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Originally Posted by Locke
But doesnt that sort of fit with their 'whatever it takes and whatever works' ethos?
The Sith werent exactly huge on 'rules' like the Jedi, I cant see them doing fencing duels with a polite 'point!'
It seems to me that the more civilized age is over, this is going to be a more brutal age.
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Maybe, but its funny if you go by the Legends universe or EU.
With the Sith in the old republic they were very much into the whole martial combats thing.
In the Darth Bane trilogy when Bane was at the Sith academy, he spend hours a day with the other students learning the same kind of dueling styles as the Jedi
Later in the third book of the trilogy an older Bane spend hours practicing dueling per day, the Sith took a great amount of pleasure out of basically beating the Jedi at their own game when the opportunity came along.
When Bane was poisoned by another Sith, he mused on and latter taught his apprentice that the Sith didn't kill just to kill, they didn't seem themselves as raving psychopathic rage monsters. The Sith would only kill if there was an absolute gain to it.
Count Dooku still relied on his dueling skills and the whole civilized age concept in ROTS and AOTC
In Dark Lord the Rise of Darth Vader, in the early days of his training at the feet of Sidious he constructed a new light saber. Basically Sids told Vader that the Sith didn't need light sabers but there was a certain pleasure and irony in using a lightsaber and striking down a Jedi.
The Sith under the rule of two you're absolutely right relied on guile and deception and corrupted the levels of society and government to tip the Republic to the point where the people would applaud as liberty died. But as yoda talked about in the ROTS book when he fought Sidious and was outdueld that in their exile, the Sith had re-invented themselves, that they had spent a thousand years studying Sith and Jedi Philosophies.
While the Jedi had spent a thousand years training to fight the Sith that they had knew, that the Sith had evolved to the point where they just surpassed the Jedi of the day and used the Jedi's arrogance and complacency against them.
In this case I believe that because of the fall of Vader and his master, the Sith were reset to the point where they were at pre-rise of Darth Bane. All of that legacy knowledge that had been passed along for thousands of years was lost.
Ren might be trying to recover all points of knowledge because the Sith, gain knowledge through power, while the Jedi gain power through knowledge. ( I think I have that right).
To me, Ren is probably not well trained and not powerfull like a jedi master or Sith Lord, in the land of non force users he would still be a giant in a land filled with Mini-me's. But I'm betting his force powers are limited, and his dueling is rudimentary, and he compensates via power.
I'm betting that as the movies go along we will see Ren rise in power.
