2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Royle9]

There were talks in the summer around:
CGY receives: Cozens + Byram
BUF receives: Andersson + Pospisil

With that said talks very much continue between the two teams, but I've NOT heard confirmation that those names are still on the board.
I do think that Buffalo has tried to pivot away from Cozens and inserting Krebs, but Calgary wasn't very high on Krebs whos definitely not a comparable to Cozens at this point.
Adams is very high on Hellenius, I'd wager it would take a significant offer from Calgary to even get Kevyn moving in that direction - Andersson + 1st + ______

• There's very much significant dialogue between the two, and I know Buffalo has broadened there forward ask from Calgary (including Coronato)
• Now what I do know is that Craig continues to listen to any and all offers on our players.
• Andersson remains commodity #1 on our roster, and it sounds like his name is the hottest around the league right now.
• Craig is not open to trading Coronato nor Backlund at this time, obviously other players on this list like Wolf/Parekh etc
• Craig's priority is still a #1/2 Center preferably under 25
• Vladar's name continues to come up - Not entirely sure how eager Craig is to trade him however

[traptor]

You're not getting a sure thing when trying to acquire a young top 6 C.
Even with Eichel when he was traded, had serious red flags.

Cozens is about as good as we can hope for.

I just don't see Buffalo moving him at his lowest, when their biggest need is a solid 2C anyways. Maybe if you convince Kadri to not have the Sabres on his m-ntc.

I also really can't see the flames moving core pieces like Rasmus or Kadri right now given where they are in the standings unless these guys are demanding out and i doubt they're demanding out to go play for a team like the Sabres. It's not how the flames operate.

I'm starting to think that wolf will keep us from bottoming out for the next decade too, so the flames might need to make some really savy deals and find diamonds in the rough.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Necas was available all summer, and he even got bridged by Carolina. Think teams are cautious with some of these guys.

If Cozens was to sign today, no way he gets 7.1 a year. He is likely bridged as well.

This really feels like Dion to me, Dion signed the big deal and fell off a cliff. I mean if Buffalo wants a mishmash like we got for him sure.

Kuzmenko/Rooney/Pachal/Klapka for Cozens and a prospect.

Dion played 7 seasons with the leafs, mostly as a top pairing guy.
He never realized the heady potential that it seemed like he had in his early seasons, but he was still a quality dman for many years.

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by Locke

Regehr won a Cup. That wasn't happening here. Same with Backlund. He's never winning a Cup here.

Yeah, I'm aware. That doesn't change anything I said

[Toonage]

I love how we have a rotating door of centres, two guys approaching the twilight of their careers and a journeyman on 4L and we're like "hmm...no not that guy" when looking at trades.

Does a deal appeal more to people if its not Andersson headed out but rather the NJD 2025 1st?

[Vinny01]

I was listening to the 32 thoughts pod this morning in the background while getting some work done. I am not exactly sure which team Friedman was talking about but he was mentioning just how hard it is the exit a rebuild when a team tears it right down. There was some talk about the Blackhawks and how Bedard wanted to play meaningful games late this season and the Hawks are currently in last place in the league.

You have to think that is what Conroy, Maloney, and Edwards are most concerned about. Montreal is facing those challenges as their fans hoped they would see a step forward and they are in 30th place. The bottom 5 teams from last year are the bottom 5 teams in the league nearly a quarter of the way into the season. The Flames are playing above all expectations right now in part because the team is working hard and there are the veteran 6 who are leading the way in the room.

For me personally I hope the Flames maximize the Andersson asset and I would prefer a return like Lindholm but with a much better prospect than Brzustewicz but getting a pick and a teams top 3-5 prospect would be a nice start. I do not want any aggressive attempts at getting better until the summer of 2026 when they are entering the last season in the Dome and hopefully have a top 5 pick from the 2026 draft in the stable.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Dion played 7 seasons with the leafs, mostly as a top pairing guy.
He never realized the heady potential that it seemed like he had in his early seasons, but he was still a quality dman for many years.

