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Old 01-07-2026, 08:01 AM   #19321
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If a team like the Sharks signs Andersson, I think they do so knowing the last year or so is probably not good value, but it’s worth it to get the first 6. We all said that when Gio signed his “big” contract at age 33. And it was correct.
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Old 01-07-2026, 08:06 AM   #19322
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Why it took so long, how the offer was on the table months ago, how the final return was no better than what they could have got a few months earlier. There will be things to talk about.

We can also circle back to some old favourites like Murray ties Craig’s hands or the fiction that Kadri would have waived his NMC last year. There will always be things to talk about.
You mean complain about?
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Old 01-07-2026, 08:17 AM   #19323
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What are we going to talk about when it finally does happen?
Clearly the focus will be on when Coleman or Kadri are traded and that could be exhausting considering the team really doesn't need to trade either of them this season.
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Old 01-07-2026, 08:18 AM   #19324
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https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/article/canuc...o-months-away/

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The Vancouver Canucks let it be known earlier this season that the team was open for business on their pending unrestricted free agents, but it appears their mindset has shifted on winger Kiefer Sherwood.

TSN Hockey Insider Chris Johnston reports that the Canucks are currently focused on whether Sherwood, who is drawing trade interest amid a career year, can be extended.
The Canucks who are actually rebuilding and said so in a statement are getting to work on the rebuild.
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Old 01-07-2026, 09:10 AM   #19325
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The pics lead to numerous garbage pages. Consider it the horse. Not the cart.
Just leave it.

Even if you believe it's complete crap ... leave it.

It diverts the conversation in a rumour thread to rumours. It serves a purpose even if you don't think there's any truth to it.

Poking at it diverts the subject away from the rumours and into the jealousy of some posters about attention given to some that they don't feel deserves it.

That's not a win.
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Old 01-07-2026, 09:14 AM   #19326
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The Canucks who are actually rebuilding and said so in a statement are getting to work on the rebuild.
I still think he is gone and this is media speak. I think they are just getting low ball offers and resetting the conversation, just like we did with Lindholm a month before he got traded.
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What are we going to talk about when it finally does happen?
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Old 01-07-2026, 09:19 AM   #19328
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What are we going to talk about when it finally does happen?
Andersson is a trade you are forced to make, it doesn't really mean anything.

The real question is will the Flames be proactive and trade some aging vets while their value is at its highest. Or will they choose to do nothing and not pick a direction.
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What you are saying makes sense, but only if the dman they are acquiring is much younger. Andersson is simply too old to be safely investing an 8 year contract in. If he wasn't, Calgary would resign him.

Is Andersson in his prime? He is certainly playing well this year, but wasn't last year. How many years like this one does he have left? That's a guess for player in his 30's when his next contract kicks in.

SJ certainly needs a dman like Andersson, but one in his mid 20's. He's not the correct trade target. And this is assuming Andersson would sign an extension.
Like Vinny, you’re struggling with timelines and some of the realities of team building here. We can pretend that Calgary is in the same position as San Jose so their decisions should be the same, or that the cost to acquire a 24 year old defenceman and a 29 year old defenceman of the same quality are the same, or that once teams have drafted/acquired a young core of 5-6 players then they sit on their hands for 8 years and wait until it works out. But you know, at the end of the day, none of those things are actually true.

San Jose can’t just acquire a 24 yo top 3 D without gutting their roster (which comes with its own risks). But they can acquire a 29 yo top 3 D on an expiring contract and get 6-7 years (or more) of quality hockey out of it, fitting their desire to compete for a cup for 3 or 4 of those years.

Fantasy is fun but NHL teams have to operate in reality.
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Old 01-07-2026, 09:23 AM   #19330
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Andersson is a trade you are forced to make, it doesn't really mean anything.

The real question is will the Flames be proactive and trade some aging vets while their value is at its highest. Or will they choose to do nothing and not pick a direction.
They've picked a direction.

You're hoping they expedite or lean into the direction they've picked.
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They've picked a direction.

You're hoping they expedite or lean into the direction they've picked.
They've "picked a direction" like driftwood hitting rapids does.

Many of us would prefer they actually pilot the boat down river.
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They've "picked a direction" like driftwood hitting rapids does.

Many of us would prefer they actually pilot the boat down river.
I wouldn't call third last in the NHL drifting along.
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Old 01-07-2026, 10:25 AM   #19333
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I think the Flames/Conroy have picked a direction and have an idea of what they want to do. What's rustling everyone's Jimmies is the fact that they haven't come out and shared it with us. And they have been very tight lipped and not really leaked much to anyone outside the organization.

It leaves us to speculate and complain like we have been in this thread all year because we haven't been provided a clear statement from the team. Instead we're left to deduce what's going on based on actions over the last season or two - if you look at that is seems pretty clear.

I actually like what we've been doing. No big free agent mistakes on July 1, keeping our picks instead of trading them away, and then solid drafting with those picks. Not letting guys walk for nothing, and making some solid adds will pay off in the long run. I'd love a top 3 pick as much as anyone, but you can't just burn it to the ground and expect players to continue to compete. You need guys like Kadri to set the example otherwise we end up like the clowns up north during their decade of darkness.
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No, Kadri!

