06-28-2017, 03:39 PM
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
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Originally Posted by Corral
The NHL wants Connor McDavid to succeed in his prime years and will want to cash in on the story ... make no mistake about it - if they don't figure it out themselves, the Oilers will be shown how to get out of any cap troubles they face so they can ice a contending team. Your crazy if you think the league doesn't want to make as much money as possible from McD - and that require him to be showcased in the stanley cup finals as much as possible. Sad but true.
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You're projecting.
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06-28-2017, 03:42 PM
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#302
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Originally Posted by Corral
The NHL wants Connor McDavid to succeed in his prime years and will want to cash in on the story ... make no mistake about it - if they don't figure it out themselves, the Oilers will be shown how to get out of any cap troubles they face so they can ice a contending team. Your crazy if you think the league doesn't want to make as much money as possible from McD - and that require him to be showcased in the stanley cup finals as much as possible. Sad but true.
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If the NHL wanted to make as much money from Connor, they would have grabbed Edmonton's ping pong ball. Yelled "Nope" and slapped a Toronto or New York Ranger sticker on it and slam dunked it back into the machine in a Darrly Dawkins like manner
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06-28-2017, 03:44 PM
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#303
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan
They just picked up Drouin and they already have Pacioretty. A line of Drouin-Draisaitl-Pacioretty could be an elite #1 line that would help an offense starved team become a more serious threat.
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They also have to re-sign Radulov.
Drouin is still a 2nd line LW now (and Pacioretty is also a LW). So you'd be more likely to have Patch / Drai / Radulov and Drouin / Galch / ???
They also need to save some cap space for Price.
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06-28-2017, 03:44 PM
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#304
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary, AB
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Not only is the McDavid salary a lot, it pulls Draisaitl's right up along with it. Paying two guys as elite players when only one of them is actually elite. The real value Edmonton commits to #97 won't be known until Draisatl's contract numbers are known. Anything north of 7 per season you can attribute directly to Connor McDavid.
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06-28-2017, 03:47 PM
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#305
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Franchise Player
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Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
They also have to re-sign Radulov.
Drouin is still a 2nd line LW now (and Pacioretty is also a LW). So you'd be more likely to have Patch / Drai / Radulov and Drouin / Galch / ???
They also need to save some cap space for Price.
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Unless, as rumoured, Price simply wants out. Then they are in rebuild mode with Draisaitl as the centrepiece.
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06-28-2017, 03:49 PM
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#306
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
They also have to re-sign Radulov.
Drouin is still a 2nd line LW now (and Pacioretty is also a LW). So you'd be more likely to have Patch / Drai / Radulov and Drouin / Galch / ???
They also need to save some cap space for Price.
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They don't HAVE to re-sign Radulov. They might, but considering what he's looking for, Montreal might not be his final destination.
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06-28-2017, 03:49 PM
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#307
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jg13
McDavid: 13.25
Draisaitl: 9
Russell: 4
Lucic 7
= 47.4% of the cap dedicated to 4 players.
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and two of them suck
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06-28-2017, 03:55 PM
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#308
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
Honestly, I don't expect anyone to offer-sheet Draisaitl.
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The threat of an offer sheet gets him paid though...Oilers could probably get it done now at 8M....which is crazy for a player with one good season
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06-28-2017, 03:58 PM
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#309
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: The Bay Area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Corral
The NHL wants Connor McDavid to succeed in his prime years and will want to cash in on the story ... make no mistake about it - if they don't figure it out themselves, the Oilers will be shown how to get out of any cap troubles they face so they can ice a contending team. Your crazy if you think the league doesn't want to make as much money as possible from McD - and that require him to be showcased in the stanley cup finals as much as possible. Sad but true.
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Whatever helps you sleep at night.
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06-28-2017, 04:17 PM
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#310
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Franchise Player
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So my understanding of offer sheets is that a team has to send back draft picks, they must be the teams own draft picks (not traded for), and they must occur in the draft years immediately following the offer sheet. So there are teams that will not be able to put out an offer sheet even if they wanted to if they do not have the required draft picks to send back. Or at least that is my understanding of how an offer sheet works. Combine that with a team's cap situation and I have to think there are not many teams in a position to offer one to Draisaitl.
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06-28-2017, 04:20 PM
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#311
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Powerplay Quarterback
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McDavid signs extension: 8 years, 13.25M per.
