getting a little tired of the crack/meth heads

[para transit fellow]

Originally Posted by The Familia

I think they need to create some type of system where you can’t enter any trains, platforms, or C-Train stations without having first paid for a ticket. Some type of robotic gate or swing bar system. I’m not sure how many of these tweekers are actually paying for a ticket (my guess is almost none), but this system might be a way to keep many of them out. If they are going to ride the train all night passes out they better at least pay for it, otherwise they have zero right to be in any of the stations or the trains themselves.
[snip]

Discussion with Calgary transit officials (and transit protection officers) reveals that most of the "tweekers" have a valid ticket (a fare evasion ticket can apparently lead to police warrants)

Thus we could spend millions creating /retro fitting fare barriers but probably won't actually induce much change on the situation.

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by Wormius

I dunno. You see people partaking in other vices like smoking or drinking all the time, what's the difference? Should I tattle on the construction worker drinking a beer on the train after work in the summer? I find the odours from vaping and smoking cigarettes or weed more obnoxious than anything the guys using drugs do.

I think you're creating a false equivalence here.

If there's a big group of well dressed youuuuuths hanging out in a bus shelter getting blitzed out of their mind, you're damn straight I'm going to give them a wide berth and be a bit on guard.

The guy drinking a beer on the train is also in an entirely different situation: AKA he has something to lose. If he ends up in jail, it can affect his employability, which can affect his access to shelter, and his ability to support his family.

People that find themselves partaking in severe social disorder usually have absolutely nothing to lose. Their health is in shambles, they are unhoused, unemployed, and estranged from family.

If beer guy on the c-train punches me in the face, his life changes drastically. The habitual meth user taking up residence in the bus shelter? Not so much.

Was in the Bonavista Safeway today and as we were leaving, the tall skinny Manager guys goes bolting past me with the Meat Dept guy. They catch up to some chick and heated argument starts. Manager guy looked like he was so pissed he was gonna punch her but MDG grabbed his arm and pulled him back. I’m guessing (hoping) it’s policy that they don’t try to apprehend. Then one of the cashiers (Rhonda) follows her out to her car (parked right beside the north door, parallel to the building). Rhonda is filming her and the chick is backing up, I’m guessing to not show her license plate? Rhonda said that they have her on video in the store stealing.
I felt bad that I couldn’t do more, but I had my daughter with me But MAN! I would have loved to take my boot to her windshield… effing crackhead. Even in the #2 community in Bonavista????!!!!! I feel like we should have a “Bat signal” type thing to get all us Bonavistian vigilantes to bust these benzo-bozo’s.
Bonavista Safeway is freaking amazing.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Puxlut

Was in the Bonavista Safeway today and as we were leaving, the tall skinny Manager guys goes bolting past me with the Meat Dept guy. They catch up to some chick and heated argument starts. Manager guy looked like he was so pissed he was gonna punch her but MDG grabbed his arm and pulled him back. I’m guessing (hoping) it’s policy that they don’t try to apprehend. Then one of the cashiers (Rhonda) follows her out to her car (parked right beside the north door, parallel to the building). Rhonda is filming her and the chick is backing up, I’m guessing to not show her license plate? Rhonda said that they have her on video in the store stealing.
I felt bad that I couldn’t do more, but I had my daughter with me But MAN! I would have loved to take my boot to her windshield… effing crackhead. Even in the #2 community in Bonavista????!!!!! I feel like we should have a “Bat signal” type thing to get all us Bonavistian vigilantes to bust these benzo-bozo’s.
Bonavista Safeway is freaking amazing.

What leads you to believe she was a crackhead?

They're not a demographic notorious for owning and operating motor vehicles.

[JohnnyB]

There have been plenty of stories like this for the last year with how inflation has been.

Some Canadians are shoplifting high-priced food items from grocery stores as the cost of living continues climbing, with a few even taking to social media to brag.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/ca.news...232257562.html

[ResAlien]

Remember if you see someone shoplifting food: no you didn’t

[Derek Sutton]

Meat theft/ fraud has been a thing for years and years. Source: I’m a butcher by trade and was a Meat Manager with IGA —> Sobeys 20 years ago, and it goes back much further than that. Some good stories, and we were independently owned, so there were no “do not confront” policies, but grocery/ meat theft predates the current issues discussed in this thread.