Let us argue about which one from now until then!

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Old 01-07-2026, 10:35 AM   #19335
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SEC214 , if a trade ever does happen and it plays out exactly as expected, do you ever go back and reveal what the Gifs actually meant? that would be fun in hindsight. We could then analyse your gifs like a predictive learning model and actually learn your thought process and play along next trade.
It never plays out as expected, I'm a few blocks behind the MSM insiders as previously stated before. I have been wrong in the past and will be wrong in the future and even if I am correct or FIRST E5. I still wont get credit but I do not look for that satisfaction.

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Old 01-07-2026, 10:35 AM   #19336
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Another day. A new picture is posted. Nothing happens. Just another day the trade thread is trolled.
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Old 01-07-2026, 10:45 AM   #19337
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on TSN Lebrun said he is hearing the major contenders want to wait to make their major moves until after the Olympics because a) in case the player they trade for gets injured at the olympics and b) in case their own player(s) get injured at the Olympics and they need to switch focus on trade targets
Is the risk of a player getting hurt during the Olympic break any different than the risk of being hurt during the regular season between January and the trade deadline?
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What you are saying makes sense, but only if the dman they are acquiring is much younger. Andersson is simply too old to be safely investing an 8 year contract in. If he wasn't, Calgary would resign him.

Is Andersson in his prime? He is certainly playing well this year, but wasn't last year. How many years like this one does he have left? That's a guess for player in his 30's when his next contract kicks in.

SJ certainly needs a dman like Andersson, but one in his mid 20's. He's not the correct trade target. And this is assuming Andersson would sign an extension.
No, the Sharks do not need a "much younger" Dman. They specifically need a proven top pair D, specifically RD, who can step into the role immediately this season. Ideally they need this D to hold down the job for 5 years while they draft and develop another RD who may (or may not) have top pair potential. It will get harder and harder for them to draft the talent they need as their 1st round picks move from top 5 to the teens or twenties.

Very few D who are 25 (mid 20s) are proven top pair players. Only the exceptional ones like Makar, Fox, Seider break out that early and when they do they are almost never available for trade. It isn't until they get closer to their UFA years that there might be a chance to acquire one of them but typically they will get extended (see Ekblad). Andersson is one of the few established top pair RD available (maybe the only one depending on how you view the alternatives).

To answer your question: Yes, it is safe to assume that Andersson will maintain this play for at least 5 years, especially on a stronger team that is built to win instead of how the Flames are built. D usually hit their prime later than forwards and hold on into their mid 30s.

As I already said, it is more likely that Andersson can maintain his play from 29-35 than for Hamilton to maintain his play from 32-38. If Faulk is the other RD being looked at, he is 33 now and arguably the worst choice out of the 3.

The Sharks D group needs a lot of work. Most of their contracts expire this summer. Orlov has 1 more year (at age 35) and then they need to find another top 4 D to replace him. They need their prospects to hit but they also need immediate upgrades to support the team in the near term.

If GMMG doesn't get aggressive with fixing his D group then he is going to waste years of prime Celebrini / Smith / Eklund. And really, if he cheaps out and doesn't go for Andersson then I hope they fall on their face for the next 10 years as their talented players move on to other organizations (like Marner did to the Leafs).

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Not saying you are wrong but I doubt Anderson would sign an extension right now to go to sharks. I could see him signing with San Jose in off season after he explores all his options and nothing materializes with teams he wants to play for. Anderson is way too close to ufa status to just sign an extension with just any team right now . My guess his list is very short on teams he would do it for. I’ve given up on the extension trade. My guess he is traded as a rental.
We discussed this a few pages ago. I think if Andersson is offered somewhere around $9.5-10.5Mx8 then that would hit the number he is likely expected from free agency and getting an 8 year contract instead of 7 years has significant value on his career earnings.

The Sharks are one of the few teams able to offer that kind of contract right away and they have no other RD who would be competing for that spot or for that cap space. (I am guessing the LAK offer came in much lower because they have Clarke to consider)

If the Sharks make the move they can have that top 4 RD spot locked in for 9 years (maybe the last couple of years he is on the third pair), that is better than Faulk (1 year left on his contract) or Hamilton (2 years left).

There is a chance for it to work... and a big chance they chicken out and nothing happens between the Sharks and Flames. Dealing within the division is tricky.
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Is the risk of a player getting hurt during the Olympic break any different than the risk of being hurt during the regular season between January and the trade deadline?
I think the players GoS meter will be higher during the Olympics than the regular season - players will put themselves in higher risk positions.
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Old 01-07-2026, 10:58 AM   #19340
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If Anderson is too old for the sharks why are we keeping Weegar around?

They are ahead of us on their schedule and Anderson is younger . I don’t think SJ is worried right now about what Anderson contract looks like in 8.5 years from now

I don’t think they make a trade for him (I think they would 100% be all over him as a UFA) but he’s certainly in a realistic age range for their stage for a D that’s actually avail
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