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Old 10-17-2023, 01:47 PM   #1961
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Keep in mind, this is what Israeli military officials said last week. They are literally telling you what they intend to do and people are still like well Israel does not target civilians.

"Israeli Defense Forces spokesperson Daniel Hagari saying the "emphasis is on damage and not on accuracy."

https://www.newsweek.com/holocaust-h...-segal-1835346

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Old 10-17-2023, 01:54 PM   #1962
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Keep in mind, this is what Israeli military officials said last week. They are literally telling you what they intend to do and people are still like well Israel does not target civilians.

"Israeli Defense Forces spokesperson Daniel Hagari saying the "emphasis is on damage and not on accuracy."

https://www.newsweek.com/holocaust-h...-segal-1835346
Keep in mind, that’s not evidence for who did this specific event. You understand this, right?
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The Jerusalem Post is saying the IDF is claiming it was a missile from Palestinian Islamic Jihad, not Hamas. No video evidence is given.
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Old 10-17-2023, 01:56 PM   #1964
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Are there any examples of Hamas' missiles having that kind of destructive power? I always pictured their missiles being a bit more ghetto.
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Old 10-17-2023, 01:59 PM   #1965
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Old 10-17-2023, 02:03 PM   #1966
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Are there any examples of Hamas' missiles having that kind of destructive power? I always pictured their missiles being a bit more ghetto.
If it went down soon after launch the missile would be full of fuel and so would be fairly more explosive
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Keep in mind, that’s not evidence for who did this specific event. You understand this, right?
No, it's not evidence. But it shows how this notion that israel would never do this is completely false.
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Old 10-17-2023, 02:10 PM   #1968
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I don't think anyone is suggesting that Israel would never bomb a hospital because we know they have before. The question is would they bomb a hospital and then claim not to have done so, rather than defending the action as militarily sound or necessary or what have you. I don't know if they've done that before.
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Old 10-17-2023, 02:17 PM   #1969
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... How can you have any idea what's going on? How can literally ANYONE be certain that Israel is lying about this, or for that matter, that they aren't? There is just a serious lack of credible information.

You can't. But most people pick a side based on their ideology and are tribal, if they see something that confirms their view of the world they rarely look past that ("the easiest person to fool is yourself" -Feynman). That's why hate the absolute certainty people think they have when making claims, especially about things they have no expertise on (even then it's dubious).
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Regardless of the cause, Israel will still blamed for the hospital bombing.

Pro-Hamas spin machines and bots putting out millions of social medial posts as we speak.

Rallies at eleven.
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No, it's not evidence. But it shows how this notion that israel would never do this is completely false.
Awesome, now we are arguing whether Israel might do this.
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Here's the Al Jazeera's live broadcast that caught the missile strike. Hey this one is Al Jazeera, so again make up your own minds.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1714372387674694078
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Oh thank God for Al Jazeera, that beacon of light in a sea of fake news.
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Old 10-17-2023, 02:37 PM   #1974
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Oh thank God for Al Jazeera, that beacon of light in a sea of fake news.
I too am exhausted with al jazeera's endless israeli propaganda.
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Old 10-17-2023, 02:38 PM   #1975
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https://reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/s/6Nrf4C4tsO

Another view of it being posted online

Edit: just will say this is not confirmed, just going around

https://reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/s/CNzFL1AMDC

Here is another I found, also not verified

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Being reported by MSNBC.

Hamas willing to release all civilians if bombing of Gaza ends.
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Being reported by MSNBC.

Hamas willing to release all civilians if bombing of Gaza ends.
That would be wonderful. Let's hope it actually happens and things de-escalate significantly.
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Awesome, now we are arguing whether Israel might do this.
Israel was giving evacuation orders to hospitals, its army said focus is on damage not accuracy , I don't know call me crazy but I think there's a good chance Israel did it.
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Old 10-17-2023, 02:53 PM   #1979
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Israel was giving evacuation orders to hospitals, its army said focus is on damage not accuracy , I don't know call me crazy but I think there's a good chance Israel did it.
Well it’s at least 50/50, so yeah.
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Old 10-17-2023, 02:58 PM   #1980
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Take it for what its worth but one IDF commander suggested a ground offensive into Gaza is not a certainty.
If true, that would save a lot of lives on both sides, and probably allow a path forward.
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