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Old 04-13-2018, 11:49 AM   #1921
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And to add to this, I don't think anyone wants to see debates about players being an inch offside. The sheer silliness of the NHL reviews has just cemented that one for me. Players who are literally a few mm offside aren't ruining the game; the idiocy of holding up goal celebrations and enjoyment because of reviews and the quest for perfection are.

I would be onside with VAR if it was only used for egregious errors. Unfortunately though, it's not. It's been used in scenarios where there is nothing appearing egregious at all, and you're watching a game with no idea what they're even reviewing. Even after a VAR decision is made there is no explanation of what took place, why the decision was made or anything...it's just crazy.

And yeah, the world cup is using this. I can only imagine the outcry if the implementation is similar to what we have seen so far in the FA Cup.
I agree, and this is the thing for me though, I like the use of it in Rugby where the ref can go to the VAR and they have no problems calling off a try or awarding a penalty.

Big calls are part of the deal.

Whereas in soccer the players on the field would go ballistic and crucify the ref.
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I agree, and this is the thing for me though, I like the use of it in Rugby where the ref can go to the VAR and they have no problems calling off a try or awarding a penalty.

Big calls are part of the deal.

Whereas in soccer the players on the field would go ballistic and crucify the ref.
Psychologically intimidating and conning the ref are part of soccer culture. David gets one over on Goliath. Or the big teams get all the calls.
Soccer is sometimes played moreso in the press than on the field. Controversy sells.

It is not in rugby.
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Old 04-13-2018, 12:44 PM   #1923
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Psychologically intimidating and conning the ref are part of soccer culture. David gets one over on Goliath. Or the big teams get all the calls.
Soccer is sometimes played moreso in the press than on the field. Controversy sells.

It is not in rugby.
Part of this is because in rugby respect of the official is demanded and ingrained. You could get the same thing in soccer by carding players ruthlessly for any dissent. That’s how it works in rugby, and nothing shuts up yappy players faster than a penalty or two and his teammates telling him to pipe down.
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Not only was this not red, it wasn't even a card. English refs gonna English ref

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Liverpool beat Bournemouth after a huge Champions' League win? What team is this?

Mo Salah, Mo Problems!
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City helping out Liverpool!

Although I dont know why they didnt let Kane take that penalty.
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Eriksen makes it 2-1....you think Kane lets him keep that one or he did he touch that one too?
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Perfect time for City to decide to win a game.

And Salah got one to pull farther ahead of 'Arry. Even with his ill-gotten penalties and teammates' goals.
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It's been like a week and I'm already sick of all the Harry Kane jokes. Time and place please, they will be funny when appropriate, not after every goal. Also it occurred to me watching the last couple City games, that as great as they are going forward, Jesus and Sterling waste so many chances that they could be even more dominant offensively with more clinical finishing. Swap them for Firminho and Salah and that would be ridiculously terrifying.
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It's been like a week and I'm already sick of all the Harry Kane jokes. Time and place please, they will be funny when appropriate, not after every goal. Also it occurred to me watching the last couple City games, that as great as they are going forward, Jesus and Sterling waste so many chances that they could be even more dominant offensively with more clinical finishing. Swap them for Firminho and Salah and that would be ridiculously terrifying.
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Well I thought it was kind of lame to pursue, but at the same time the FA obviously agreed that he touched it and it's his goal. It's basically a non-event at this point?

I don't really care one way or the other about the jokes, but I did hate Jim Beglin making that comment after Eriksen scored yesterday. That's not out of the ordinary though, I generally dislike his "input".
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Well I thought it was kind of lame to pursue, but at the same time the FA obviously agreed that he touched it and it's his goal. It's basically a non-event at this point?

I don't really care one way or the other about the jokes, but I did hate Jim Beglin making that comment after Eriksen scored yesterday. That's not out of the ordinary though, I generally dislike his "input".
The English FA taking the goal away from a Dane and giving it to England's starting striker months before the start of the World Cup?

No.....say it isnt so!

It is a non-event, absolutely. But obviously even his England teammates (Henderson) are taking the piss out of him for it.

Its just so childish. So yeah, hes going to get made fun of.
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Well I thought it was kind of lame to pursue, but at the same time the FA obviously agreed that he touched it and it's his goal. It's basically a non-event at this point?

I don't really care one way or the other about the jokes, but I did hate Jim Beglin making that comment after Eriksen scored yesterday. That's not out of the ordinary though, I generally dislike his "input".
Now, celebrate the fact that Newcastle just beat Arsenal. That, at least, should brighten your day.
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Now, celebrate the fact that Newcastle just beat Arsenal. That, at least, should brighten your day.
Lol, believe me it does! I was disappointed with the outcome from yesterday, so at least there is something to enjoy. Where are all the "power shift" comments we saw from November this season though?
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Never thought I'd say it, but I'd somehow be kind of okay with Wenger winning the EL to go out with some kind of dignity. Never going to happen though.
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Lol, believe me it does! I was disappointed with the outcome from yesterday, so at least there is something to enjoy. Where are all the "power shift" comments we saw from November this season though?
From United to City?

And I wouldnt be too disappointed in yesterday's result. City are better than most teams right now. Just not Liverpool.

We're better than City, obviously, but just not as rich deep.
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Never thought I'd say it, but I'd somehow be kind of okay with Wenger winning the EL to go out with some kind of dignity. Never going to happen though.
I've never really disliked Wenger, I've always viewed him as something of a cautionary tale.

He came into the League as the smartest guy in the room, but then everyone learned and adapted and caught up but he never innovated.

Hes a good manager, but hes not a great manager.

Its like he had a schtick and then when everyone caught on it stopped working and now hes throwing darts at a board and hoping and praying.

Adapt and survive or stagnate and die.
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I've never really disliked Wenger, I've always viewed him as something of a cautionary tale.

He came into the League as the smartest guy in the room, but then everyone learned and adapted and caught up but he never innovated.

Hes a good manager, but hes not a great manager.

Its like he had a schtick and then when everyone caught on it stopped working and now hes throwing darts at a board and hoping and praying.

Adapt and survive or stagnate and die.
agreed.

I've got a lot of respect for him. I feel he's the last one of a dying breed - the long-term manager who is able to stay at one club for a long period of time. I consider that an impressive feat, given how quickly things change in football and how many coaches (have to) go to new clubs every other year.

Obviously he should have retired/left the club a long time ago. Still, I respect him and feel he deserves more than all the salt and vinegar. Brought it on himself though, without a doubt.
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agreed.

I've got a lot of respect for him. I feel he's the last one of a dying breed - the long-term manager who is able to stay at one club for a long period of time. I consider that an impressive feat, given how quickly things change in football and how many coaches (have to) go to new clubs every other year.

Obviously he should have retired/left the club a long time ago. Still, I respect him and feel he deserves more than all the salt and vinegar. Brought it on himself though, without a doubt.
Yeah. Definitely.

I'd have gone out with a bang and not a whimper.

He could be managing France right now.

If I had to choose between Arsenal and France there would be a cartoonish outline of me in London because I left for Paris so fast.
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