2007 NFL Regular Season

[flames_1987]

The Colts of all team weren't going to take any chance's last night after the number of key injurys they've had this year. I do feel bad for the Browns fans, who are among the most loyal and die hard in the NFL.

I'm getting sick of these reports on Marvin Harrison. The week before the Patriots, Dungy talked about how Marvin would've played had it been a playoff game. That was 10 weeks ago

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Flames in 07

The colts did the right thing, to compare them to the giants and patriots is unfair, and just wrong ... for obvious reasons.

If Manning went down then what?

The Browns had a great year, but the Titans play in the toughest division on the planet, so the football gods did the right thing arranging for them to play against Sorgi in week 17.

Its the EXACT same friggin thing and entirely RIGHT.

The Patriots nor the Giants had anything to gain by winning or losin beyond theundefeated regular season stuff.

I would love to hear your explanation on what these "obvious reasons" are.

I mean if Eli Manning or Brady go down...then what?

[burn_baby_burn]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

Yeah, all it likely would have done was allowed them to win a playoff game or make a couple other playoff appearances had they had a better QB or a top WR. The lack of any type of defence ultimately had more to do with their standing than anything. Of course now that that great line is gone....things look pretty bleak unless they do a great job of drafting here this year.

That will be what they stack up on. Wegman is getting old and slow. Welbourne is done. Svtek isn't bad at right tackle. Waters is awsome but he obviously can't do it himself. McIntosh is nothing speacil and hurt half the time. Lets get some young studs in there. Having a high draft pick should land a franchise OL. Lets just hope he pans out better than Trezelle Jenkins or any other draft bust Peterson has picked over the years. Siavii, Ryan Sims, Julian Battle, Snoop Minnis, ect, ect..................................

[rubecube]

^^ Jake Long should be available when they pick.

[rubecube]

Javon Walker wants out of Denver.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_7850208

The Eagles could use him, but seeing him whine his way out of two organizations makes me leeery

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Javon Walker wants out of Denver.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_7850208

The Eagles could use him, but seeing him whine his way out of two organizations makes me leeery

Interpretation: That Brandon Marshall kid is way better than I'll ever be and I don't want to be a #2 receiver.

I REALLY liked Javon Walker as a receiver and was excited about the prospect of him being healthy and having that 3 receiver threat with the two Brandons. He can get bent.

That said, maybe having Darrent Williams die in his arms soured him on the whole affair. Could be.

But I'm going with the former. Marshall is just flat out better. Period.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

Interpretation: That Brandon Marshall kid is way better than I'll ever be and I don't want to be a #2 receiver.

I've always liked Marshall. I was pissed when the Eagles took him over Avant in the 4th round that year.

[moon]

Originally Posted by burn_baby_burn

You have to be kidding? So the why didn't Dungy sit Manning in 90% of the games this year. Not worth getting him hurt since the Colts are a shoe in for the Super Bowl. How long you been a Colts fan? 2005 - 2006?

I am not sure how me commenting on the Colts resting Manning for one game means that I am not only some how a Colts fan bt also have them as a shoe-in for the SB but I guess people will read what they want not what is written. For what its worth I have been Lions fan since the early 90's, never have been a colts fan.

The second string comment was in regards to the fact that with the inept Titans offense it didn't matter who was in the game for the Colts because there always was a chance they could win.

If Cleveland wants to make the play-offs they should beat teams like the Bengals that quit on the season around week four not whine about other teams not playing hard enough for them to sneak in.

[Saint Troy]

Is it sad that I am scouring the defensive prospects for the upcoming draft already? Such a disappointing season with expectations so high. The villain being the defence which was completely and utterly awful, as they made the various backups and mutts like McCown, Carr, Redman, Leftwich look like hall of famers.

p.s. I think I want Ellis, Laurinitis or Phillips.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by Saint Troy

Is it sad that I am scouring the defensive prospects for the upcoming draft already? Such a disappointing season with expectations so high. The villain being the defence which was completely and utterly awful, as they made the various backups and mutts like McCown, Carr, Redman, Leftwich look like hall of famers.

p.s. I think I want Ellis, Laurinitis or Phillips.

Has anyone published a draft order yet? I could figure it out on my own of course, but there are people out there who get paid to do these things!

