02-07-2024, 02:23 PM
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#19761
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Originally Posted by dammage79
Not sure what you mean Cowan is more of a Tanev. Cowans a small forward producing at just under 2 ppg.
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Pardon me. Edited. I see him as a speedier Backstrom with more upside.
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02-07-2024, 02:23 PM
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#19762
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by bluejays
I would think it’d have to be Cowan plus a third or something. Cowan seems to be more of a 2nd line player who shuts guys down if things work out for him.
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You got to be thinking of someone else. Lillegren maybe?
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02-07-2024, 02:26 PM
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#19763
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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For Tanev, if it was Liljegren and a Minten level prospect I think I'd be okay with it. That's a serviceable RHD to replace Tanev. And helps T.O with some cap maneuverability.
I know the ask is a 1st. But it'd be hard to say no to a player prospect package that's valued at more than a 1st.
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02-07-2024, 02:27 PM
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#19764
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonded
You got to be thinking of someone else. Lillegren maybe?
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Ah damn. You’re right. 
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02-07-2024, 02:29 PM
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#19765
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Harry Lime
There is no rental premium with mangiapane. There is a premium for buying an extra year under contract, with retention. And there is no reason for calgary to be a cap team next year. Smart move would be to sell him this season.
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There's always a rental premium for a player with an expiring contract, particularly if the seller retains salary. Not having the guy count against your cap next year is attractive to contenders, who generally have enough problems re-signing their own players.
At the moment, Mangiapane is perilously close to being a cap dump. Next season, a lot more teams will be able to fit him in, and the Flames will have a new set of retention slots.
Maybe the best thing would be to move him at the draft.
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02-07-2024, 02:31 PM
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#19766
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay Random
There's always a rental premium for a player with an expiring contract, particularly if the seller retains salary. Not having the guy count against your cap next year is attractive to contenders, who generally have enough problems re-signing their own players.
At the moment, Mangiapane is perilously close to being a cap dump. Next season, a lot more teams will be able to fit him in, and the Flames will have a new set of retention slots.
Maybe the best thing would be to move him at the draft.
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Although if they have a spare slot this year, it's all the same as far as that goes.
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02-07-2024, 02:33 PM
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#19767
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Although if they have a spare slot this year, it's all the same as far as that goes.
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True, but we don't know yet that they will. I certainly wouldn't move Mangiapane with retention until deadline day, in case that slot is needed for another deal.
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02-07-2024, 02:37 PM
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#19768
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay Random
True, but we don't know yet that they will. I certainly wouldn't move Mangiapane with retention until deadline day, in case that slot is needed for another deal.
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Right. I just know that Conroy managed to avoid using them three times already. And he only has two pending UFAs left this year (not counting Kylington and guys like Rooney, Oesterle and Gilbert). He might need one for a goalie trade I guess.
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02-07-2024, 02:50 PM
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#19769
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Right. I just know that Conroy managed to avoid using them three times already. And he only has two pending UFAs left this year (not counting Kylington and guys like Rooney, Oesterle and Gilbert). He might need one for a goalie trade I guess.
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Plus he can get in the middle of two teams and get say a 4th for a retention spot.
Add another couple of mid draft picks using two slots.
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02-07-2024, 02:58 PM
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#19770
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Speaking of Kakko, while I’m not huge on him, and given I believe he’s a fa after another year, would Tanev, third rounder for him work for everyone?
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02-07-2024, 03:05 PM
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#19771
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by bluejays
Speaking of Kakko, while I’m not huge on him, and given I believe he’s a fa after another year, would Tanev, third rounder for him work for everyone?
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I'd be fine with that unless the Devil's would pay a 1st for some reason.
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02-07-2024, 03:13 PM
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#19772
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UnModerator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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I think if a team is giving up a 1st for Tanev it'll be the Leafs.
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02-07-2024, 04:08 PM
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#19773
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo
Plus he can get in the middle of two teams and get say a 4th for a retention spot.
Add another couple of mid draft picks using two slots.
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Yeah by keeping those retention slots Conroy gives himself the highest flexibility possibible for the deadline. He can help broker some deals for teams that might otherwise be handcuffed.
If he doesn’t use them that’s ok too, but it’s great ammunition to head in to the deadline with
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02-07-2024, 04:10 PM
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#19774
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonded
I'd be fine with that unless the Devil's would pay a 1st for some reason.
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I’m good with that as well.
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02-07-2024, 04:56 PM
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#19775
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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02-07-2024, 06:04 PM
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#19777
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
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Originally Posted by Sec214
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Wow……. Gio reunion?? With the 1st?? Hmm something big coming?!
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02-07-2024, 06:04 PM
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#19778
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by Sec214
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Surprise Giordano trade?
Shoot, Heavy Jack beat me to the punch. 
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02-07-2024, 06:05 PM
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#19779
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Scoring Winger
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No oilers no oilers
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Originally Posted by Sec214
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02-07-2024, 06:07 PM
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#19780
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Surprise Giordano trade?
Shoot, Heavy Jack beat me to the punch. |
lol it honestly doesn’t make a ton of sense but Gio is Mr bean, if he is coming back has to be part of something bigger you’d think. Treliving has apparently been working away at something, come on Conman!!
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