Evander Kane to have phone hearing with NHL.

[dissentowner]

Evander Kane will have a hearing with the NHL for a dangerous elbow on Jets D man Pionk. Now my issue is not just with the hit, Kane was given a 2 minute minor on the play. It is time officials are held responsible. If that official believes that was a 2 minute penalty and Kane gets suspended for a dangerous hit then the official who made that call should face discipline as well.

[Jiri Hrdina]

That’s a little much. The game is fast. You can’t expect perfection

[Burner]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

That’s a little much. The game is fast. You can’t expect perfection

agreed but no minor penalty even on a play that ended up with a 7 game suspension?

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Burner

agreed but no minor penalty even on a play that ended up with a 7 game suspension?

You might suggest that Kassian’s attempted kick didn’t merit a penalty as he didn’t hit him.

The suspension make sense though because it was a dangerous move.

There have been many suspensions on non calls. Unless you give refs the ability to call penalties based on video replay, that will continue.


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[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Burner

agreed but no minor penalty even on a play that ended up with a 7 game suspension?

That would suggest the 2 officials that could make a call...didnt see it.

It happens. They cant watch everything all the time.

[OldSam]

Glad to hear this. I thought it was nasty and deserved more than a minor penalty.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

That’s a little much. The game is fast. You can’t expect perfection

Have you even watched the clip? The official who called it was watching it, that is how he called it 2 minutes. If it was a two minute penalty why is Kane getting a hearing? You sound like Ron MacLean here. This is not the Kassian incident, this was a play where the official clearly saw it. Either it was a bad hit (it was) and should have been five and a game or it was a 2 minute penalty in which case why is Kane getting a hearing?

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Have you even watched the clip? The official who called it was watching it, that is how he called it 2 minutes. If it was a two minute penalty why is Kane getting a hearing? You sound like Ron MacLean here. This is not the Kassian incident, this was a play where the official clearly saw it. Either it was a bad hit (it was) and should have been five and a game or it was a 2 minute penalty in which case why is Kane getting a hearing?

Post-game discipline shouldn't be tied to what was called during the game. I don't like the hit at all - the important thing is that the NHL is reviewing it and seemingly going to dish out some punishment.
Yes I've watched the clip.
You seem to have a real issues if anyone disagrees with you.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

That’s a little much. The game is fast. You can’t expect perfection

Can't we? For the amount of money that goes into the NHL and how much is spent in the production of each game, they could certainly put more resources into the officiating.

I was really hoping that when the NHL announced their closer ties to Vegas and the gambling industry that there would be more pressure to make the officiating 'perfect'. The way the officiating is now with the emphasis on 'game management' over calling the game based on the rule book, I certainly wouldn't feel comfortable gambling on anything in an NHL game other the 50/50.

Kane's elbow and Kassian's kick are just the most recent examples of how poor the in-game officiating is in the best league in the world and the NHL's attempt to close the gap by adding some post-game hearings only highlights the problem further. I doubt disciplining the officials would help either.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Post-game discipline shouldn't be tied to what was called during the game. I don't like the hit at all - the important thing is that the NHL is reviewing it and seemingly going to dish out some punishment.
Yes I've watched the clip.
You seem to have a real issues if anyone disagrees with you.

That was a great way to avoid the subject Jiri. The reason the game is so poorly officiated is because there are no repercussions for poor officiating. If you didn't like the hit then just say the official screwed up and clearly should have called 5 and a game, not make the excuse the game is fast when the official clearly watched the play happen. I don't have any issue with someone disagreeing but what you said made no sense at all considering the official saw the play, then blew the call. It is kind of weird to say I don't like the hit but the NHL can review it later so it doesn't matter if the officials don't do their job during the game. Except it does matter.

[Jiri Hrdina]

First - we don't know how officials are evaluated and what consequences they face.
Second - you said this: " If that official believes that was a 2 minute penalty and Kane gets suspended for a dangerous hit then the official who made that call should face discipline as well." The only way to do that is allow officials to review everything with video.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

First - we don't know how officials are evaluated and what consequences they face.
Second - you said this: " If that official believes that was a 2 minute penalty and Kane gets suspended for a dangerous hit then the official who made that call should face discipline as well." The only way to do that is allow officials to review everything with video.

Sigh. No, it isn't. Why would an official who clearly saw what everyone in the whole arena saw have to review it? It was a clear bad hit. He blew the call. Why is that so hard to admit? The problem is it is happening way to often. And we do know the officials face no consequences, only coaches or players who call them out on it. If officials had consequences we would know, the media would know, it would be out there and we wouldn't have the issues we have with officiating that we do.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

That was a great way to avoid the subject Jiri. The reason the game is so poorly officiated is because there are no repercussions for poor officiating. If you didn't like the hit then just say the official screwed up and clearly should have called 5 and a game, not make the excuse the game is fast when the official clearly watched the play happen. I don't have any issue with someone disagreeing but what you said made no sense at all considering the official saw the play, then blew the call. It is kind of weird to say I don't like the hit but the NHL can review it later so it doesn't matter if the officials don't do their job during the game. Except it does matter.

Every single major sport will review things from games and add disciplinary actions if required. Officials aren't watching things in slow motion replay, they happen at full speed...which is why video review exists to begin with.

And yes there are repercussions for doing a poor job officiating.

Just because they are not made public, other than those who are not given playoff games, doesn't mean they are not in place. They are.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Just because they are not made public, other than those who are not given playoff games, doesn't mean they are not in place. They are.

Source?

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Source?

Well its pretty common knowledge within league circles, (and its also widely believed that the discipline is far to lenient), but here is a piece Kerry Fraser wrote a few years back.


https://scoutingtherefs.com/2015/11/...d-accountable/

[tremorchrist]

Aren’t the refs in the NFL held accountable publicly?
I’ve always felt that’s the way it should be in the NHL too.

[FlamesAddiction]

I wish Kane wasn’t such jerk, because if you could separate his egotistical attitude and penchant for dirty plays, the rest of his game would match pretty much what the Flames need.

[getbak]

Virtually identical plays two games in a row.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1228692815531716608

https://twitter.com/user/status/1228701035478183943


This should have been an in-person hearing because he should be sitting for more than 5 games.

[getbak]

Three games...

https://twitter.com/user/status/1228781373407875072

... I'm sure he'll learn his lesson this time.

[GirlySports]

Kane given 3 games.