Right now, the best thing that can happen down here is that the republican party gets completely blown out in November. The country was built on having two healthy parties that would compromise down the middle.
One party rule isn't good long term (its unfortunately needed now) and the Democrats have done a good job of reaching to those anti-trump voter and making them felt heard. Hopefully the MAGA crazy goes and dies and the adults like Adam Kinzinger, Liz Cheney and other real republicans who sacrificed their political careers to stand up for the truth and what is right. Losing John McCain when we did was such a massive loss for this country especially when he was standing up to MAGA, casting his deciding "no" vote to repeal the affordable care act.
In short, I hope they have to break it down and build it back to something respectable. We may not agree on all issues (I don't agree 100% of the time with Democrats) but it's like the republicans right now don't even live on the same planet......
Today I learned RFK (Sr.) had 11 kids in a 17 year span! That has no relation to anything politics, but man... times have changed. Edit again... maybe I'll skip the unprovable assumptions.
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Right now, the best thing that can happen down here is that the republican party gets completely blown out in November. The country was built on having two healthy parties that would compromise down the middle.
One party rule isn't good long term (its unfortunately needed now) and the Democrats have done a good job of reaching to those anti-trump voter and making them felt heard. Hopefully the MAGA crazy goes and dies and the adults like Adam Kinzinger, Liz Cheney and other real republicans who sacrificed their political careers to stand up for the truth and what is right. Losing John McCain when we did was such a massive loss for this country especially when he was standing up to MAGA, casting his deciding "no" vote to repeal the affordable care act.
In short, I hope they have to break it down and build it back to something respectable. We may not agree on all issues (I don't agree 100% of the time with Democrats) but it's like the republicans right now don't even live on the same planet......
Problem with that is the house and Senate are still full of the biggest ####faces imaginable, and will do whatever it takes to keep the dumb train on track. And let's face it, a large number of Republican voters support the transition to Gilead, so why would they want change? I expect them to double down on dumb.
PLEASE stop trying to apply your Canadian lens to American politics. It does not apply. For example, the whole Palestine/Israel issue is one very few Americans are going to budge on. Yes, what Israel is doing is atrocious, and people can understand that, but support for Israel is unwavering and almost every American is going to view this current issue as an extension of 9/11. The response from Israel is justified because of what Hamas did. The Palestinian people don't matter anymore than the Afghanis or Iraqis did after 9/11. They are caught in the middle and no one really cares about them. What is a complex issue is distilled down to team sports and the Israelis are on Team America. Just like Flames fans rallied around Bertuzzi when he became a member of our tribe, Americans will continue to rally around Israel regardless of what they do. All of the leftist pissing and moaning on this issue is not going to change a damn thing. You don't like the way the Democrats are handling it, the alternative is the Republicans who will fully support Israel in their efforts to commit genocide of the Palestinian people, and then a nuclear engagement with Iran where millions of innocents die on both sides. IN the Canadian sense you have the flexibility to support parties based on the nuance of their position for given issues. In American politics it is a binary choice, and you have to support which side can best manage the issue. You may not completely agree with their platform, but the other choice is more detrimental to your hopes on the issue.
Here he goes again.
"I LIVE IN ARIZONA. THAT MAKES ME THE MOST QUALIFIED PERSON HERE TO SPEAK ON AMERICAN POLITICS, AND I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THAT BETTER THINGS AREN'T POSSIBLE! SO DON'T EVEN TRY!"
And people call me terminally joyless.
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'Unhinged': Trump plan for J6 fundraiser freaks out conservative columnist
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LLongtime conservative columnist Jim Geraghty expressed both shock and dismay over a report that a fundraiser for Jan. 6 insurrectionists has been approved and booked at former President Donald Trump's Bedminster, NJ, club just weeks before voters go to the polls in November.
The National Review writer, who has been skeptical of the Trump's re-election bid, wrote on Friday that he can see no good in allowing the fundraiser going forward because it could lead the former president to once again remind voters of the attack on the Capitol just before a close election.
