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Old 12-17-2017, 06:49 PM   #1921
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Regardless of whether it was a catch or not, The Steelers blew it on the next play. Ben should have spiked the ball or handed it off, NE couldnt stop the run most of the night. Ben lost the game.
he intended to spike it but heard Hailey in his earpiece tell him to run the play.

All on the coaches at that point.
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Regardless of whether it was a catch or not, The Steelers blew it on the next play. Ben should have spiked the ball or handed it off, NE couldnt stop the run most of the night. Ben lost the game.
Handing it off? That was not an option. They wouldn't have time for another play if he was short of the end zone. The play was too panicked, though and at some point he should have probably thrown it away if he wasn't going to spike it for a field goal.
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Old 12-17-2017, 07:08 PM   #1923
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Ben Roethlisberger said he got word to run the goal-line play on third down instead of clock, via OC Todd Haley but "coming from the head guy." Then added, "Maybe that's on me, maybe I should have clocked it. I don't' know. We're not going to look back and second guess anything or anybody. We lost the game and I threw a pick at the end of the game to lose it."
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Old 12-17-2017, 08:04 PM   #1924
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You have to run a play.

OT is best case 50/50

The only bad thing that can happen is a pick, which from there probably happens as often as a missed FG from there.

Sure it happened, but the correct play is to go for the win.
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You have to run a play.

OT is best case 50/50

The only bad thing that can happen is a pick, which from there probably happens as often as a missed FG from there.

Sure it happened, but the correct play is to go for the win.
Just like the stamps, play to win.
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Old 12-17-2017, 08:22 PM   #1926
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Well you run a play sure, but like the Seahawks in SB49 if you do throw there, don't throw it in the middle of the field, the highest traffic area. Throw a fade that only your guy can get.
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Old 12-17-2017, 08:27 PM   #1927
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You have to run a play.

OT is best case 50/50

The only bad thing that can happen is a pick, which from there probably happens as often as a missed FG from there.

Sure it happened, but the correct play is to go for the win.
A sack or bobbled snap would have lost the game too. So would a penalty with a run off. It was all too rushed and looked like disaster from the start of the play.
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Old 12-17-2017, 08:29 PM   #1928
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A sack or bobbled snap would have lost the game too. So would a penalty with a run off. It was all too rushed and looked like disaster from the start of the play.
This. No one else even ran a route other than Eli Rogers, letting the Pats crowd the middle where the only receiver was. It was a train wreck of a play.
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Old 12-17-2017, 08:53 PM   #1929
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hmm a challenge ... is this a Raiders catch? Defender tackles receiver, ball hits ground.
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Well you run a play sure, but like the Seahawks in SB49 if you do throw there, don't throw it in the middle of the field, the highest traffic area. Throw a fade that only your guy can get.
I still think that was the right call there too. Look below, Browner holds up the receiver there so Butler has a clearer path the ball. If the receiver jams browner harder, butler takes two more steps and gets beat. Sometimes people just make great plays.





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Old 12-17-2017, 09:26 PM   #1931
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Hahah I have never seen that before. An index card to determine a first down.
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Old 12-17-2017, 09:26 PM   #1932
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Viva la XFL, no one can think this is going to work this time do they?
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Old 12-17-2017, 09:44 PM   #1933
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What a way to lose.
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Old 12-17-2017, 09:45 PM   #1934
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Hahahaha oh man that’s a tough way to lose a game after being gifted 55 yards. Whoops.
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Old 12-17-2017, 09:45 PM   #1935
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Super dumb play by Carr.
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Tough way to lose a game but its hard to blame a guy for trying to make a play to win it.
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Maybe if the Raiders paid Carr a bit more money he could have held onto that ball. Oh well better luck next year!
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Tough way to lose a game but its hard to blame a guy for trying to make a play to win it.
Plays like that kill teams - like the Stamps in the Grey Cup. No need to fight for the extra yard. Plenty of time left - protect the ball above all else, until there is no time left. It was an unnecessary risk.
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Old 12-17-2017, 11:06 PM   #1939
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Thank God for Heath. Cowboys almost let that one slip away
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I still think that was the right call there too. Look below, Browner holds up the receiver there so Butler has a clearer path the ball. If the receiver jams browner harder, butler takes two more steps and gets beat. Sometimes people just make great plays.





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I would imagine you are one of the 75-100 people in the world who still don't think this was the worst play call in league (and possibly sports) history. So always nice to find something very rare. Throwing in the middle of the field brings in one variable that throwing to the outside doesn't: batted and tipped balls. Even if the receiver got clean inside, a lineman could have tipped the passed or batted it in the air and then the worst case scenario is in play. On a fade or quick out, not so much. It will always be a monumentally horrific play call, and considering the Seahawks window appears to be all but shut, it should make Seahawks fans angrier that they'll only get one Super Bowl out of this team.
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