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Old 07-03-2018, 10:33 AM   #21
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One can't but help wonder if he would have been a productive player today had the Edmonton Oilers not drafted him.
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Old 07-03-2018, 10:35 AM   #22
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He may never have become a star player, who knows. But I have no doubt that the Oilers ruined him.
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There were some posters at the time who suggested that the Flames "fail for Nail".
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Old 07-03-2018, 11:07 AM   #24
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There were some posters at the time who suggested that the Flames "fail for Nail".
Yikes, he is the perfect example of the uncertainty of a draft. Draft picks are a good thing, but never a sure thing.
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Old 07-03-2018, 11:49 AM   #25
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"It's not a question of if they win the cup, it's a question of how many!"
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"It's not a question of if they win the cup, it's a question of how many!"
Still the best quote ever.

Who actually said that, anyway?
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Old 07-03-2018, 12:24 PM   #27
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Still the best quote ever.

Who actually said that, anyway?
It was Pierre Mcguire I think.
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Old 07-03-2018, 12:31 PM   #28
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Old 07-03-2018, 12:34 PM   #29
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It was Pierre Mcguire I think.


I’m thinking Ron Maclean for some reason?
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I’m thinking Ron Maclean for some reason?
Might have been. Actually I think you're right, Mcguire might have been the 'building something special' line.
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Still the best quote ever.

Who actually said that, anyway?
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It was Pierre Mcguire I think.
It might have been McGuire but I am pretty sure it was Darren Dreger.
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I’m thinking Ron Maclean for some reason?
No. Ron MacLean is famous for foolishly declaring that the Oilers were at worst four years away from winning the Stanley Cup. That was three years ago.

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Well, it wouldn't be an offseason without an Oilers Stanley Cup prediction. A little surprising the source though. Put down the bottle, Ron.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/r...ston-matthews/

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“And Connor McDavid and Darnell Nurse will fit in. Gimme a glass of wine or a beer, and I think in two years they win the Cup. That may be a little eager, but I don’t think more than four"
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It really wasn’t a great draft year period. It’s not like they chose Yakupov over quality players like the Sedins. Murray or Galchenyuk instead? Yay???
Morgan Rielly, Hampus Lindholm, Matt Dumba, Filip Forsberg, Jacob Trouba all were available. If they had Ryan Murray maybe they don't deal Hall for Larsson. A lot of their team building problems stem back from the decision to take Yakupov over a dman.

Oilers failed there. But they didn't even listen to their scouts that draft. Their scouts wanted Ryan Murray. Owner overruled them.

Katz is a clown and runs the Oilers like a clown show. They get what they deserve.
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Morgan Rielly, Hampus Lindholm, Matt Dumba, Filip Forsberg, Jacob Trouba all were available. If they had Ryan Murray maybe they don't deal Hall for Larsson. A lot of their team building problems stem back from the decision to take Yakupov over a dman.

Oilers failed there. But they didn't even listen to their scouts that draft. Their scouts wanted Ryan Murray. Owner overruled them.

Katz is a clown and runs the Oilers like a clown show. They get what they deserve.
Yeah yeah there are always gems later in the draft. Yakupov was the consensus Number 1 pick. Period.

Has anyone gone off the board with the 1st pick before? Outside the top 10? No.
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Yeah yeah there are always gems later in the draft. Yakupov was the consensus Number 1 pick. Period.

Has anyone gone off the board with the 1st pick before? Outside the top 10? No.
Ryan Murray would not in any way have been an "off the board" pick at #1. There was ongoing discussion leading up to the draft about which of the two players would be selected first, with most believing it would be Yakupov. But Murray was not that far behind him.
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Yeah yeah there are always gems later in the draft. Yakupov was the consensus Number 1 pick. Period.

Has anyone gone off the board with the 1st pick before? Outside the top 10? No.
Uhhh he was not the consensus #1 pick. Something like 9 of their 11 scouts wanted Murray.

There was quotes that CGY had Galchenyuk first.

Islanders wanted to trade their entire draft for Ryan Murray,

There’s often not as much consensus in the draft as might appear.

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The original quote (not if, but how many) was Glen Healy. That was about when they signed Schultz, after the 3 1st overalls.

Then MacLean had his comments while gushing about McDavid.
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Yakupov was the most common choice for #1, but it was far from unanimous.
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Ryan Murray would not in any way have been an "off the board" pick at #1. There was ongoing discussion leading up to the draft about which of the two players would be selected first, with most believing it would be Yakupov. But Murray was not that far behind him.
I was referring to the other 5 names he listed.
Consensus wasn’t the right word either. Central Scouting had him 1 with Murray 2. Yeah they made the wrong move. But not exactly a home run #1 either way.

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Uhhh he was not the consensus #1 pick. Something like 9 of their 11 scouts wanted Murray.

There was quotes that CGY had Galchenyuk first.

There’s often not as much consensus in the draft as might appear.
Yakupov was definitely the media's consensus #1 though.

Which, actually pushes us to the real mistake the Oilers made: They should have traded the pick instead of drafting a redundant player who eventually busted.
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Yakupov had the skills to be an NHLer. Guy just had the worst hockey sense.



He did stuff like this all the time. Coaches just couldn't trust him in any time of a hockey game that had any significance.
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