[White Out 403]

I have no sympathy for that pig Galen Weston or his creep son whos busy raping Canadians.

[Regorium]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

Remember if you see someone shoplifting food: no you didn’t

If they're so desperate, they can go to a food bank. Not steal 20 prime ribs to "feed their family".

[White Out 403]

Yeah man. Let them eat Kraft Dinner and Deep and Delicious Cake.

[malcolmk14]

I watched as a meat worker at Costco put out 15-20 packages of Tenderloin steaks labelled and priced as "Stewing Beef" a while ago. Had to wonder if it was intentional. It was a fraction of the cost.

[Derek Sutton]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

Yeah man. Let them eat Kraft Dinner and Deep and Delicious Cake.

Uhm, you do realize the loses incurred from theft are trickled down to the consumers right?

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by Derek Sutton

Uhm, you do realize the loses incurred from theft are trickled down to the consumers right?

Oh god I know. Why else do you think these grocers are making record revenue profits?

I'm with you, I think they should be catching people on horseback with nets and then drag them back to the store. There, they could be placed inside iron maidens or maybe just strung up and hung from the store front as a warning to future hungry people: "not here, not today"

[cam_calderon]

Honest question, because I don't know: is there sufficient support for homeless people in Calgary? Food banks, soup kitchens, whatever they're called - are there so few of these resources that stealing could be the difference between life and death?

If the answer to that is no, I can't imagine too many people are going to be on board with people literally thieving.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Regorium

If they're so desperate, they can go to a food bank. Not steal 20 prime ribs to "feed their family".

The bigger issue with the above situation is actually the store manager needing anger management and the complete idiot that followed the person out of the store. Honestly, it’s shoplifting food. Don’t do it, but if someone is desperate enough to do it, leave them be. Not only because it’s food, but because making a habit of following desperate people out to their cars is a good recipe for getting stabbed or run over.

Originally Posted by Derek Sutton

Uhm, you do realize the loses incurred from theft are trickled down to the consumers right?

Cool, then instead of donating to the food bank we can just have the cost imbedded into the food. Kind of like getting rid of tipping culture!

[81MC]

I don’t think people stealing meat are doing it because they need food. They need money, and if you doubt that spend 10 minutes at any gas station in Marlborough.

If we’re alright with stealing food, can I steal tools if I need them for work? Or CSA boots? At least those items can be used to get somebody to go to work and earn money to buy food.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

The bigger issue with the above situation is actually the store manager needing anger management and the complete idiot that followed the person out of the store. Honestly, it’s shoplifting food. Don’t do it, but if someone is desperate enough to do it, leave them be. Not only because it’s food, but because making a habit of following desperate people out to their cars is a good recipe for getting stabbed or run over. !

Bolded the catch all reason here. Don’t challenge shop lifters, I don’t understand why anyone would do this. Especially minimum wage employees like we see all the time

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Cool, then instead of donating to the food bank we can just have the cost imbedded into the food. Kind of like getting rid of tipping culture!

Considering people only tip because of societal norms, I think a "pay-what-you-can" system could work exceptionally well at grocery stores.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Derek Sutton

Meat theft/ fraud has been a thing for years and years. Source: I’m a butcher by trade and was a Meat Manager with IGA —> Sobeys 20 years ago, and it goes back much further than that. Some good stories, and we were independently owned, so there were no “do not confront” policies, but grocery/ meat theft predates the current issues discussed in this thread.

Yeah even three years ago I was at shanwnessy Safeway to buy a full tenderloin they had on sale. Figured they were sold out when I didn't see any and asked the meat guy.

He grabbed one out of the back (it was $80, I think) and asked if that was all I needed and then walked me to the till with it. Apologized and said he's been doing that all weekend after multiple thefts leading to losing 12 tenderloins that week.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by 81MC

I don’t think people stealing meat are doing it because they need food. They need money, and if you doubt that spend 10 minutes at any gas station in Marlborough.

If we’re alright with stealing food, can I steal tools if I need them for work? Or CSA boots? At least those items can be used to get somebody to go to work and earn money to buy food.

I think the point is that stealing is obviously illegal but customers don’t need to play Batman over a steak and employees should probably leave it to the proper authorities who actually have training instead of acting like complete idiots over the theft of something which is not, personally, theirs.

Can you steal? I dunno, give it a shot and report back. Why would anywhere here care whether you steal boots?