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He then noted that Trump's law-and-order stance goes out the window when it comes to the Jan. 6 rioters, complaining the former president "transforms into a bleeding heart liberal, focused on the rights of the accused. There’s no consistency, no principle, just pure situational ethics."
With that said, he wrote, "Someone in Trump-world really thought it would be a good idea to host a fundraiser for January 6 defenders roughly two months before Election Day, a scenario that is extremely likely to spur Trump to give another one of his unhinged, full-throated defenses of everyone arrested, indicted, and convicted that day."
"You can’t save people who keep sticking the fork in the electrical socket, just to prove they can," he lamented
Problem with that is the house and Senate are still full of the biggest ####faces imaginable, and will do whatever it takes to keep the dumb train on track. And let's face it, a large number of Republican voters support the transition to Gilead, so why would they want change? I expect them to double down on dumb.
Yes, as long as the Lauren Boebert/Matt Gaetz/MTG/Gym Jordan/James Comers get elected. I realize this is likely a pipe dream. My dad won't change his trump loving mind even when presented with facts. He's pretty much lost all respect of his family due to his abhorrent beliefs.
I've asked him to show me in the bible where abortion is referenced, I'm still waiting.......
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In the interest of clearing up possible misinformation those photos of Trump supporters carrying JD Vance jizz cups are probably fake, or were created by a troll to make them look bad, not that it takes much to do that.
Right now, the best thing that can happen down here is that the republican party gets completely blown out in November. The country was built on having two healthy parties that would compromise down the middle.
One party rule isn't good long term (its unfortunately needed now) and the Democrats have done a good job of reaching to those anti-trump voter and making them felt heard. Hopefully the MAGA crazy goes and dies and the adults like Adam Kinzinger, Liz Cheney and other real republicans who sacrificed their political careers to stand up for the truth and what is right. Losing John McCain when we did was such a massive loss for this country especially when he was standing up to MAGA, casting his deciding "no" vote to repeal the affordable care act.
In short, I hope they have to break it down and build it back to something respectable. We may not agree on all issues (I don't agree 100% of the time with Democrats) but it's like the republicans right now don't even live on the same planet......
I wouldn't associate people who wanted to repeal the ACA with MAGA, but yeah, it's shocking how Trump seemed to change the way people think over a few months in 2015. There doesn't seem to be anywhere to go for limited government, low tax, free trade, live and let live voters to go anymore. His brand and ideology are both pretty weird, promoting trade protectionism and demonizing immigration after all Bush and Reagan did to build it up.
Trump himself wants his own ACA ("repeal and replace") when the movement when John McCain was with us was a full repeal, and nothing else would be acceptable. I'm sure he'd be quite happy for it to be referred to colloquially as Trumpcare instead of Obamacare, regardless of its substantive merits.
"I LIVE IN ARIZONA. THAT MAKES ME THE MOST QUALIFIED PERSON HERE TO SPEAK ON AMERICAN POLITICS, AND I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THAT BETTER THINGS AREN'T POSSIBLE! SO DON'T EVEN TRY!"
And people call me terminally joyless.
Pretty pathetic response, but that is par for the course for you. Zero substance and not even remotely addressing the content of the post. But let me return the favor and put some words in your mouth.
"I'm a sniveling whiny leftist from Victoria CANADA, who is never happy with anything that doesn't meet my judgmental perspective. I don't understand how American politics works, nor have any ability to change a damn thing, but I'm more than willing to tell everyone who will listen what Americans should do, and frame it through my leftist CANADIAN point of view. And when someone challenges me on it, I'll use a strawman argument of wanting better things, regardless of how those things clash with American ideals and systems."
Again, tell me where I was wrong in anything I said in my post? If you're going to complain about #### and claim insights, shouldn't you make those statements with the American perspective and systems in mind? Shouldn't you consider the values are norms of the country you're trying to criticize? The Canadian perspective means nothing down here. You can comment all you want, just do so with some recognition and understanding of how Americans think and how the American political system works.
Pretty pathetic response, but that is par for the course for you. Zero substance and not even remotely addressing the content of the post. But let me return the favor and put some words in your mouth.
