[Rumour] Flames will name captain this season

[Royle9]

All I know is I don't want a "silent" leader who supposedly shows it in the room or by his worth ethic etc.

I think this team needs a vocal/give a #### meter level 200% leader who talks the talk but also walks the walk both mentally and physically.

Honestly as sad as it may seem I think Lucic would make a perfect captain from that perspective, the guy gave more ####s last season than the entire team combined, wasn't scared to call anyone out and gave it his all night after night.

[Stanley]

Originally Posted by Royle9

All I know is I don't want a "silent" leader who supposedly shows it in the room or by his worth ethic etc.

I think this team needs a vocal/give a #### meter level 200% leader who talks the talk but also walks the walk both mentally and physically.

Honestly as sad as it may seem I think Lucic would make a perfect captain from that perspective, the guy gave more ####s last season than the entire team combined, wasn't scared to call anyone out and gave it his all night after night.

While I don't disagree with the need for a vocal leader, I'd cringe every time Looch turns it over in our slot and say to myself "eeesh this is our captain" lol

Is Tanev a vocal guy?

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Those big wins over Edmonton where he got Kassian off his game and lead to power plays that won the Flames those games. In 2018/19 that win was a launch pad game for their amazing season. The Flames were average but after that game went on a complete tear.

Your memory is off. They handily won the game in which he hit Kassian, which was on January 11, 2020, not in the 2018-19 season. The Flames then lost 3 of 4 games and IMO Kassian and the media were in his head until the next Oiler game on the 29th and he had to fight. The Flames did win that game in a shootout. But then they proceeded to lose 3 in a row, including an 8-3 rout by the Oilers the very next game. Then they played about .500 hockey until the play in.

[Dexter403]

Originally Posted by Royle9

All I know is I don't want a "silent" leader who supposedly shows it in the room or by his worth ethic etc.

I think this team needs a vocal/give a #### meter level 200% leader who talks the talk but also walks the walk both mentally and physically.

Honestly as sad as it may seem I think Lucic would make a perfect captain from that perspective, the guy gave more ####s last season than the entire team combined, wasn't scared to call anyone out and gave it his all night after night.

Couldn't agree more. Lucic is the captain this team needs. Honorable mention to Tanev.

[Erick Estrada]

I don't have a horse in the race as in addition to play on the ice I feel you need to be in the locker room to really gauge what players offer the intangibles required to be a good captain. If I had to guess maybe Backlund.

[Timbo]

For those in favour of Lucic being Captain, I recall when it was announced that he was traded to Calgary that he was very relieved to be playing with a strong leader in Gio and he felt uncomfortable and pressured in Edmonton to having to “provide” leadership.

I think he prefers to fly under the radar and let his presence and leadership form organically rather than by appointment and expectations.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Knightslayer

Haven't looked at it at all but my memory is the opposite. That game was the downfall of Tkachuk and the Flames that season. I remember the media jumping all over Tkachuk and he was off his game for a while

You will have to check your memory. The game in November 2018 when Kassian snapped look at the Flames record after and look at the Oilers. The teams went in opposite directions.

We have heard Gulutzan, Peters, and Ward all describe how Tkachuk would drag his teammates into the battle. Until last season he was the clear cut guaranteed next captain of the team.

I get that last season caused many to pause those thoughts but I still feel like of the current group he is the only guy who makes sense to be captain.

[Stanley]

Originally Posted by Timbo

For those in favour of Lucic being Captain, I recall when it was announced that he was traded to Calgary that he was very relieved to be playing with a strong leader in Gio and he felt uncomfortable and pressured in Edmonton to having to “provide” leadership.

I think he prefers to fly under the radar and let his presence and leadership form organically rather than by appointment and expectations.

Good point. Although keep in mind at that time he was expected to lead a complete dumpster fire

[Dexter403]

Originally Posted by Timbo

For those in favour of Lucic being Captain, I recall when it was announced that he was traded to Calgary that he was very relieved to be playing with a strong leader in Gio and he felt uncomfortable and pressured in Edmonton to having to “provide” leadership.

I think he prefers to fly under the radar and let his presence and leadership form organically rather than by appointment and expectations.