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Originally Posted by Lubicon
So my understanding of offer sheets is that a team has to send back draft picks, they must be the teams own draft picks (not traded for), and they must occur in the draft years immediately following the offer sheet. So there are teams that will not be able to put out an offer sheet even if they wanted to if they do not have the required draft picks to send back. Or at least that is my understanding of how an offer sheet works. Combine that with a team's cap situation and I have to think there are not many teams in a position to offer one to Draisaitl.
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This is correct, but there has been speculation on this site that a teams with the required picks could benefit from such a move (NSH, NYI, VGK, MTL being names I've seen thrown around the most).
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06-28-2017, 04:24 PM
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#312
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: City by the Bay
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lubicon
So my understanding of offer sheets is that a team has to send back draft picks, they must be the teams own draft picks (not traded for), and they must occur in the draft years immediately following the offer sheet. So there are teams that will not be able to put out an offer sheet even if they wanted to if they do not have the required draft picks to send back. Or at least that is my understanding of how an offer sheet works. Combine that with a team's cap situation and I have to think there are not many teams in a position to offer one to Draisaitl.
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Very true. From my quick count, and depending on what draft pick compensation is required, Nashville, Montreal, Vegas have both space and picks. I'm sure there are plenty more but those are all likely candidates.
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06-28-2017, 04:25 PM
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#313
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan
They don't HAVE to re-sign Radulov. They might, but considering what he's looking for, Montreal might not be his final destination.
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Of course, but you said they had 21M in cap space with only Galchenyuk to re-sign. That's not true, they also have Radulov, whether they choose to re-sign him or not. If they don't, they need to find a new top 6 RW somewhere.
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06-28-2017, 04:31 PM
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#314
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lubicon
So my understanding of offer sheets is that a team has to send back draft picks, they must be the teams own draft picks (not traded for), and they must occur in the draft years immediately following the offer sheet. So there are teams that will not be able to put out an offer sheet even if they wanted to if they do not have the required draft picks to send back. Or at least that is my understanding of how an offer sheet works. Combine that with a team's cap situation and I have to think there are not many teams in a position to offer one to Draisaitl.
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No, but there are some, and ones who could use him, too. Like Montreal. Or Vegas. Carolina could do it. The Canucks could (and it would sting Edmonton either way). NYR can do it.
The Sharks could offer but only at the top tier (over $9.8M). That said, if they are losing Joe and Marleau, they could use a guy like Draisaitl, and will have money. Plus, the four first rounders they have might not be as high as a lot of the others.
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06-28-2017, 04:44 PM
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#315
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FWIW, less than the percentage of cap hit Iggy got on his first contract out of the initial lock out when the salary cap came into the NHL.
$7M/39=17.95%
$13.25/75=17.67%
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06-28-2017, 04:53 PM
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Of course, but you said they had 21M in cap space with only Galchenyuk to re-sign. That's not true, they also have Radulov, whether they choose to re-sign him or not. If they don't, they need to find a new top 6 RW somewhere.
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Radulov is looking for something like 6 million per for 6 years at the age of 30. I'm pretty sure that if Montreal could get their hands on Draisaitl something they've been coveting for a long time, that their boardroom comments about Radulov would be, hey f that guy, burn his number and we'll find something else.
And then they'd drive over to Radulov's house and basically
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06-28-2017, 05:00 PM
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#317
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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This contract is a steal for the Oilers. McDavid had all the leverage and could have had a lot more.
I don't see Draisaitl getting much more than Tarasenko
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06-28-2017, 05:04 PM
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#318
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2001
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McDavid signs extension: 8 years, 13.25M per.
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Originally Posted by Otto-matic
Ryan RishaugVerified account @TSNRyanRishaug 3m3 minutes ago
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My sense is Draisaitl ask on an 8 year deal could push 9m per season. Oilers I'd guess would think 7-8 range based on comps
Oh please please please be true.
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Rishaugh seems to be plugged in with Oilers mgmt right now. He apparently reported that Russel's contract would be around 4 million and that the Oilers were really interested in Yamamoto. I fully expect to see the number in the high 7, low 8 million
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06-28-2017, 05:05 PM
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#319
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It's market value...it's certainly not a steal though
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06-28-2017, 05:06 PM
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#320
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1qqaaz
This contract is a steal for the Oilers. McDavid had all the leverage and could have had a lot more.
I don't see Draisaitl getting much more than Tarasenko
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I think "steal" is an exaggeration. It is good for Edmonton and closer to the lower end of McDavid's value, but hardly a bargain. It's a good deal; not everything must be either "amazing!" or "terrible!"
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