The fact that certain people have made #######ized or improvised versions of a drink with whatever they had on hand does not somehow expand what the drink is. The entire point is that it looks like a red eye. The yolk is what creates this visual. Recipes that omit the egg presumably do so because some people are weirded out by the notion of drinking a raw egg - squeamishness does not give one license to re-define a term, any more than I can remove the bacon and still call my sandwich a BLT.
I'm open to certain variations on drinks that don't change the basic essence of them. If someone wants to use celery bitters in a red eye, cool. If you want to float a bit of red wine on top of your manhattan, go nuts. But you can't omit a central ingredient to a drink and have it still be that same drink. It's like making a mint julep without mint.
Clamato and beer is a clamato shandy, simple enough.
Bread, lettuce, tomato.
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the fact that certain people have made #######ized or improvised versions of a drink with whatever they had on hand does not somehow expand what the drink is. The entire point is that it looks like a red eye. Thus the name. The yolk is what creates this visual. Recipes that omit the egg presumably do so because some people are weirded out by the notion of drinking a raw egg - squeamishness does not give one license to re-define a term, any more than i can remove the bacon and still call my sandwich a blt.
I'm open to certain variations on drinks that don't change the basic essence of them. If someone wants to use celery bitters in a red eye, cool. If you want to float a bit of red wine on top of your manhattan, go nuts. But you can't omit a central ingredient to a drink and have it still be that same drink. It's like making a mint julep without mint.
Clamato and beer is a ####ing abomination simple enough.
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Like you're going to drink large quantities of liquid, but remain somewhat sober, the opposite of shots of Tequila. Like drinking non alcoholic beer.
Like if I go somewhere when I have to drive home I can still have a few beers mixed with Clamato, and it feels like I am drinking a lot but the alcohol consumption is not a lot.
Speaking of the red eye and the egg, that was on an episode of Shameless a couple of weeks ago, where he cracked a raw egg into his tomato and beer. I thought it was a pretty weird drink, but never tied the two together.
I was actually thinking of a bloody Mary may have been Tomato and Beer
The fact that certain people have made #######ized or improvised versions of a drink with whatever they had on hand does not somehow expand what the drink is. The entire point is that it looks like a red eye. Thus the name. The yolk is what creates this visual. Recipes that omit the egg presumably do so because some people are weirded out by the notion of drinking a raw egg - squeamishness does not give one license to re-define a term, any more than I can remove the bacon and still call my sandwich a BLT.
I'm open to certain variations on drinks that don't change the basic essence of them. If someone wants to use celery bitters in a red eye, cool. If you want to float a bit of red wine on top of your manhattan, go nuts. But you can't omit a central ingredient to a drink and have it still be that same drink. It's like making a mint julep without mint.
Clamato and beer is a clamato shandy, simple enough.
I thought that was just called a "clam eye".
The egg yolk in beer does sound repulsive; I have ordered red eyes and they didn't contain eggs. Maybe because eggs aren't used often enough to keep at a pub, so it's regularly omitted.
I kinda feel the same about Martinis... but I've accepted I'm on the wrong side of popular opinion on the matter.
A martini is Gin, Vermouth, and olive or lemon twist.
No syrups, creams, sugars, fruit slices, rims, flavoured vodkas, floats, candies, coffee, juices and etc belong anywhere in a Martini.
No, a boozy milkshake (delicious as it may be) served in a stemmed glass is not a martini. No a vodka & cranberry juice shaken and strained is not a martini. Your "martini list" should only have 1 drink on it.
But as I said, I know popular opinion on this matter is that "anything served in a stemmed glass is a martini!" regardless of ingredients. But to me, there's only 1 type of martini, and it's heavy on the gin.
Like you're going to drink large quantities of liquid, but remain somewhat sober, the opposite of shots of Tequila. Like drinking non alcoholic beer.
Like if I go somewhere when I have to drive home I can still have a few beers mixed with Clamato, and it feels like I am drinking a lot but the alcohol consumption is not a lot.
Clam and beer is perfect before/during/after golf.
One of the best feelings I have in life is this. Play a good game of golf on a hot day, have a few beers after and then when you go home, have a cool shower, after that put on some swim shorts with the netting for a crotch, and have a cold clam and beer outside in the shade. I think I am at my happiest in life when I do this. wait, maybe 2nd or 3rd, but it's up there.
Clam and beer is perfect before/during/after golf.
One of the best feelings I have in life is this. Play a good game of golf on a hot day, have a few beers after and then when you go home, have a cool shower, after that put on some swim shorts with the netting for a crotch, and have a cold clam and beer outside in the shade. I think I am at my happiest in life when I do this. wait, maybe 2nd or 3rd, but it's up there.
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I kinda feel the same about Martinis... but I've accepted I'm on the wrong side of popular opinion on the matter. A martini is Gin, Vermouth, and olive or lemon twist.
