental health reasons" as code for "surrendering to the police", it totally discounts everything Kylington has been through the last 2 years.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Hangman

If any of these players were under 18 when this occurred they will likely not be named.

I don't believe anyone on the 2017 team was under 18. Now there could be someone at the event but not on the team involved.

[Ashasx]

I don't think many will be defending these 5. I think they will be used as examples and will never be allowed to play again, and rightfully so.

[gilligans_off]

Doesn’t look good for the organization that’s for sure

[kipperiggy]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Did the flames not release a statement yesterday claiming Dube’s leave of absence was not related to Carter Hart’s leave of absence? Would be strange of them to do that and then 24 hours later, it turns out they are directly related.

Nothing since the 21st on the official website.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Did the flames not release a statement yesterday claiming Dube’s leave of absence was not related to Carter Hart’s leave of absence? Would be strange of them to do that and then 24 hours later, it turns out they are directly related.

Can you point us to that statement ?

I am not taking either sides , just trying to get informed

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by gilligans_off

Doesn’t look good for the organization that’s for sure

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It won't look good if they continue to support him once the investigation has concluded fault.

If there is fallout, they will act swiftly and appropriately.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Did the flames not release a statement yesterday claiming Dube’s leave of absence was not related to Carter Hart’s leave of absence? Would be strange of them to do that and then 24 hours later, it turns out they are directly related.

The Flames did not make that statement. Frank Seravalli speculated on Flames Talk that people he's heard from are saying they are unrelated.

Just rumours.

[Boreal]

Originally Posted by Bunk

I'm sure we'll start hearing the PR spin soon about how these are "good kids". yada yada.

Don’t forget the pending false equivalencies of “I did a lot of stuff I regret when I was younger too, thank god we didn’t have cell phones.”

[sureLoss]

Lots of speculation that Formenton was the ring leader in this incident.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1750182942444233009

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Hangman

If any of these players were under 18 when this occurred they will likely not be named.

Well, they were all at the bar.