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Old 05-22-2014, 11:24 AM   #1921
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We don't want the Officers info lost overnight, which is becoming increasingly likely.
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Old 05-22-2014, 11:24 AM   #1922
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Sorry no, it was to Rathji. I am a vanilla townsperson, not the cop.
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Old 05-22-2014, 11:29 AM   #1923
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We should all remember that the Officer is still alive and that they should have at this point a fairly extensive list of whom is town.

With 14 people left, if the officer gives us their list of known identities - we then sacrifice the officer for to ensure our info is correct. Say he gives us 5 towns people, then we sacrifice the officer - we have 8 people remaining and 4 mafia. Much better odds. Officer might even have more info.
The only problem with that is that some of the people the cop might have checked could already be dead. I think, if I understand what he does.
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Old 05-22-2014, 11:33 AM   #1924
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We don't want the Officers info lost overnight, which is becoming increasingly likely.

Interesting is this your way of saying you are the cop
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Old 05-22-2014, 11:33 AM   #1925
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We should all remember that the Officer is still alive and that they should have at this point a fairly extensive list of whom is town.

With 14 people left, if the officer gives us their list of known identities - we then sacrifice the officer for to ensure our info is correct. Say he gives us 5 towns people, then we sacrifice the officer - we have 8 people remaining and 4 mafia. Much better odds. Officer might even have more info.
You can't help yourself. Another plan that seems like it came from a mobster trying to strike a deal.
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Old 05-22-2014, 11:37 AM   #1926
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Does anyone know the vote count(s)?
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Old 05-22-2014, 11:37 AM   #1927
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Ok, so I have a few minutes before I hit the road for the afternoon and want to make my case. I understand that this is based off evidence brought forth by Starseed, but nothing I have seen since that point has indicated to me otherwise, but has further served to solidify my opinion.

My original post, post starseed lynch:

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpos...postcount=1548

I am just copying the contents of that post here, so if it seems familar, thats why. Will save on retyping.

CaptainCrunch
If I was mafia and playing it like starseed did, I would actually try and play (and think) like a townie so I would be able to pull the big deception like he did. That means targetting someone you actually think is mafia (obviously Barrow in this case). He would have had help with other mafia to develop his theory, which is why his final posts were in such detail. An added bonus to this is that he would have an advantage picking out Barrow mafia since he was able to automatically remove his own team from the list. Because of this, I suspect that his accusation against CaptainCrunch isn't nessecarily something to be disregarded, because if he dies and flips mafia before starseed does, he looks like a hero and directs attention away from himself. Everything he said made a lot of sense.

To briefly summarize:
- Started on Agulati (expanded upon by me, here - http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpos...postcount=1521)
- Potential connection to Completely
- Potential hints to other mafia
- Other general odd posts

(complete posting here - http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpos...postcount=1514)

addtionally, other things brought up by other posters:


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CaptainCrunch seems to be entirely sidetracked and focusing on the wrong things all game. He's too clueless to be Mafia. That is my opinion at least.
Here, he doesn't say that CC is mafia, but he points out that he seems clueless. One thing I know about CC is he never appears clueless, even if he is wrong. Since then, he has continued with the baseless accusations posting of little content. Doesn't scream town to me.

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Fine, We need to see what Starseed is, it opens some things up in terms of who to go after next if he flips up mob.

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Here, CC hammered starseed. His hammer to try and stop the accusations of starseed is telling. I wonder if he fully suspected starseed as mafia as well, and thought it would clear him in the process. Since this time, CC has attacked me and tried to start a vote against me in hopes that it would derail my accusations. One more tactic being reused to stay alive.

Finally, today. We have the whole Baxter situation, where he should have died over night, completely independent of if he was telling the truth or not. If he was lying and was actually mafia, the other mafia would still kill him, unless they wanted to use the situation to sow dissension in the town.

The best result for the mafia is not to kill the Dr, which hasn't been overly useful all game, because it is hard as hell to figure out who is town, but to let him live and hopefully push their own agenda and have us lynch him ourselves.

The hammer on CBL was given by himself, but Completely threw out the final vote just before that. By itself, it doesn't mean anything, but CC then points out that it is the hammer. Again, another connection between CC and Completely.

This post, is another, trying to push CC theory:

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I think CC just might have thrown himself to the wolves, But he has done some pretty good detective work. CC might be wrong with Agulati but at least he noticed the fault. And now Legoman has been acting funny and drawing attention to himself. I think that if the doctors out there we should keep CC in this, He's been actually helping figure out who's who. Not just wasting time slinging mud seeing if it sticks.
And now, this series of posts to start the day that have them both pushing the theory that somehow Baxter is suspicious because he didn't get killed:

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Lego is suspicious and has been quieting down his act and settling into the weeds. I find it odd that the mafia didn't kill Baxter even though he claims to be the doctor.

I still stand by my reasoning that Lego is dirty.

