2025/2026 Season Trade Rumours and Speculation Thread

[HighLifeMan]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

We don't have a defenceman that fits their core and they can build around. Sorry, but this does not scream Andersson to me.

I am not sure I agree with that.

I don't think you can win with a group of exclusively U25 players. At 29, Andersson is the perfect age to compliment that core group moving forward, whereas guys like Orlov (34), Toffoli (33), Leddy (34), Skinner (33) etc are very likely too old.

We saw it with the Blackhawks who didn't start to piece it together until guys like Hossa (30), Campbell (29), Sopel (30) were brought in to compliment the young elite talent on that roster.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Everyone knows Andersson is getting traded. Neither Coleman or Kadri need to move this year, they are different situations, and Kadri can make a trade difficult and Coleman can make it impossible. I think an Andersson trade and a skid will push them to being open though

And ? The post was about their value changing / getting low balled if Conroy announced a rebuild

If everyone knows he’s getting traded already what Conroy says has zero impact . Which was my point exactly !

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

I take that to mean they want younger dmen they can grow with their very young core.

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

We don't have a defenceman that fits their core and they can build around. Sorry, but this does not scream Andersson to me.

I think it would depend on if they could sign him to an extension. They could certainly build around Andersson stabilizing their D for 8 years.

I just have a hard time coming up with an under 25 year old top 4 D that might get traded. Maybe one of Byram and Power out of BUF? Nemec out of NJD?

Maybe one of the upcoming RFAs: Edvinsson, Broberg, Clarke, Zellweger, Mintyukov. I still have to squint pretty hard to see any of them moving.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Not sure that he still wants out (or necessarily did, but was rumoured to be available 2 months ago), but Power makes a lot of sense for San Jose.


With that said, Andersson will still make sense on top of Power. Power is a LHS. Sharks have the ammo to get both. If they get both, they look much better today, and more dominant down the road.


San Jose - Buffalo
Power - Misa


San Jose - Calgary
Andersson - Bystedt + 1st + 2nd
or
Andersson - Wang + 1st


Anyway, San Jose still has a lot of prospects. If I am Andersson, I would definitely extend there as there window is just about to open, and they have good pieces in every position with defence being the weakest.



Edit: Gvitaly beat me to the punch with Power.

[Jiri Hrdina]

The challenge with guys like Power, Nemec, etc is that those teams will want a similar young emerging star player in return given where those clubs are in their own development. They are trying to move into contention windows as well. Same with the Ducks with Minty.
And San Jose wants to add to that young core, not subtract from it.

That's where Rasmus may make more sense, because he's still relatively young, but they can acquire him without giving up a Misa or Eklund type of player.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

And ? The post was about their value changing / getting low balled if Conroy announced a rebuild

If everyone knows he’s getting traded already what Conroy says has zero impact . Which was my point exactly !

Andersson isn’t the same situation as Kadri or Coleman. If you don’t think it matters then what is the point of announcing a rebuild.

[YyjFlames]

Slightly off topic, but I watched the Letterman "My next guest" interview with Charles Barkley last night. Barkley told a funny story about going to Moses Malone to get some advice on how to get more playing time early on in his career.

Malone told him you don't get played because "you're fat and you're lazy."

Barkley said it hurt but he ended up working with him to drop 40 pounds. He wouldn't have become the superstar player he became without Malone.

Veteran leadership isn't just an intangible. It's vital for developing young super confident talented players.

It's also interesting that Barkley was one of the most opinionated and sparky characters in the NBA at that time--with a few similarities to Parekh. Having vets around him to draw some lines didn't kill his character. It helped guide him and develop him.

Veteran leadership is important, and this is very much influencing the Flames' rebuild process and why we're probably not going to see Kadri traded in the next even couple years unless he wants out or Conroy really gets his socks blown off.

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by HighLifeMan

I am not sure I agree with that.

I don't think you can win with a group of exclusively U25 players. At 29, Andersson is the perfect age to compliment that core group moving forward, whereas guys like Orlov (34), Toffoli (33), Leddy (34), Skinner (33) etc are very likely too old.

We saw it with the Blackhawks who didn't start to piece it together until guys like Hossa (30), Campbell (29), Sopel (30) were brought in to compliment the young elite talent on that roster.

Ok, but that is not what the tweet says. The tweet specifically says they are looking for someone to build around, that is not Andersson.

Will they add Andersson? Possibly, just saying nothing in that tweet points to Andersson.

To reiterate what gvitali said, they may go to Andersson because 25 year old stud defenceman don't grow on trees.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by YyjFlames

Slightly off topic, but I watched the Letterman "My next guest" interview with Charles Barkley last night. Barkley told a funny story about going to Moses Malone to get some advice on how to get more playing time early on in his career.

Malone told him you don't get played because "you're fat and you're lazy."

Barkley said it hurt but he ended up working with him to drop 40 pounds. He wouldn't have become the superstar player he became without Malone.

Veteran leadership isn't just an intangible. It's vital for developing young super confident talented players.

It's also interesting that Barkley was one of the most opinionated and sparky characters in the NBA at that time--with a few similarities to Parekh. Having vets around him to draw some lines didn't kill his character. It helped guide him and develop him.

Veteran leadership is important, and this is very much influencing the Flames' rebuild process and why we're probably not going to see Kadri traded in the next even couple years unless he wants out or Conroy really gets his socks blown off.

The real question is how many veterans do you need.