His 3rd season was his peak is what I am saying, he was a Norris nominee. Got 6.5M a year and never reached those levels again.

Cozens is being paid to be a 60 plus point player, and he has had some serious regression.

I just don't see the Flames being in a position to spend the assets Buffalo would want and add another large contract when we have 2 guys not living up to their deals right now.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I was listening to the 32 thoughts pod this morning in the background while getting some work done. I am not exactly sure which team Friedman was talking about but he was mentioning just how hard it is the exit a rebuild when a team tears it right down. There was some talk about the Blackhawks and how Bedard wanted to play meaningful games late this season and the Hawks are currently in last place in the league.

You have to think that is what Conroy, Maloney, and Edwards are most concerned about. Montreal is facing those challenges as their fans hoped they would see a step forward and they are in 30th place. The bottom 5 teams from last year are the bottom 5 teams in the league nearly a quarter of the way into the season. The Flames are playing above all expectations right now in part because the team is working hard and there are the veteran 6 who are leading the way in the room.

For me personally I hope the Flames maximize the Andersson asset and I would prefer a return like Lindholm but with a much better prospect than Brzustewicz but getting a pick and a teams top 3-5 prospect would be a nice start. I do not want any aggressive attempts at getting better until the summer of 2026 when they are entering the last season in the Dome and hopefully have a top 5 pick from the 2026 draft in the stable.

Montreal made stupid trades for Newhook and Dach. Not sure what Chicago is doing, and San Jose has 18 and 19 year olds on the team.

They are also 4-5 points back of 15th place in the league, a lot can change.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Royle9

There were talks in the summer around:
CGY receives: Cozens + Byram
BUF receives: Andersson + Pospisil

With that said talks very much continue between the two teams, but I've NOT heard confirmation that those names are still on the board.
I do think that Buffalo has tried to pivot away from Cozens and inserting Krebs, but Calgary wasn't very high on Krebs whos definitely not a comparable to Cozens at this point.
Adams is very high on Hellenius, I'd wager it would take a significant offer from Calgary to even get Kevyn moving in that direction - Andersson + 1st + ______

• There's very much significant dialogue between the two, and I know Buffalo has broadened there forward ask from Calgary (including Coronato)
• Now what I do know is that Craig continues to listen to any and all offers on our players.
• Andersson remains commodity #1 on our roster, and it sounds like his name is the hottest around the league right now.
• Craig is not open to trading Coronato nor Backlund at this time, obviously other players on this list like Wolf/Parekh etc
• Craig's priority is still a #1/2 Center preferably under 25
• Vladar's name continues to come up - Not entirely sure how eager Craig is to trade him however

Damn, I really wish that deal had been completed. Byram still has so much potential.

[camm13]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Backs has earned the right to retire playing for just on organization or chase a cup if he so wishes. The fact that he re-signed with the Flames tells me he plans to retire a Flame. Conny probably isn't even going to consider moving Backlund unless the player's camp initiates trade talk.

I don't think him re signing 100% indicates that he wants to retire a Flame, he's said numerous times that give his age, winning is important. However, hitting the 1000 games mark was a milestone he wanted to do with the Flames. His NMC turns into a 15 team no trade that kicks in Jan 2026. I for one would love to see him play out his entire career here. But given how is contract could shake out, he still could very much leave to chase a cup.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Damn, I really wish that deal had been completed. Byram still has so much potential.

Kind of a reg flag being traded twice before the age of 24 as a #4 overall pick.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Adams is very high on Hellenius, I'd wager it would take a significant offer from Calgary to even get Kevyn moving in that direction - Andersson + 1st + ______

If the Flames want a young C be it Cozens, Helenius, whoever they are going to need to spend a 1st. The 25 NJD 1st, VGK 26 1st, or squeeze an added condition into this years 1st I guess. Either way, they're going to have to spend it. Even if Andersson is part of the deal IMO.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by Royle9

There were talks in the summer around:
CGY receives: Cozens + Byram
BUF receives: Andersson + Pospisil