True, but it's hard to argue that a vodka martini isn't also a martini... I mean it's a different drink, but if I order a martini I'm not going to be taken aback if the bartender asks vodka or gin.
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No syrups, creams, sugars, fruit slices, rims, flavoured vodkas, floats, candies, coffee, juices and etc belong anywhere in a Martini. No, a boozy milkshake (delicious as it may be) served in a stemmed glass is not a martini. No a vodka & cranberry juice shaken and strained is not a martini.
Well yeah, but don't all of these go by different names? I mean an Appletini is just a different drink than a martini. I agree it's a bit weird that these drinks have appropriated the "tini" suffix. Not sure how or why that came about, aside from the same glass they bear no resemblance to the original drink.
I probably feel less strongly about this because I don't like martinis.
True, but it's hard to argue that a vodka martini isn't also a martini... I mean it's a different drink, but if I order a martini I'm not going to be taken aback if the bartender asks vodka or gin.
Well yeah, but don't all of these go by different names? I mean an Appletini is just a different drink than a martini. I agree it's a bit weird that these drinks have appropriated the "tini" suffix. Not sure how or why that came about, aside from the same glass they bear no resemblance to the original drink.
I probably feel less strongly about this because I don't like martinis.
Yeah I concede the "gin or vodka" is sorta splitting hairs.
But gin is my poison of choice, and I resent anyone who suggest vodka is a reasonable substitute for the glorious nectar from the gods that is gin. And all the silly "tinis" are akin to ordering a black coffee and being asked "is a decaf double double ok?".
The fact that certain people have made #######ized or improvised versions of a drink with whatever they had on hand does not somehow expand what the drink is. The entire point is that it looks like a red eye. Thus the name. The yolk is what creates this visual. Recipes that omit the egg presumably do so because some people are weirded out by the notion of drinking a raw egg - squeamishness does not give one license to re-define a term, any more than I can remove the bacon and still call my sandwich a BLT.
I'm open to certain variations on drinks that don't change the basic essence of them. If someone wants to use celery bitters in a red eye, cool. If you want to float a bit of red wine on top of your manhattan, go nuts. But you can't omit a central ingredient to a drink and have it still be that same drink. It's like making a mint julep without mint.
Clamato and beer is a clamato shandy, simple enough.
You're literally basing your entire argument off of a Tom Cruise movie.
When you purported that the red eye had to have an egg in it, which was invented by the movie "Cocktail".
The red eye is called the red eye because it's a supposed cure for the hangover, not because it has an egg in it. The egg is absolutely %100 optional. That is, again, unless you're really into Tom Cruise movies.
Having an egg in your beer, however, has been around for ages. It just isn't actually called anything.
When you purported that the red eye had to have an egg in it, which was invented by the movie "Cocktail".
The red eye is called the red eye because it's a supposed cure for the hangover, not because it has an egg in it. The egg is absolutely %100 optional. That is, again, unless you're really into Tom Cruise movies.
Having an egg in your beer, however, has been around for ages. It just isn't actually called anything.
I think it's called breakfast
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Dealers are so meticulously micro managed from the factory level and by AMVIC now, they won't dare risk their dealer license and pull a switch like that. The crappy part about going to the dealer and getting your oil changed is waiting 1-2 hours for some surly tech who would rather be swapping out a transmission or rebuilding a head doing a job a 14 year old could do. But the good part is the fact that you have a surly tech who would rather be swapping out a transmission or rebuilding a head doing a job a 14 year old could do.They don't miss anything.
I caught my dealer blatantly lying to me about $1200 worth of work that was required for my truck. They sent me an email after my service that outlined all the issues with my truck and asked me to call them to schedule the work. I took it to a mechanic to confirm as it seemed excessive. The mechanic found only one issue out of 5 was real (in his opinion) and performed that task for half the quoted dealer price. When I went in to talk to the dealer about the remaining work they admitted that the required work was actually just a recommendation based on miles even though the email said it was based on a visual inspection.
I will not take my truck back to that dealership for any work if I can avoid it.
(I won't go to the minit lube places either but I have a mechanic that I trust.)
Do you honestly think a Tech that has 4 years of schooling, and probably another 5 years at least, of factory training, is only worth $17 for the 40 minutes the average dealer Oil Change takes? Those grimy schmucks back there, are some of the most brilliant people I have ever met. They solve some ridiculously impossible problems. Some of the guys I have met wrenching cars, could probably build frikking rockets. There isn't a dealership in North America that turns a profit on a straight up $79 oil change. Why do you think they have service packages, and brake jobs, and warranty work they all try to squeeze in at the same time.
Maybe Calgary is different but from what I can see no one in the lube bay at my dealership is older than 20.
The mechanics are in the other bay charging out at $100 an hour.