They will have Backlund, Huberdeau, and Weegar at the very least. Guys like Bahl, Frost, Farabee will all be in their upper 20s and have dealt with trades and struggles at the NHL level.

Not like they will just be throwing these guys to the wolves if they trade Kadri and Coleman.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

Ok, but that is not what the tweet says. The tweet specifically says they are looking for someone to build around, that is not Andersson.

Will they add Andersson? Possibly, just saying nothing in that tweet points to Andersson.

Doesn’t mean it isn’t like you concluded in your post

[Roko]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

The real question is how many veterans do you need.

They will have Backlund, Huberdeau, and Weegar at the very least. Guys like Bahl, Frost, Farabee will all be in their upper 20s and have dealt with trades and struggles at the NHL level.

Not like they will just be throwing these guys to the wolves if they trade Kadri and Coleman.

Yeah I ain’t worried about it. We have enough vets

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Doesn’t mean it isn’t like you concluded in your post

You mean when I said "to me", as in my opinion.

Sorry, forgot the new CP rules where we can't discuss anything and have opinions. Carry on.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Roko

Yeah I ain’t worried about it. We have enough vets

It’s not really about the number of vets, it’s the type and the leadership qualities.

Kadri and Coleman aren’t the two being sought after just because of their on ice performance. For every guy like Kadri there’s a guy like Neal.

You don’t just plug a random 30 year old into the roster and say “there, now we have veteran leadership.”

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

It’s not really about the number of vets, it’s the type and the leadership qualities.

Kadri and Coleman aren’t the two being sought after just because of their on ice performance. For every guy like Kadri there’s a guy like Neal.

You don’t just plug a random 30 year old into the roster and say “there, now we have veteran leadership.”

except thats literally what we did with both Kadri and Coleman.

These guys are available in FA and go to teams with promising, talented, young high draft picks. Hossa is an example referenced already in the thread.

[BigFlameDog]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Not sure I agree, but then you know that.

Moving a host of veterans.
Acquiring a bunch of draft capital
Picking twice in the first round for three straight years.
Sitting on cap space.
Not acquiring any help at the deadline or the summer.

Pretty clear direction to me.

At this point you should just quote this in your sig Bingo.

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

It’s not really about the number of vets, it’s the type and the leadership qualities.

Kadri and Coleman aren’t the two being sought after just because of their on ice performance. For every guy like Kadri there’s a guy like Neal.

You don’t just plug a random 30 year old into the roster and say “there, now we have veteran leadership.”

We are paying Huberdeau $10.5 MM per year. Maybe he can carry a bit of weight on his contract and provide that leadership and become the official mentor.

There is also Backlund who has been with the team forever. Weegar is another guy that can provide leadership as well as Lomberg with his cup wins.

That should be a good base. Need more? Overpay a few guys in Free Agency who have a great reputation with all the cap space.

Not to mention, you have players like Frost, Farabee, Bahl, Sharangovich who can provide a bit of leadership as they take the next step in their career.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

except thats literally what we did with both Kadri and Coleman.

These guys are available in FA and go to teams with promising, talented, young high draft picks. Hossa is an example referenced already in the thread.

Both of their leadership qualities were well established before they joined the Flames, that’s why we acquired them.

I’m not saying don’t trade them, I’m pushing back on the idea that just having vets around means you have leadership, vs having actual leaders.

Just because McDavid is an elite center and a captain doesn’t mean he’s Crosby in the leadership department. That shouldn’t be a controversial take.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

The challenge with guys like Power, Nemec, etc is that those teams will want a similar young emerging star player in return given where those clubs are in their own development. They are trying to move into contention windows as well. Same with the Ducks with Minty.
And San Jose wants to add to that young core, not subtract from it.

That's where Rasmus may make more sense, because he's still relatively young, but they can acquire him without giving up a Misa or Eklund type of player.

I agree with you, but according to Pagnottta, they are looking for a young core defencemen to build around. I can only think of Power personally (but once again, with Buffalo rolling, does he still want out, and would Buffalo want to tinker when things are finally looking good?). Nemec to me is borderline as a defencemen you 'build around'. I doubt Vancouver would want to swap Buium. Calgary would have to include Parekh. I really can't think of any young defencemen that may be available.


Andersson does make a lot of sense for them (even after they acquire the defencemen to build around), and of course the price would be substantially cheaper.


I am sure that San Jose doesn't want to move Misa, but I doubt that any team holding a defencemen that San Jose would want to build around would accept a deal without a Misa, Smith or Ecklund ++ as pieces coming back.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by keenan87

We are paying Huberdeau $10.5 MM per year. Maybe he can carry a bit of weight on his contract and provide that leadership and become the official mentor.

There is also Backlund who has been with the team forever. Weegar is another guy that can provide leadership as well as Lomberg with his cup wins.

That should be a good base. Need more? Overpay a few guys in Free Agency who have a great reputation with all the cap space.

Not to mention, you have players like Frost, Farabee, Bahl, Sharangovich who can provide a bit of leadership as they take the next step in their career.

Can Huberdeau, Frost, Farabee, Bahl, or Sharangovich?

We haven’t seen it.

Again: age or role =/= leadership.

Doesn’t mean you don’t trade Kadri and Coleman. But also doesn’t mean you get to totally discount what you’re losing or that it’s easy to replace.

[Demetric]

Originally Posted by Rhett44

We are not getting Misa for Anderssson. I really hope no one has those expectations, or they will be very disappointed.

I do now, thanks