"I'm a sniveling whiny leftist from Victoria CANADA, who is never happy with anything that doesn't meet my judgmental perspective. I don't understand how American politics works, nor have any ability to change a damn thing, but I'm more than willing to tell everyone who will listen what Americans should do, and frame it through my leftist CANADIAN point of view. And when someone challenges me on it, I'll use a strawman argument of wanting better things, regardless of how those things clash with American ideals and systems."
Again, tell me where I was wrong in anything I said in my post? If you're going to complain about #### and claim insights, shouldn't you make those statements with the American perspective and systems in mind? Shouldn't you consider the values are norms of the country you're trying to criticize? The Canadian perspective means nothing down here. You can comment all you want, just do so with some recognition and understanding of how Americans think and how the American political system works.
"I LIVE IN ARIZONA. THAT MAKES ME THE MOST QUALIFIED PERSON HERE TO SPEAK ON AMERICAN POLITICS, AND I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THAT BETTER THINGS AREN'T POSSIBLE! SO DON'T EVEN TRY!"
And people call me terminally joyless.
That's not what he's saying in the post you quoted.
He is making a valid point about the reality of the Israel situation in the USA.
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"I LIVE IN ARIZONA. THAT MAKES ME THE MOST QUALIFIED PERSON HERE TO SPEAK ON AMERICAN POLITICS, AND I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THAT BETTER THINGS AREN'T POSSIBLE! SO DON'T EVEN TRY!"
And people call me terminally joyless.
He could live in the Amazon Jungle and he wouldn't be wrong about what most Americans think about the Hamas/Israel war.
I would have thought it was freaking obvious just by watching the last 20 or 30 years of Hollywood movies, arabs are all the same and they are the bad guys to the US, nothing on God's sweet earth is going to make Americans give a toss about Gaza or Yemen or any other Arab conflict, the average american at best doesn't care, at worst thinks a dead arab is a good arab
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He could live in the Amazon Jungle and he wouldn't be wrong about what most Americans think about the Hamas/Israel war.
Americans hold some real contradictory ideals, but it is part of being an American and the fabric of the nation. I've been lucky enough to have lived in four states, and visited all but three, over my 30 years since becoming a naturalized citizen. The nation's people are as varied in culture as the geography of the country, but they all share a certain value that you only get if you are born here - a crazy belief and confidence that the United States is the greatest country to every exist and is all but infallible in what it does. People that come from elsewhere don't "have this gene" and never will, which makes those of us who became Americans by choice rather than by birthright, somewhat detached from the lunacy. I firmly believe that this is what drives the anti-immigration feelings that so many Americans share, regardless of geography or party affiliation.
Another part of being American that people from other countries just don't get is the loyalty they show to their team and their communities. Once they are entrenched in a community, they rarely turn their backs on that community even if it means compromising their principles. It is downright bizarre to watch at times, but it is uniquely American because of the absolute dedication they show. The only way I can explain it to Canadians is to look at how Leafs and Oiler fans support their teams, then multiply it by 1,000 times. The fanaticism they display for their cause is unwavering. And they do this in every aspect of their lives, not just the sports teams they support, but everything including their politics. It truly takes an act of God to change minds, even if all the proof in the world is laid at their feet.
The toughest part for non-Americans to grasp about the United States is its politics. The form of representational democracy employed here is very messy and complex. The crazy methods they use to try and manufacture balance does as much damage as it does good. The power the states have make broad federal controls difficult to enact, and then the power structures which vary from state-to-state make that much more labyrinthine. Lost in the discussion is the power of traditionally non-politically affiliated positions at the county and municipal levels, which greatly influence how the regional politics operate. That is without diving into the powers of the executive, judicial, and legislative powers at each level or how the political or operational components of government check or influence each other. Because there are 50 very different approaches to all of this it makes politics extremely difficult to understand or engage in effectively, which is why most Americans have become reticent to engage in politics or vote in elections outside of the presidential election every four years. The manufactured complexity within the system makes it very difficult for the average person living in it to understand it let alone those who live in other countries and try to understand the machinations through their national lens.
