Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[getbak]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1886529228193022429


Trudeau saves Canada!!!

...By agreeing to do things we're either already doing or said we were going to do.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by getbak

https://twitter.com/user/status/1886529228193022429


Trudeau saves Canada!!!

...By agreeing to do things we're either already doing or said we were going to do.

Hey now, Canada agreed to an whole extra $200M and some made up job titles too!

Genius Trump bluffed his way to great success!!!

All it cost him was basically any positive sentiment in Canada, the ire of basically every American businesses association, and a diminishing reliance on US trade.

Worth it!

[Voodooman]

I think it speaks volumes that basically all provinces were in alignment with the federal government, and taking steps to counter the US tariff threat...with the exception of our dipkyit premier and the possibly even dumber one next door in SK. They both advocated basically bending over to Donald's will and doing whatever he wanted.

My estimation of Doug Ford has increased leaps and bounds through this. He's obviously a right wing Conservative, but at least has the common sense to work across partisan lines and do what's best for not only his province, but Canada overall. I think if he runs for PM, he wins it running away.

And while you could have said that about PP two weeks ago, as many have mentioned, the landscape has changed. He's still likely to win the upcoming election, but it's not as open and shut of a case as it was. You could see the Liberals hanging on to power for a little longer. If nothing else, they may have avoided the potential wipeout that was coming.

[Muta]

Have never been a Trudeau fan or Doug Ford fan, but definitely have liked how they both have handled this tariff stuff. Well done.

[WideReceiver]

Originally Posted by Muta

Have never been a Trudeau fan or Doug Ford fan, but definitely have liked how they both have handled this tariff stuff. Well done.

You left out Daniele Smith? On purpose?

[PepsiFree]

Smith might be the biggest loser in all of this on this side of the border. Jury’s out on PP, he was pretty impotent, so at very least he finally has some actual work to do.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by WideReceiver

You left out Daniele Smith? On purpose?

Hahaha... intentionally. Marlaina partied/wined/dined with the GOP on the taxpayers' dime and claimed it was for the good of Alberta, decided to virtue signal as long as possible instead of standing with the rest of Canada (and smelling very traitorous in the process), and in the end, managed to get #### all accomplished, on literally any front, in any of this. She's literally one of the worst politician in Canadian history.

[GioforPM]

PP has to be happy this is (temporarily) over. He was losing ground every day.

The Liberals would do well to attack him on Trump/MAGA ties. Which he has.

[woob]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

PP has to be happy this is (temporarily) over. He was losing ground every day.

The Liberals would do well to attack him on Trump/MAGA ties. Which he has.

I mean, today it's over. Who knows what's in order for the rest of the week with Trump.

Liberals better get moving though and sort themselves out.

[Looch City]

Expect some CPC meltdowns with polls next few weeks.

Who listens to polls anyways? They're just phone calls right? Polls are useless!

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by getbak

https://twitter.com/user/status/1886529228193022429


Trudeau saves Canada!!!

...By agreeing to do things we're either already doing or said we were going to do.

This part is interesting:

...we will list cartels as terrorists...launch a Canada- U.S. Joint Strike Force to combat organized crime...

Maybe I am reading too much into it, but doesn't that make it sound possible that American law enforcement and potentially even the military could be given power to operate in Canada?

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

This part is interesting:



Maybe I am reading too much into it, but doesn't that make it sound possible that American law enforcement and potentially even the military could be given power to operate in Canada?

Law enforcement already operate on both sides of the border, there isn't anything new here really

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Smith might be the biggest loser in all of this on this side of the border. Jury’s out on PP, he was pretty impotent, so at very least he finally has some actual work to do.

She can claim victory on this as well. She lobbied hard for diplomacy, energy carve outs, increased border spending, and a border czar, all of which happened. Of course they would have happened anyway (not sure about the border car, but it sounds like something the Americans would have put forward). She also boosted her profile among Canadian conservatives and became a favourite on Fox and others.

Of course she was pushing to do all of this up front with no quid pro quo which would have tanked our negotiating power if he had proceeded with tariffs anyway. Make no mistake, Trump wanted a show of strength and a win, which he gets through this tariff theatre. And it's not over yet - way too early to claim victory or credits, but that won't stop everyone involved claiming they were the ones.

i think Trudeau comes out of this looking the most statesmanlike - took some proactive steps (I won't argue they weren't long overdue), had a plan to push back, and made a deal without a huge amount of grandstanding. Smith and Ford both improved their stock, and Poilievre is looking like he may have peaked too soon.

[FlamesAddiction]

The increased spending, cooperation with the U.S., and helicopters are things that were already announced by Trudeau a while ago. The only real additions was designating cartels as terrorist groups and adding the position of czar.

If that's all Trump wanted to add, the deal could have been completed a long time ago.

Honestly, hopefully is does help with the fentanyl issues in Canada and organized crime. The realization that Mexican cartels are operating in B.C. should have raised more alarm bells.

[edslunch]

The infuriating thing about Trudeau is that he skates through life saying all the right things but not delivering, then at the last minute he does the right thing and makes it look easy, but then doesn’t build on it. If he was staying on and the tariff threat went away I’m sure all this talk of interprovincial trade, new markets, etc. would also disappear. He is clearly capable of doing more but seems unable or unwilling to.

[afc wimbledon]

Be nice if we could get a provincial or at least a lower mainland police force in BC out of this, the balkanization of policing is an absolute gift to organized crime, we have disorganized policing

[Manhattanboy]

Throwing this against the wall. Is it possible as a result of this the Liberal party moves to the right somewhat, maybe even dead centre in terms of how they might manage the economy going forward? This is a huge wake up call and I wonder if (Liberal) voters are going to be united against the past Liberal agenda/priorities?

Is it possible we might even see cooperation between the Libs and CPC should either win a minority government?

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Throwing this against the wall. Is it possible as a result of this the Liberal party moves to the right somewhat, maybe even dead centre in terms of how they might manage the economy going forward? This is a huge wake up call and I wonder if (Liberal) voters are going to be united against the past Liberal agenda/priorities?

Is it possible we might even see cooperation between the Libs and CPC should either win a minority government?

The Libs were always kind of centre. It was Trudeau's loser move that the Libs went to the left of the NDP.

The only thing that saved him is the Cons threw up 3 useless far rightwing morons to fight him giving him 2 easy wins. Anyone reasonable should have beat him, and Yappy Pierre Pomeranian is not reasonable lol

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Throwing this against the wall. Is it possible as a result of this the Liberal party moves to the right somewhat, maybe even dead centre in terms of how they might manage the economy going forward? This is a huge wake up call and I wonder if (Liberal) voters are going to be united against the past Liberal agenda/priorities?

Is it possible we might even see cooperation between the Libs and CPC should either win a minority government?

If anything it’s a move left that is required to subsidize east west movements of goods.

[Ferarri]

Originally Posted by Muta

Have never been a Trudeau fan or Doug Ford fan, but definitely have liked how they both have handled this tariff stuff. Well done.

My sentiments exactly. Doug Ford gained my respect by putting country first rather than political ideology. The same can’t be said for Smith. It’s astonishing though the support she received from Albertans. You go to her Twitter/X page and it’s endless replies about how wonderful she is and the real deal broker.

Hopefully it’s just her base pandering to her separatist agenda. She was ready to sell out Canada and that should never be forgotten.