Our negotiators need to tell Lutnick and those losers right to their faces that the more times they keep doing this, the more they look like a bunch of f’n clowns on the world stage. We need to try and sell them on the idea that if they drop the tariffs entirely and return to our existing, prosperous, and beneficial trade agreement/friendship, Trump will be viewed in a positive light by the American public and his approval rating will bounce back up. We can even give him another fake win like last time and say we gave him something that we were already doing anyway.
Our negotiators need to tell Lutnick and those losers right to their faces that the more times they keep doing this, the more they look like a bunch of f’n clowns on the world stage.
There is no indication that they care about this. The world calling them clowns just feeds into their whole "us vs them" narrative.
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We need to try and sell them on the idea that if they drop the tariffs entirely and return to our existing, prosperous, and beneficial trade agreement/friendship, Trump will be viewed in a positive light by the American public and his approval rating will bounce back up. We can even give him another fake win like last time and say we gave him something that we were already doing anyway.
This is probably what will happen / work. "They made all the commitments we asked for so we dropped the tariffs, another great deal for the American People negotiated by the deal maker in Chief", etc.
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I have to say I'm pleasantly surprised by Canadian's overall resolve here. Most people I talk to are down to avoid American products as much as they can, even if it costs a bit more. Should be doing it all the time.
Yep, that's one of the consequences of electing someone like Trump. My purchasing habits have now changed for the rest of my life, and my family's. Different administration or not, this will go on for years, decades. And I know I'm not the only Canadian that feels this way. It's too bad, but FAFO America.
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Trump pauses tariffs on Mexican goods covered by USMCA until April 2 Trump said he will pause tariffs on Mexican goods that fall under the USMCA trade agreement until April 2.
“After speaking with President Claudia Sheinbaum of Mexico, I have agreed that Mexico will not be required to pay Tariffs on anything that falls under the USMCA Agreement,” Trump posted on Truth Social. “This Agreement is until April 2nd.”
Trump said he agreed to the exemption “out of respect” for Mexico President Claudia Sheinbaum. He did not mention Canada in the social media post.
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After speaking with President Claudia Sheinbaum of Mexico, I have agreed that Mexico will not be required to pay Tariffs on anything that falls under the USMCA Agreement. This Agreement is until April 2nd. I did this as an accommodation, and out of respect for, President Sheinbaum. Our relationship has been a very good one, and we are working hard, together, on the Border, both in terms of stopping Illegal Aliens from entering the United States and, likewise, stopping Fentanyl. Thank you to President Sheinbaum for your hard work and cooperation!
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Believe it or not, despite the terrible job he’s done for Canada, I think that Justin Trudeau is using the Tariff problem, which he has largely caused, in order to run again for Prime Minister. So much fun to watch!
Even when American booze is on the shelves, I would imagine that it is not selling well. Yanking it is obviously very symbolic and effective, but if nobody buys it and it just sits there, the impact will still be felt.
Of course, soundbites and images of empty shelves are the reason, but I do feel that most Canadians are avoiding it anyway. I know that my late 2024 toe dipping into bourbon has come to an abrupt end after one bottle, and it will take a lot more than the next tariff flip-flop by the US to get me back on board, if ever.
The impact is not felt by the producers until the importers/regulators stop ordering. Once LCBO or AGLC or whatever importer brings in a shipment it has benefited the American producers. If they don't sell the existing inventory it only hurts them because I highly doubt they can return any unsold bottles.
A responsible media would already be stating that Trudeau has resigned so when Trump inevitably claims he forced Trudeau to resign, it's on the record before, not that it will matter. But there's zero actual journalism left in the US and there's a zero percent chance he doesn't take credit for it.
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The impact is not felt by the producers until the importers/regulators stop ordering. Once LCBO or AGLC or whatever importer brings in a shipment it has benefited the American producers. If they don't sell the existing inventory it only hurts them because I highly doubt they can return any unsold bottles.
Read something this morning suggesting this is not the case, but haven't verified.
Yup, looks like the full pause is only for Mexico. What a petulant a**hole. Pretty clear at this point that Trump’s beef has nothing to do with any of the previous excuses he’s used, or even with Canada itself. He just seems to hate Trudeau to the extent that he’s willing to damage the economies of both countries just to spite him. This is obviously personal.
Yup, looks like the full pause is only for Mexico. What a petulant a**hole. Pretty clear at this point that Trump’s beef has nothing to do with any of the previous excuses he’s used, or even with Canada itself. He just seems to hate Trudeau to the extent that he’s willing to damage the economies of both countries just to spite him. This is obviously personal.
It's because he doesn't want Mexico. He wants their people to stop coming, but he doesn't want the actual country. He literally wants Canada (and Greenland) for resources. Well, Putin does and he told him to how to get it.
Just saw a short interview with Trudeau. He basically just said that negotiations are still on-going and that he and Trump’s phone call yesterday was “substantive”. But didn’t elaborate too much on what exactly was talked about.
There was another report I saw this morning that said our dairy market was discussed.
It's because he doesn't want Mexico. He wants their people to stop coming, but he doesn't want the actual country. He literally wants Canada (and Greenland) for resources. Well, Putin does and he told him to how to get it.
For as much that republicans deny climate change i also think this has to do with places like Arizona etc becoming unlivable someday sooner than later. There will be northern migration at some point. And also those sweet sweet natural resources of course. Because enough wealth is just never enough.
It's because he doesn't want Mexico. He wants their people to stop coming, but he doesn't want the actual country. He literally wants Canada (and Greenland) for resources. Well, Putin does and he told him to how to get it.
I think it's probably because we're trying to get some sort of agreement that doesn't involve a further "pause".
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So this is just Elon with the blue checkmark all over again.
Come in with a sledgehammer, thinking you can make everything better. Then make concession after concession until you just end up back at the blue checkmark.
We are just going to end up at the USMCA again.
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Just saw a short interview with Trudeau. He basically just said that negotiations are still on-going and that he and Trump’s phone call yesterday was “substantive”. But didn’t elaborate too much on what exactly was talked about.
There was another report I saw this morning that said our dairy market was discussed.
Patient to see how today and tomorrow unfold. Recall that the previous pause had Mexico announced a few hours before Canada. Almost out of logistical reasons.
So this is just Elon with the blue checkmark all over again.
Come in with a sledgehammer, thinking you can make everything better. Then make concession after concession until you just end up back at the blue checkmark.
We are just going to end up at the USMCA again.
Worth it to see Trump bragging about how much smarter and how much better he is at negotiating than the last moron who set up the USMCA agreement!