Not something I remembered but very fair point. However the way he handled the end of the season becoming vocal and talking about mental toughness makes me think things may have changed for him. When he came to Calgary he was also silently considering retiring until he found new life playing with young linemates. I think it is fair to speculate that his views on leadership may have changed as well. Ultimately he is the only guy who knows but his words and actions on the ice lead me to believe he will take on some sort of leadership role regardless of a letter on his sweater.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

You will have to check your memory. The game in November 2018 when Kassian snapped look at the Flames record after and look at the Oilers. The teams went in opposite directions.

We have heard Gulutzan, Peters, and Ward all describe how Tkachuk would drag his teammates into the battle. Until last season he was the clear cut guaranteed next captain of the team.

I get that last season caused many to pause those thoughts but I still feel like of the current group he is the only guy who makes sense to be captain.

The game you are thinking of was January 11 2020. There was a November 2018 game in which Draisaitl kept hitting a lot and then Tkachuk wouldn’t fight Kassian. But that wasn’t the famous game in which Kassian lost it.

[Timbo]

Originally Posted by Dexter403

Not something I remembered but very fair point. However the way he handled the end of the season becoming vocal and talking about mental toughness makes me think things may have changed for him. When he came to Calgary he was also silently considering retiring until he found new life playing with young linemates. I think it is fair to speculate that his views on leadership may have changed as well. Ultimately he is the only guy who knows but his words and actions on the ice lead me to believe he will take on some sort of leadership role regardless of a letter on his sweater.

Yes entirely possible. I have no qualms in Lucic being Captain if he is 100% comfortable in the role and does not feel burdened by an official title.

[Mr.Coffee]

I think Lucic would be a great captain.

[Dexter403]

Originally Posted by Timbo

Yes entirely possible. I have no qualms in Lucic being Captain if he is 100% comfortable in the role and does not feel burdened by an official title.

This situation reminds me of the movie Gladiator when Maximus told Marcus Aurelius he did not want to become the leader of Rome and Aurelius told him this is why it must be you.

[GioforPM]

I think it’s quite a different situation to be asked to provide leadership on a team where the other supposed leaders are McDavid, Draisaitl, Kassian, Nurse, etc versus being an actual captain on a team where there’s some leadership support in Lindholm, Backlund, Tanev, Monahan, etc.

[Gaskal]

I'd vote Looch but only if he actually wants the role.

Been a while since we've had a captain who was respected as having excellent face puncher skills... haha

[Jiri Hrdina]

Looch will continue to be a leader even if he doesn't have a letter.

[Monahammer]

I would give it to johnny or tkachuk with a contract extension and give them a shot to be the face of the franchise and uncontested leader.

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Fine I’m back in. I cannot think of a single hockey game of importance that Tkachuk dragged his team through. Not a leader.

Did Giordano? Because he is known as great captain and didn't ever really drag the team to success in the playoffs or key games either. All of the Flames best players have had that problem.

Tkachuk needs to be better for sure, but he brings things that I want to see more of from the team. He hates losing, he gets emotionally involved in the game (which I think forces his teammates to), he defends his teammates when needed (in game and in the media). He just has a general GAF meter that is way higher than what we are used to seeing in this organization. Sure sometimes he needs to apply some more maturity to situations but he's young and will learn. And I still believe he's going to be a player that will score key goals and make big plays when it matters for this team.

Frankly I think the Flames need to move away from what has been the traditional captaincy model, and that's not disrespect to Giordano or even going back to Iginla who I think was the GOAT captain for this team. The Flames don't need nice guys that keep things comfortable anymore, its time to demand a little more. And if Tkachuk rubs the opposition the wrong way, you better join him instead of complaining that he needs to tone it down. It's time for a culture change.

[Jiri Hrdina]

I would never tie captaincy to contract negotiations.

[Knightslayer]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

You will have to check your memory. The game in November 2018 when Kassian snapped look at the Flames record after and look at the Oilers. The teams went in opposite directions.

We have heard Gulutzan, Peters, and Ward all describe how Tkachuk would drag his teammates into the battle. Until last season he was the clear cut guaranteed next captain of the team.

I get that last season caused many to pause those thoughts but I still feel like of the current group he is the only guy who makes sense to be captain.

Sorry that isn't the game you mentioned in the post I replied to. Think your dates are off. Like someone else mentioned Flames did flounder after that game.