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Old 12-15-2022, 11:30 AM   #41
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come on, it wasn't just unoriginal it was absurd, from naming the mineral 'unobtanium' (I mean at least give it a throw away line like 'the scientists call this plutouranium 789 but its so bloody rare we call it 'unobtanium' for short) to the absurdly one dimensional character's, the evil military guy, the good scientists etc, why's he evil? is it in any way likely some futuristic colonisation any of this would be allowed? if you want to draw the parallel between the history of manifest destiny and the wests resource exploitation fair enough but the lazy shallow plotline that nothing is different in the future, there isnt even the slightest nod to time and attitudes changing and an increasingly complex and morally grey future maybe being likely.

The story, the character's even the language was about as shallow as an episode of Flash Gordon from the 1930's, Cameron spent years working on the technology of the film and at most a weekend on writing the script

As someone living in Alberta lemme tell you those attitudes are still very much present. You can change some of the names, but the mechanisms of Settler Capitalism and the colonial imagination are still the same.
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Old 12-15-2022, 11:47 AM   #42
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As someone living in Alberta lemme tell you those attitudes are still very much present. You can change some of the names, but the mechanisms of Settler Capitalism and the colonial imagination are still the same.
I don't doubt that but attitudes have changed since 1870 and will continue to change, the 'plot' behind Avatar was lazy and one dimensional, childishly simplistic
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Old 12-15-2022, 12:24 PM   #43
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Well if the first movie was about colonial exploitation of the natural resources of other ethnic groups by white people this one ups the ante by having all white people exploiting the natural resource of ...
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Can we assume the climax will consist of the bad guy with a spear screaming '“From hell’s heart I stab at thee; for hate’s sake I spit my last breath at thee"?
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Old 12-15-2022, 01:08 PM   #45
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Can we assume the climax will consist of the bad guy with a spear screaming '“From hell’s heart I stab at thee; for hate’s sake I spit my last breath at thee"?

How about with Free Willy jumping the breakwater and crushing the Sky People?
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How about with Free Willy jumping the breakwater and crushing the Sky People?
and at some point the greedy company guy will look over at the evil military guy when they see a sea full of Maori like whale riders and say

'we're going to need a bigger boat!'
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hopefully there is less of a good/evil divide and you see some of both on either side

it can be aimed at children but also represent mankind with some accuracy

if there are 4 more sequels planned they'll to make the story bigger and add a few more plot threads in there as well

it can't just be alien race and humans squaring off over something different each movie

or maybe I vastly overestimate Cameron and that's exactly what he has planned

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hopefully there is less of a good/evil divide and you see some of both on either side

it can be aimed at children but also represent mankind with some accuracy

if there are 4 more sequels planned they'll to make the story bigger and add a few more plot threads in there as well

it can't just be alien race and humans squaring off over something different each movie


or maybe I vastly overestimate Cameron and that's exactly what he has planned
Oh it can...and it will!

Wait until 'Avatar 17: The Plastic Straw Equilibrium'
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hopefully there is less of a good/evil divide and you see some of both on either side

it can be aimed at children but also represent mankind with some accuracy

if there are 4 more sequels planned they'll to make the story bigger and add a few more plot threads in there as well

it can't just be alien race and humans squaring off over something different each movie

or maybe I vastly overestimate Cameron and that's exactly what he has planned
by the fourth film they will be mining slightlyrareium
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'unobtanium' was some truly preposterous writing

earth's scientists would never..

sincerely hope lessons were learned from the first, because I'm taking a 3+ hour gamble on it this weekend
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'unobtanium' was some truly preposterous writing

earth's scientists would never..

sincerely hope lessons were learned from the first, because I'm taking a 3+ hour gamble on it this weekend
What we need is a mash-up Universe film between Avatar and Idiocracy.

"We need unobtanium and we're gonna get it! Everyone grab your AR-15s and Brawndo! Get those electrolytes pumping!! Its what plants CRAVE!!!"
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Avatar was the biggest movie ever?

That's news to me.
It's hard to argue that in terms of box office.

It blew away the all time world wide and domestic records at the time. It is still the biggest world wide, and kept the domestic title for 6 years.

Gone with the Wind is the only other movie that could make a case if you adjust for inflation, but it's still probably way behind Avatar world wide. The Force Awakens would be the only other movie in the conversation since it has the domestic title, but is way behind world wide.
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this fun and oddly specific review just intensifies the intrigue!

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Angry sarcastic reviews are the best reviews. I love it when critics act like it was a personal insult that they got paid to sit through a movie they didn’t like. As if it’s an affront to their individual freedoms.
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Ok so I'm not saying Cameron's predictable but I made the joke about Maori's riding whales before I had seen a single still of the film, I open up your link and what do I see, the blue people have now all got Maori face tattoos, this film is about the same Maori's I made an off hand joke about three hours ago!!!
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For better or worse Cameron has entered is Lucas Prequels Era

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I heard something about the middle third playing like an ocean documentary

honestly with the visuals I think I'll enjoy that more than the blue people stuff

sounds like a James Cameron smorgasbord

hey, might as well throw all the poop at the wall for that RT score. enough just might stick
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