With that said talks very much continue between the two teams, but I've NOT heard confirmation that those names are still on the board.
I do think that Buffalo has tried to pivot away from Cozens and inserting Krebs, but Calgary wasn't very high on Krebs whos definitely not a comparable to Cozens at this point.
Adams is very high on Hellenius, I'd wager it would take a significant offer from Calgary to even get Kevyn moving in that direction - Andersson + 1st + ______

• There's very much significant dialogue between the two, and I know Buffalo has broadened there forward ask from Calgary (including Coronato)
• Now what I do know is that Craig continues to listen to any and all offers on our players.
• Andersson remains commodity #1 on our roster, and it sounds like his name is the hottest around the league right now.
• Craig is not open to trading Coronato nor Backlund at this time, obviously other players on this list like Wolf/Parekh etc
• Craig's priority is still a #1/2 Center preferably under 25
• Vladar's name continues to come up - Not entirely sure how eager Craig is to trade him however

Thanks for the info Royle, I like the basis of that deal if Connie could make it happen.

[FusionX]

Huberdeau + Andersson for Cozens + 2nd + bad contract back

Who says no? Gut says Sabres but they get a chance to rejuvenate Huberdeau with Thompson, get Rasmus and lose what is currently not a sure thing in Cozens. Risk is obviously the huberdeau contract for them.

For us, obviously not a great return if we're trading Rasmus and replace a pretty bad contract for currently a pretty bad contract that could improve. But we get out of Huberdeaus contract.

In my head I don't think it's crazy one sided but I suspect I'm underestimating just how bad Huberdeau's contract is...

[HighLifeMan]

Originally Posted by Toonage

If the Flames want a young C be it Cozens, Helenius, whoever they are going to need to spend a 1st. The 25 NJD 1st, VGK 26 1st, or squeeze an added condition into this years 1st I guess. Either way, they're going to have to spend it. Even if Andersson is part of the deal IMO.

Adams literally just traded a center prospect whom he drafted in the top 10 for a 3rd line center in Mcleod. Asking for Andersson + 1st + another asset for Helenius is just nonsensical just months after that previous trade.

Conroy just needs to be patient here. There should be zero rush to make a deal at this point. Let some other GM get desperate and take advantage of that.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I can't see Buffalo tradig roster players either in the middle of the season if they want to make the playoffs.

They have no replacement if they trade Cozens.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by FusionX

Huberdeau + Andersson for Cozens + 2nd + bad contract back

Who says no? Gut says Sabres but they get a chance to rejuvenate Huberdeau with Thompson, get Rasmus and lose what is currently not a sure thing in Cozens. Risk is obviously the huberdeau contract for them.

For us, obviously not a great return if we're trading Rasmus and replace a pretty bad contract for currently a pretty bad contract that could improve. But we get out of Huberdeaus contract.

In my head I don't think it's crazy one sided but I suspect I'm underestimating just how bad Huberdeau's contract is...

Buffalo hangs up, no one is taking Huberdeau's contract.

Don't like Cozens, don't trade for him. But Buffalo is not treating him like Huberdeau.

Huberdeau's contract is the worse in the league. He's no longer trending to be a 50 point player, he's now in the middle 40's even after a very hot start. if they remove him from the PP1, he might be in the high 20's-low 30's.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by HighLifeMan

Adams literally just traded a center prospect whom he drafted in the top 10 for a 3rd line center in Mcleod. Asking for Andersson + 1st + another asset for Helenius is just nonsensical just months after that previous trade.

Conroy just needs to be patient here. There should be zero rush to make a deal at this point. Let some other GM get desperate and take advantage of that.

It really depends on their view of Savoie and Helenius. They may have really loved Helenius which made Savoie expendable. Or not?

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Junglist

He’s already peaked in the same year that Thompson and Tuch had career years.

You think a player peaked at 21? You have some really dumb takes.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

You think a player peaked at 21? You have some really dumb takes.

He is currently on pace for 29 points. He had 47 last year.

He could have peaked, who knows. I just don't want ot be the team spending assets to see if he bounces back, not with that contract.