[Saint Troy]

1 Miami 1-15 .539

2 St. Louis 3-13 .512

3-5 Kansas City 4-12 .516 Atlanta 4-12 .516 Oakland 4-12 .516

6 New York Jets 4-12 .523

7 New England (from San Francisco) 5-11 .465

8 Baltimore 5-11 .516

9 Cincinnati 7-9 .461

10 New Orleans 7-9 .477

11 Buffalo 7-9 .516

12 Denver 7-9 .516

13 Carolina 7-9 .520

14 Chicago 7-9 .543

15 Detroit 7-9 .543

16 Arizona 8-8 .434

17 Minnesota 8-8 .504

18 Houston 8-8 .516

19 Philadelphia 8-8 .563

Teams 20-32 to be determined by playoffs (Cleveland's pick will be the exception):

20 Tampa Bay 9-7 .469

21 Washington 9-7 .555

22 Dallas (from Cleveland) 10-6 .425 ***Cleveland's record will have them picking lower even though they failed to make the playoffs with 10 wins. Therefore, Dallas will get a lower pick than normal once the playoffs decides the final 12 picks. I put them as the lowest 10-6 despite having a higher strength-of-schedule than Seattle because Seattle made the playoffs.***

23 Seattle 10-6 .414

24 Pittsburgh 10-6 .453

25 Tennessee 10-6 .500

26 New York Giants 10-6 .516

27 San Diego 11-5 .500

28 Jacksonville 11-5 .516

29 Green Bay 13-3 .469

30 San Francisco (from Indianapolis) 13-3 .516

31 Dallas 13-3 .496

32 New England (pick forfeited)

[troutman]

Originally Posted by moon

If Cleveland wants to make the play-offs they should beat teams like the Bengals that quit on the season around week four not whine about other teams not playing hard enough for them to sneak in.

This is a poor argument. TEN only had to play 15 real football games. CLE had to play 16. Completely unfair. Dungy made no effort to win the game. He would not call time outs at the end of the game when IND still had a chance. LAME.

[Super-Rye]

Originally Posted by troutman

This is a poor argument. TEN only had to play 15 real football games. CLE had to play 16. Completely unfair. Dungy made no effort to win the game. He would not call time outs at the end of the game when IND still had a chance. LAME.

No it's a valid argument. The Browns had a chance to clinch the spot and threw the game away. The Colts owe the Browns nothing. The Colts are in it to win in the long run, not to help the Browns make the playoffs.

[moon]

Originally Posted by troutman

This is a poor argument. TEN only had to play 15 real football games. CLE had to play 16. Completely unfair. Dungy made no effort to win the game. He would not call time outs at the end of the game when IND still had a chance. LAME.

The Browns got to play the Bengals who had given up on their season in about week 4. Its not the Colts fault that the Browns lost their "free" game.

The Colts lost by 6 points they sure could of done a much better job of not trying to win than to come within 6 points of the Titans.

[Sylvanfan]

Yeah the Browns had control of their destiny and gave it up in week 15. When you lose control of your own fate, you leave it to chance and no one owes you anything. To cry about the Colts, is just like a Leaf fan crying about New Jersey playing their backup in game 82 against the Islanders last year....Think about that Troutman....you're as bad as a Leafs fan!!!!

[flames_1987]

No first rounder this year for Indy, which kind've makes me a little less excited for the draft. Although the trade to draft Ugoh last year is looking like a steal.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Watched the entire Javon Walker 'locker interview' today. That guy has issues. Made it clear that the Broncos have given no indication that they don't want him. Made it clear that he hasn't lost anything physically. Basically, his comments support my theory that he doesn't want to play second fiddle to Marshall on the outside. I'll give Shanahan a chance to talk to him and get him to buy into the Broncos again before I totally dismiss the possibility that he's a Bronco next year, but it looks like he's trying to facilitate a trade without saying so. Disappointing.

Matt Lepsis retired today as well. It will be interesting to see what the OL looks like next season. Nalen is supposed to be back at C after recovering from the biceps tear, but I haven't heard if Ben Hamilton's concussion issues are career threatening or not. The two young Chris' from the 06 draft got valuable playing time this year, but weren't always up to par. Some big holes for Shanahan to fill.

[burn_baby_burn]

Originally Posted by moon

I am not sure how me commenting on the Colts resting Manning for one game means that I am not only some how a Colts fan bt also have them as a shoe-in for the SB but I guess people will read what they want not what is written. For what its worth I have been Lions fan since the early 90's, never have been a colts fan.

I appolagize for misunderstanding your post. But it sounded like a cocky Colts fan saying that it didn't matter who the Colts played. They were going to win anyway, type of attitude.

Lions fan huh? I feel your pain. (well not really, if the Chiefs keep the current pace for 50 more years, then I will really know your pain.) When will the Bobby Lane curse end?

[troutman]

Originally Posted by moon

The Browns got to play the Bengals who had given up on their season in about week 4. Its not the Colts fault that the Browns lost their "free" game.

The Browns never had a "free" game. The Bengals were at home, and are bitter rivals. TEN had a freebie. No comparison.

[Sylvanfan]

If it was such a freebie, why did their starting QB end up hurt and them having to rely on their kicker to boom a long field goal? Also if Wayne doesn't fumble on that first drive Indy probably goes in for a TD.