Friedman: Gaudreau negotiations will be put on hold during World Cup

[Freeway]

It was the Flyers, and it was more of a "yeah, sure, it could be fun somebody in the future..." kinda answer.

[TheAlpineOracle]

Originally Posted by GoJetsGo

And that's because they grow up and are paid millions of dollars to play elsewhere and can afford to travel anywhere they want at any time on top of the fact they have several months off each summer.

It's why it's a big reach to suggest the geography / family angle is a problem.

Especially in the face of Gaudreau saying he wants to be in Calgary long term and early news that both sides are seeking a long term.

It just doesn't add up to the amount of concern you're trying to put forth on nothing but a gut feeling.

What do you expect him to say? That he doesn't know if he doesn't want to here long term or not yet? He's going to be here at a minimum 4-5 years longer regardless.

I don't know why it's hard to accept that there might me more at play here than money. It's no slight on Calgary or our city, but this is different than signing some small town Canadian Prairie kid. This is a US hockey star with bigtime East Coast roots.

[Gaudreauvertime]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Just "giving him his money" is precisely the wrong approach. Particularly if you are doing so on the basis of 3 non NHL games.
3 games proves nothing. It suggests something. But it proves nothing.

3 WCH games and 3 pre-tournament WCH games, against the best in the world, does more than merely suggest greatness, especially when combined with what he has proven at every single level.

He's been the tournament's best player in the combined 6 games. He literally looks like he's the best player in the world. And I wouldn't be surprised if he proves it this season.

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by TheAlpineOracle

What do you expect him to say? That he doesn't know if he doesn't want to here long term or not yet? He's going to be here at a minimum 4-5 years longer regardless.

If he was thinking what you're suggesting?

"No comment" or nothing at all.

What you're saying is possible, it's just unlikely and a huge reach. You're certainly not going to convince anyone here with nothing more to go on than just your feeling.

[TheAlpineOracle]

Originally Posted by GoJetsGo

If he was thinking what you're suggesting?

"No comment" or nothing at all.

What you're saying is possible, it's just unlikely and a huge reach. You're certainly not going to convince anyone here with nothing more to go on than just your feeling.

The guys is going to play here this season and beyond, not sure why people are getting so worked up about him not being signed.

I just personally feel there's a lot more at play to get a US hockey superstar that clearly has a strong family bond to commit longterm to a Canadian team than there is to getting a guy from his own country to re-up and I think that's likely one of the issues holding this up.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by TheAlpineOracle

Not every NHL player can play basically where they grew up, among friends and family, with the team they grew up watching.

I'm not saying he doesn't want to be in Calgary today, but 7-8 years is a big commitment. If i'm him i'm pushing for the contract that gets me to UFA the shortest. Keep my options open. Calgary is probable pushing for a 7-8 year deal.

I don't think this stalemate is about money. I think the market is pretty much set for him. 7.25 - 7.5M.

All he had to do was not sign in Calgary when he did and he would have been a UFA in a year and sign where ever he pleased.

So dumb to suggest that he is anymore or less close to his family than every other guy in the league or that he wants to play near home more than anyone else.

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by TheAlpineOracle

The guys is going to play here this season and beyond, not sure why people are getting so worked up about him not being signed.

If by "worked up" you mean discussing it on a message board, it would be because this is a Flames forum and our best player has yet to sign with training camp about to start. Then you add to it, people coming in and suggesting there are potential problems based on nothing more than a gut feeling, and you can see why it's a hot topic.

Originally Posted by TheAlpineOracle

I just personally feel there's a lot more at play to get a US hockey superstar that clearly has a strong family bond to commit longterm to a Canadian team than there is to getting a guy from his own country to re-up and I think that's likely one of the issues holding this up.

Yea, you've said this same thing about three different times now. Got it.

[Azure]

I think he was willing to gamble that the World Cup would be a massive success for him, and therefore would net him more money and a better term.

I see no problem with that.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime

3 WCH games and 3 pre-tournament WCH games, against the best in the world, does more than merely suggest greatness, especially when combined with what he has proven at every single level.

He's been the tournament's best player in the combined 6 games. He literally looks like he's the best player in the world. And I wouldn't be surprised if he proves it this season.

mean absolutely nothing in regards to his leverage or the desire the Flames have for his compensation to be what they think it should be.

[Gaudreauvertime]

Originally Posted by transplant99

mean absolutely nothing in regards to his leverage or the desire the Flames have for his compensation to be what they think it should be.

Disagree. He's made it abundantly clear that he's an elite player. Puts more public pressure on the team to get him signed. A hold out after the clinic he's put on would look pretty bad.

[TheAlpineOracle]

Originally Posted by Azure

I think he was willing to gamble that the World Cup would be a massive success for him, and therefore would net him more money and a better term.

I see no problem with that.

I don't see how the World Cup is going to have any impact on his negotiations. He's basically the top of the class for his age bracket/contract status. It's basically 6.8M to what Tarasenko makes. That's what it was before this tournament started, and that's what it will be afterwards.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Stay the course Brad. Safe to say all of Calgarypuck is behind you in a long stern negotiation.

[nik-]

Yeah, I want a team, not one superstar. Lets have money for all our young talent.

[Gaudreauvertime]

Originally Posted by nik-

Yeah, I want a team, not one superstar. Lets have money for all our young talent.

If you don't want a superstar, then why not trade him?

Do you really think a deal at 7.5-8 vs 6.75-7.25 is going to make any real difference in our ability to retain talent? If it's the difference between 8 years and 3, then just sign him long term and be done with it. He's very obviously worth it.

[nik-]

Maybe we will trade him, who knows.

[Hey Connor, It's Mess]

Originally Posted by nik-

Maybe we will trade him, who knows.

No.

[nik-]

maybe

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime

If you don't want a superstar, then why not trade him?

Do you really think a deal at 7.5-8 vs 6.75-7.25 is going to make any real difference in our ability to retain talent? If it's the difference between 8 years and 3, then just sign him long term and be done with it. He's very obviously worth it.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime

Disagree. He's made it abundantly clear that he's an elite player. Puts more public pressure on the team to get him signed. A hold out after the clinic he's put on would look pretty bad.

A hold out would be entirely on him though. He would be the one "looking bad".

"Public pressure" will have zero effect on this management team.... as it certainly hasn't so far and nothing has changed in that situation. He signs what they think is market price...or he sits. His call.

[TheoFleury]

Originally Posted by nik-

maybe

Would be a sad day. I was hoping for playoffs this year, not more rebuilding.