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Anyone else extremely uncomfortable with the fact that Baxter is still alive after telling everyone hes the doctor? I know its pure speculation and we cant tell who each other are but it makes me a little uneasy. It's hard after CBL was so adamant that there was something wrong and no one really listened. Then he kills himself and flips town and For Bax not to die from a nightkill and then for Parker to have one left as well. I feel like we should all make a top 3 of who we think is suspicious. That way we have an idea of what direction we should go.
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Lego - I've explained his suspicious posts and actions multiple times
Baxter - more around the fact that he wasn't night killed.
I'm torn on the third one I need to go back tomorrow night and look at HG15 and Strombad again.
My list for mafia is now

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Old 05-22-2014, 11:39 AM   #1928
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Just to clarify, just the existence of this connection between CaptainCrunch and Completely is enough to give serious evidence that they are mafia, since obviously no one else can communicate.
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Old 05-22-2014, 11:40 AM   #1929
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Does anyone know the vote count(s)?
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Old 05-22-2014, 11:41 AM   #1930
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One more thing I forgot to include in my post is that CC has kind of backed away from active discussion the past few days, which makes sense if he is trying to shed the limelight cast by starseeds accusations.
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Old 05-22-2014, 11:49 AM   #1931
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You can't help yourself. Another plan that seems like it came from a mobster trying to strike a deal.
So what? We'll just wait until the Officer gets killed overnight one of these days, losing that information?

WHat A USefuL RolE that IS!11! (/sarcasm)

Kill me along with the officer if you want to narrow down the amount of potential Mafia. The officer role has to be used at some point.
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Old 05-22-2014, 11:52 AM   #1932
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Interesting is this your way of saying you are the cop
He would be crazy to reveal if he was. That being said if he is hinting he is the cop we would be stupid to lynch him now. Why take the chance when there are better targets out there. I am currently voting saillias but if we want to go after CC instead I am game. Rathji did make some very good points there.
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Old 05-22-2014, 11:54 AM   #1933
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So what? We'll just wait until the Officer gets killed overnight one of these days, losing that information?

WHat A USefuL RolE that IS!11! (/sarcasm)

Kill me along with the officer if you want to narrow down the amount of potential Mafia. The officer role has to be used at some point.
But that point imo is too early right now, we are only at day 6 which means he has only been able to check 5 people. If he gets killed that really sucks but I think we need the cop if possible for at least a few more days to win the game.
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Old 05-22-2014, 11:56 AM   #1934
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Pretty shocked everyone is glossing over the link with dissentowner/transplant, bizaro, starseed, and CofR. I'm not sure why dissentowner is getting a free pass just because he is taking over for someone who wasn't very active, which has no bearing on his allegiance.
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Old 05-22-2014, 12:00 PM   #1935
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Pretty shocked everyone is glossing over the link with dissentowner/transplant, bizaro, starseed, and CofR. I'm not sure why dissentowner is getting a free pass just because he is taking over for someone who wasn't very active, which has no bearing on his allegiance.
Did you not read my last post? If I was mafia I would be on board with the cop revealing himself and giving us not only him but a buffet of towns people. You are barking up the wrong tree. Also, if I was mafia and you are so adamant you are town why would I have not just stayed on my vote for you? Give your head a shake man!
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Old 05-22-2014, 12:02 PM   #1936
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So what? We'll just wait until the Officer gets killed overnight one of these days, losing that information?

WHat A USefuL RolE that IS!11! (/sarcasm)

Kill me along with the officer if you want to narrow down the amount of potential Mafia. The officer role has to be used at some point.
I think he's doing a good job keeping on the lowdown, only we haven't been good at following him. Yet.
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Old 05-22-2014, 12:07 PM   #1937
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Did you not read my last post? If I was mafia I would be on board with the cop revealing himself and giving us not only him but a buffet of towns people. You are barking up the wrong tree. Also, if I was mafia and you are so adamant you are town why would I have not just stayed on my vote for you? Give your head a shake man!
Your last post about the cop has nothing to do with your link with the 3 other members of the Parker mafia.

You didn't vote for me because you are trying to fade into the background. You unvote me then vote for sillias again (a person no one else is voting for) because you are waiting to jump on the lynch train so you can blend in again.
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You're afraid that if you vote for me and it catches on and I get lynched then you will be a target tomorrow after I flip town.
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You're afraid that if you vote for me and it catches on and I get lynched then you will be a target tomorrow after I flip town.
lmao, you are too funny! If you are a townie you sure are not on our side or you are just extremely bad at playing this game. Yes, rather than getting the cop who is a major key to the town winning and a reveal of a bunch of townies I am fading into the background to save myself. That sounds realistic. I am not afraid of voting for you and you flipping town and myself becoming a target, I am afraid I vote for you and you flip town and we lose another town person because as crazy as you are I am not sure who's side you are actually on.
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and kermitology/sillias has been high on many lists for quite awhile now, not sure where you are going there.
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