01-07-2026, 11:01 AM
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#19341
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2004
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Originally Posted by Sec214
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Both gifs feature a lot of green so clearly Dallas is back.
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01-07-2026, 11:01 AM
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#19342
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Franchise Player
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Trade both of them.
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01-07-2026, 11:03 AM
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#19343
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Two Fivenagame
Both gifs feature a lot of green so clearly Dallas is back.
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01-07-2026, 11:04 AM
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#19344
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Scoring Winger
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Trade all three before the end of the month and embrace the suck
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01-07-2026, 11:05 AM
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#19345
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Sec214
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Clown?? Oilers are in on Ras???
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01-07-2026, 11:06 AM
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#19346
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
Like Vinny, you’re struggling with timelines and some of the realities of team building here. We can pretend that Calgary is in the same position as San Jose so their decisions should be the same, or that the cost to acquire a 24 year old defenceman and a 29 year old defenceman of the same quality are the same, or that once teams have drafted/acquired a young core of 5-6 players then they sit on their hands for 8 years and wait until it works out. But you know, at the end of the day, none of those things are actually true.
San Jose can’t just acquire a 24 yo top 3 D without gutting their roster (which comes with its own risks). But they can acquire a 29 yo top 3 D on an expiring contract and get 6-7 years (or more) of quality hockey out of it, fitting their desire to compete for a cup for 3 or 4 of those years.
Fantasy is fun but NHL teams have to operate in reality.
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Dobson was acquired for 2 first round picks, which is apparently what Conroy wants for Andersson.
And you are assuming Andersson can give you 6-7 years of quality hockey. If Calgary felt that, they would resign him. He was terrible last year, much better this year.
Plus you are assuming Andersson wants to sign in San Jose.
I have never said that they should or would sit on their hands for 8 years. But if they are going to gut their roster. a 30 year old dman who's play over the last two years hansn't been consistent may not be a wise investment.
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01-07-2026, 11:06 AM
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#19347
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
on TSN Lebrun said he is hearing the major contenders want to wait to make their major moves until after the Olympics because a) in case the player they trade for gets injured at the olympics and b) in case their own player(s) get injured at the Olympics and they need to switch focus on trade targets
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Makes sense. I understand the sellers (eg. Calgary with Andersson) wanting the trade done before the Olympics for the same reason. Would be a huge missed opportunity if Andersson was injured in the Olympics. But it’s tough to force a team to put their best offer forward early… the best Conroy could do is tell the other GMs that he’s going to take the best offer available by January 31st so, that is their deadline to make him a good offer. Tough part is that teams might consider it a bluff and not put their best offer forward. Conroy could end up taking a return that’s much less than he wanted in that case.
For example, what if the best offer by January 31st is a late 1st round pick + 4th round pick? Would be tough at this point if that is all he returned. All season the debate has been weighing the cost of the flames own draft pick being worsened by keeping Andersson on the team versus the cost of trading Andersson early for a lesser return. If the flames continue to play well between now and the end of January (largely because of Andersson) and end up rising up the standings and then he is traded for just a late 1st round pick + 4th round pick… I think there will be some frustration from some fans. If the return ends up being really good then I think it can be justified in keeping Andersson this long.
I trust that Conroy will get a good return for Andersson either way. Would like to see it done sooner rather than later so that the team and Andersson can move on. Would also like to open a spot on the roster so both Parekh and Brz can play significant minutes down the stretch.
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01-07-2026, 11:10 AM
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#19348
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Calgary
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Hot Tea - market is hot, price is steep. Frog-->Pond, Ducks also live in ponds... Ducks steep tea in hot market... wait... I've lost it.
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01-07-2026, 11:11 AM
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#19349
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Sec214
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Schmidt, Hemming, Bourque, 2027 1st. All things I like.
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01-07-2026, 11:13 AM
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#19350
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by ComixZone
Schmidt, Hemming, Bourque, 2027 1st. All things I like.
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+Bischel.
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01-07-2026, 11:13 AM
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#19351
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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I like hemming. Big bodied RHS. We could use that for sure.
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01-07-2026, 11:13 AM
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#19352
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by The Cobra
Dobson was acquired for 2 first round picks, which is apparently what Conroy wants for Andersson.
And you are assuming Andersson can give you 6-7 years of quality hockey. If Calgary felt that, they would resign him. He was terrible last year, much better this year.
Plus you are assuming Andersson wants to sign in San Jose.
I have never said that they should or would sit on their hands for 8 years. But if they are going to gut their roster. a 30 year old dman who's play over the last two years hansn't been consistent may not be a wise investment.
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The Sharks aren’t in the same spot as the Flames. I don’t think they trade for Andersson but it wouldn’t totally shock me. Who is the Dobson they are going to trade for? I doubt they want to wait 3-4 years for their RD to get sorted.
