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Old 02-06-2024, 10:56 AM   #19621
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and one of the RFAs is a biggie.
Both RFAs are important. Myers’ cap is basically being allocated between those two and then some.
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Man, if I am a GM of a team that will likely be picking in that 24 to 32 range, I don't even hesitate to give up a 1st for Tanev. The only thing I may do, is put it conditional on him playing 4 playoff games to protect myself against injury in which case it drops to a 2nd rounder. Tanev is the type of pickup to put you over the top in the playoffs, can slot in anywhere from 4 to 6 with no problem, plus he tends to elevate whoever he plays with.
If you put that condition in you likely don’t get him, unless you are the only team offering a first.
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Old 02-06-2024, 10:59 AM   #19623
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From LeBrun at The Athletic this morning:

"Again, as I reported last week, the sense is the Flames want a second-round pick plus another asset for Tanev, although if you’re a team like the Maple Leafs without a second-round pick for the next three years, I’m confident still in saying Toronto’s price to pay on Tanev is a first-round pick. I just don’t know if that’s a price Leafs GM Brad Treliving will want to pay or not. And if he does, I would imagine he would have some level of confidence he can re-sign Tanev before July 1."
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I wouldn't want that condition for the Flames. There's still 30 games to go before playoffs. We all know it's not zero odds Tanev gets injured again before the season is over. Buyer beware. Sold as is.
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Old 02-06-2024, 11:15 AM   #19625
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Both RFAs are important. Myers’ cap is basically being allocated between those two and then some.
Hell a couple of the UFAs feel like must re-signs right now.
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Old 02-06-2024, 11:22 AM   #19626
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Does it really matter that the Leafs don't have a 2nd?
It could always be Tanev + 3rd (or 4th or whatever) for a 1st.
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Does it really matter that the Leafs don't have a 2nd?
It could always be Tanev + 3rd (or 4th or whatever) for a 1st.

Let them lose another game or two and that added pick won't be necessary
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Old 02-06-2024, 11:46 AM   #19628
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Does it really matter that the Leafs don't have a 2nd?
It could always be Tanev + 3rd (or 4th or whatever) for a 1st.
Nope. We’re 95% to likely retain half on Tanev if it’s Toronto that lands him. 2024 1st or eff off. No picks given from us unless Brad wants a 7th rounder to be proud of himself for gaining a pick back.
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Would a trade for tanev for conor garland be good?
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Nope. We’re 95% to likely retain half on Tanev if it’s Toronto that lands him. 2024 1st or eff off. No picks given from us unless Brad wants a 7th rounder to be proud of himself for gaining a pick back.
agreed. I could live with a 2nd plus a solid prospect from someone else, but given Toronto doesn't have one, it's a 1st or go pound sand IMO.
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Would a trade for tanev for conor garland be good?
No.
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Would a trade for tanev for conor garland be good?
Not going to happen, for either team.
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Athletic is a joke. Not worth the $1/month I was paying for it.
Agreed about the Athletic no longer being worth it. I have access through my NY Times subscription, but I wouldn't pay for it otherwise.
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Would a trade for tanev for conor garland be good?
No more canuck garbage.

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Old 02-06-2024, 12:32 PM   #19635
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Updated projections for prospects based on draft position using historical data.

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Updated projections for prospects based on draft position using historical data.

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This is why I am always good with trading firsts for young players, especially if you have multiple firsts. They are over valued IMO
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some might use those numbers to argue that draft picks are overvalued, but to me, it's actually the opposite. How else are you going to find star players and build your franchise in the long run? The more picks you have, the higher the chance you hit on some. Give me as many picks as possible ... can never have enough bullets in the chamber.
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some might use those numbers to argue that draft picks are overvalued, but to me, it's actually the opposite. How else are you going to find star players and build your franchise in the long run? The more picks you have, the higher the chance you hit on some. Give me as many picks as possible ... can never have enough bullets in the chamber.
Yeah if you took the data one step further and compared it team by team, I think it would highlight which teams have the best scouting departments more than anything else. The value that some teams like Dallas, Tampa, Carolina, etc. have found over the years is very impressive. Hell, even look at the way Wolf is trending as a 7th round pick.

Still though, it's cool to see the league averages like that. Great chart.
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Updated projections for prospects based on draft position using historical data.

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I would like to see this chart redone without Edmonton picks counted.
I wonder if a bunch of their busts skew things.
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Why does the fifth round stink so much?
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