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Old 04-08-2014, 03:35 PM   #1961
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Have you not realized that people really don't talk much about the articles that are optimistic and supportive of the Flames?

He's really just a salesman trying to get clicks and people to buy copies of the Sun. There's a reason he's not winning any journalism awards.
I don't care, guy is a tool.
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Old 04-08-2014, 03:58 PM   #1962
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I love Gaudreau, but the guy may not he wrong. He still has a ton to overcome to become an NHL regular.

His trade value is more difficult to pin down so it would depend on the situation
His trade value is no harder to pin down than any other prospect's... it is a simple case of what would someone pay and what would the Flames accept?

And only a fool would accept a 2nd rounder for Gaudreau.

His value is a similar high-end (likely high risk, high reward) prospect in return.
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Old 04-08-2014, 05:11 PM   #1963
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His trade value is no harder to pin down than any other prospect's... it is a simple case of what would someone pay and what would the Flames accept?

And only a fool would accept a 2nd rounder for Gaudreau.

His value is a similar high-end (likely high risk, high reward) prospect in return.
Clearly you missed my point when I said it depends on the situation.

If for some reason he chooses not to sign with the Flames and it becomes public knowledge only a fool would turn down a 2nd rounder for Gaudreau because his value would drop exponentially.

But at this point in time you are correct, it would be stupid to trade him for a 2nd.
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Old 04-08-2014, 09:41 PM   #1964
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This isn't that complicated. There is just a lot of noise. Gaudreau is Flames property. Gaudreau has developed as much as he can in College. Gaudrea is focused on a hockey career and the best thing for that career is to go pro this season. The only team he can go pro with this season is the Calgary Flames. Out of context statements or Eric Francis's intentionally controversial articles are just noise distracting from the basic facts.

If he decides to waste a season of development to complete his senior year than the conversation changes. But my expectation is that common sense will get through and he will do the right thing for his hockey career. If, for whatever reason, it doesn't we can change the conversation then.
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Old 04-08-2014, 10:02 PM   #1965
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Old 04-09-2014, 09:53 AM   #1966
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"As a hockey person, not as a father, I think he needs another level to play at," Guy Gaudreau said. "As his mom and dad, we think it's very important that he get his education."

Johnny Gaudreau admits he has been wrestling with his decision.

"It's tough," Johnny Gaudreau said. "My mom really wants me to stay, and I want her to be comfortable with my decision. I feel like either will be a good decision for me."


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"If the Flames told him he had to play for nothing, he would do it," Guy Gaudreau said. "He's happiest when he's on the ice."
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"It's a man's game," an NHL scouting director who asked not to be identified said in discussing Gaudreau as an NHL prospect. "He's a special guy. Maybe he'll be one of the little guys who beats the odds. But the odds are not in his favor."
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Old 04-09-2014, 10:03 AM   #1967
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Small players have to be quick, smart, and mentally strong. He's definitely the first two, the second one will come with time, but he definitely rises to the occasion. He's got the skill, and I think that Burke's desire for a big, tough team to play against works in Johnny's favour. If he's got Monahan and a guy like Ferland or Poirier on his line, that's a skilled, speedy group with some muscle (Poirier). You'll be less focussed on trying to squish Gaudreau than you are on not letting him make you look like a fool. (This is in the future)
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Old 04-09-2014, 10:13 AM   #1968
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His dad's comment about playing for nothing is hugely interesting. To me, that sounds like a pretty bold, albeit indirect, dedication to the Flames.
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Old 04-09-2014, 11:10 AM   #1970
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God I am sick of posts like this. Such a fresh approach. We get it, he gets it, he's a small player.
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His dad's comment about playing for nothing is hugely interesting. To me, that sounds like a pretty bold, albeit indirect, dedication to the Flames.
Except he followed it up by saying Johnny would play it anyways if it was the right thing to do. He's signing with Calgary either way though
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I love Gaudreau, but the guy may not he wrong. He still has a ton to overcome to become an NHL regular.

His trade value is more difficult to pin down so it would depend on the situation
Couldn't find where but I remember reading that the Flames were offered 1sts for him from a few different teams at last year's draft.
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http://youtu.be/Lk6rrsLNNTE

Great local story on Johnny. I got my train ticket, game ticket, beer, Johnny hockey shirt, flames hat, and food packed for a 10am 20min trip to Philly to support Johnny.
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Nothing would make Francis happier than Gaudreau to do that and then leave and sign with another team. Over the years I have become convinced that guy hates the Flames with the passion of a thousand suns and is probably a huge closet Canucks fan. He feasts off Flames failures and bad news.
Well Eric Francis is from Ontario
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Old 04-09-2014, 11:21 PM   #1977
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So mods can ask me for my source and i can provide, but a friend of mine told me that he talked with Brian Burke yesterday and asked him about Johnny. Burke said right to him that Johnny would be in the line up Sunday night vs the Canucks.

Take it for what its worth but those were the words out of his mouth.

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So mods can ask me for my source and i can provide, but a friend of mine told me that he talked with Brian Burke yesterday and asked him about Johnny. Burke said right to him that Johnny would be in the line up Sunday night vs the Canucks.

Take it for what its worth but those were the words out of his mouth.
I hope your right, because you just ruined my night. I watched the new Johnny video when I saw it on Twitter this morning and got all excited for Saturday, then BChockeyJunkie got me excited again, now this.

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Old 04-09-2014, 11:47 PM   #1979
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http://youtu.be/Lk6rrsLNNTE

Great local story on Johnny. I got my train ticket, game ticket, beer, Johnny hockey shirt, flames hat, and food packed for a 10am 20min trip to Philly to support Johnny.
Lol Skittles has got to sponsor him.
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Couldn't find where but I remember reading that the Flames were offered 1sts for him from a few different teams at last year's draft.
Read my other posts after that, I was more clear about what I meant.
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