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01-07-2026, 11:15 AM
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#19353
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by stemit14
Makes sense. I understand the sellers (eg. Calgary with Andersson) wanting the trade done before the Olympics for the same reason. Would be a huge missed opportunity if Andersson was injured in the Olympics. But it’s tough to force a team to put their best offer forward early… the best Conroy could do is tell the other GMs that he’s going to take the best offer available by January 31st so, that is their deadline to make him a good offer. Tough part is that teams might consider it a bluff and not put their best offer forward. Conroy could end up taking a return that’s much less than he wanted in that case.
For example, what if the best offer by January 31st is a late 1st round pick + 4th round pick? Would be tough at this point if that is all he returned. All season the debate has been weighing the cost of the flames own draft pick being worsened by keeping Andersson on the team versus the cost of trading Andersson early for a lesser return. If the flames continue to play well between now and the end of January (largely because of Andersson) and end up rising up the standings and then he is traded for just a late 1st round pick + 4th round pick… I think there will be some frustration from some fans. If the return ends up being really good then I think it can be justified in keeping Andersson this long.
I trust that Conroy will get a good return for Andersson either way. Would like to see it done sooner rather than later so that the team and Andersson can move on. Would also like to open a spot on the roster so both Parekh and Brz can play significant minutes down the stretch.
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This. Selling teams will want to trade before the Olympics. But buyers will withhold their best offers until after the Olympics, when they know that the player has not been injured during the Olympic break, after they have accumulated additional cap space during the break, and when they have assessed whether anything that happened during the break (injuries to their own players) has impacted their needs.
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01-07-2026, 11:15 AM
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#19354
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Jason14h
If Anderson is too old for the sharks why are we keeping Weegar around?
They are ahead of us on their schedule and Anderson is younger . I don’t think SJ is worried right now about what Anderson contract looks like in 8.5 years from now
I don’t think they make a trade for him (I think they would 100% be all over him as a UFA) but he’s certainly in a realistic age range for their stage for a D that’s actually avail
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That is the gamble though. Last summer everyone talked about how their various teams were going to go hard after Marner on July 1st but Vegas traded for his rights before UFA day and then he was off the board with an 8 year contract and all of the other teams were out of luck and looking for consolation prizes.
If the Sharks wait for Andersson to get to July 1st then I believe they will strike out. There is a huge advantage for a 29 year old to get a 8 year contract over a 7 year contract.
Andersson needs to threaten to walk to UFA in order to get serious offers from GMs but he knows that the 8 year deal will give him more career earnings than 7. There is very little chance he is going to get a huge contract in his late 30s to make up for losing a year off this contract.
The consolation prizes for missing out on Andersson this year are pretty bleak and I bet a few of them sign extensions before July 1.
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01-07-2026, 11:15 AM
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#19355
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Monahammer
They've "picked a direction" like driftwood hitting rapids does.
Many of us would prefer they actually pilot the boat down river.
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Not sure I agree, but then you know that.
Moving a host of veterans.
Acquiring a bunch of draft capital
Picking twice in the first round for three straight years.
Sitting on cap space.
Not acquiring any help at the deadline or the summer.
Pretty clear direction to me.
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01-07-2026, 11:16 AM
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#19356
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Originally Posted by The Cobra
Dobson was acquired for 2 first round picks, which is apparently what Conroy wants for Andersson.
And you are assuming Andersson can give you 6-7 years of quality hockey. If Calgary felt that, they would resign him. He was terrible last year, much better this year.
Plus you are assuming Andersson wants to sign in San Jose.
I have never said that they should or would sit on their hands for 8 years. But if they are going to gut their roster. a 30 year old dman who's play over the last two years hansn't been consistent may not be a wise investment.
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2 first mid-round picks and the 23 year old who is currently their top line RW.
Maybe the Sharks can wait until another 24/25 year old defenceman asks for a trade and then they can ship out two 1sts and Eklund for him.
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01-07-2026, 11:16 AM
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#19357
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
+Bischel.
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Most definitely. I’d be super stoked, I just always look at teams pushing for cups and think…would they subtract that? Bourque I could see, Bischel is tougher to pull away. If Bischel ends up as part of it, I think it speaks to how hot of a commodity Andersson is.
Bischel looks like he’ll resume skating at the end of this month. Just looking back at that Marktrom trade and the conversation around Mercer - Bischel, for me, falls into that Mercer territory of “unlikely” but would be cool.
Bischel would finish the LHD build.
Bahl
Bischel
Kuznetsov
That’s pretty nicely put together.
Last edited by ComixZone; 01-07-2026 at 11:19 AM.
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01-07-2026, 11:20 AM
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#19358
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Given other trades Conroy has made I suspect whatever prospect we get back from whatever team, will be someone 90% of us has never heard of or thought of.
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01-07-2026, 11:22 AM
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#19359
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First Line Centre
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Bischel would be such a compliment to Parekh
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01-07-2026, 11:24 AM
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#19360
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Participant 
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Originally Posted by Toonage
Given other trades Conroy has made I suspect whatever prospect we get back from whatever team, will be someone 90% of us has never heard of or thought of.
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Which is kind of nice. Imagine if we’d received Holtz instead of Bahl? Yikes.
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