2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[calgarybean]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

I can't imagine why he would want to come here.

Calaway Park?

[MrMike]

Brad gives up a first or he can get bent. I wouldn’t answer the phone from him unless it starts with a first. Done and over. I’d rather take a second from edmonton than a second from Brad.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by calgarybean

Calaway Park?

The answer is pocket dogs.

[Heavy Jack]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

I can't imagine why he would want to come here.

I mean, you could probably pay Phil in pocket dogs and they are good enough to convince him lol

Plus he and Kads were buds back in the day; give him a chance and maybe it turns into a 4th or 5th in a month?

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

The only reason he'd want to come here is if no other playoff team wants him. He said he still loves the game, so playing for the Flames is better than not playing at all.

I liked having Jagr here, and I think that having Kessel here for a stretch would be pretty awesome as well.

LandPhil!

[stemit14]

I know Friedman still mentions the leafs in being interested in Tanev but if it’s true they aren’t willing to give up their first round pick, then I just don’t see a fit.

A couple teams that are loaded up on skilled forwards that could use some big help on defence are Florida and Dallas. I could see both of them targeting Hanifin or Tanev.

Tanev I think could be a great fit for Dallas. The Stars have done some great drafting through the last few years and they are still high up in the standings so their first round pick could be outside the top 25… I could see them stepping up and offering their first round pick for Tanev. They have enough good young players in their system, they can afford to not make a pick in the first round this year.

While Hanifin would be a great fit for Florida, I just don’t see the draft picks left to make the trade. Their first round picks for the next 2-3 drafts are spoken for in other trades. And they don’t have any great prospects to take the place of a first round pick. Lundell is a decent young player but his value is much closer to a second round pick at this point. I don’t think that team can trade any more future first round picks.

[jg13]

I disagree with Lundells value there. Two years ago he put up 44 pts in 65 games as a 20 year old. This is EXACTLY the type of player Conroy should be targeting and if he is the center piece of a Hanifin trade I am all over it. Worth far more than a 2nd. If that was his value every team in the league would be ponying up.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by jg13

I disagree with Lundells value there. Two years ago he put up 44 pts in 65 games as a 20 year old. This is EXACTLY the type of player Conroy should be targeting and if he is the center piece of a Hanifin trade I am all over it. Worth far more than a 2nd. If that was his value every team in the league would be ponying up.

I wasn't very impressed with his game this season and this seems to confirm it.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1744062825276874922
EDIT: here's the newer card

https://twitter.com/user/status/1752442519474802921

I'd be curious to hear CaliFlamesFan's(our FLA insider) take on Lundell.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by bluejays

Conroy running a tight ship? lol. So many insiders here connected to the Flames. I don’t recall much coming from when Treliving was here. Conroy’s definitely involving many people in his decisions and it shows from the insiders on this board.

I don't think this is a sign that conroy is leaky. He only took over last off season and look what CP insiders have got from him before announcements. I don't mean any offense by that, and I appreciate to read what they're hearing, but when it comes to actual moves our insiders are as in the dark as traditional media, when a trade goes down.

Or at best onto details and rumblings that are already floating around with media insiders, online. I think insiders takes on the Flames ,CP and elsewhere are actually a testament to Conroy.

[jayswin]

I also believe Conroy is big on using media/sources/insiders to push confusion and narratives while negotiatiating/working trades. I love that. This isn't smiley, aw shucks, player Conroy. He's been ripening for this role for years.

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by RedHawk12

I'm looking at Florida for a deal involving Hanifin. Maybe Hanifin with an extension for Montour, Lundell and Sawchyn.

Then I'm looking at NJ for a deal involving Markstrom. For Casey, Holtz and 1st.

HockeyDB lists Casey at 5’9”.

[Fischy13]

I don’t know why anyone thinks the Flames should take back Vanicek in a trade with Jersey. The whole point it to dump one of our goaltenders to allow Wolf out of the AHL. I don’t see a point in getting Vanicek, you’d have to keep him, build him up to at best maybe flip him. We need Vladar and Wolf short term to get higher picks. It’s obvious imo, Markstrom needs to go with a top C the target. Marky for Mercer, and if you can fleece them grab their 1st. I don’t know who’d be upset at the 1 for 1. Retain to get the 1st added.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by bluejays

Conroy running a tight ship? lol. So many insiders here connected to the Flames. I don’t recall much coming from when Treliving was here. Conroy’s definitely involving many people in his decisions and it shows from the insiders on this board.

Really? I haven't seen anything that would indicate the Flames are leaky?

What have these "insiders" provided that has not come from the conjecture in the media? The "insiders" had nothing on the Zadorov trade. Completely missed it. The "insiders" also completely missed the Lindholm trade. That was broken hours early by a reddit user, but nothing here, not even a sniff of the players that could be involved that the media did not already beat to death. I've been quite surprised by Conroy being able to keep these deals under wraps considering the obvious list of players, just how many teams are involved, and how badly agents want to get their players moved. I haven't seen anything of consequence come from our "insiders" other than obvious proclamations and silly gifs. When one of them actually breaks something conclusively and with actual details, then I'll buy there is inside information and not just extrapolated conjecture that everyone makes. As it is, we know whose names are out there because of contract status or elevated level of play. That doesn't have to be leaked.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

I wasn't very impressed with his game this season and this seems to confirm it.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1744062825276874922
EDIT: here's the newer card

https://twitter.com/user/status/1752442519474802921

I'd be curious to hear CaliFlamesFan's(our FLA insider) take on Lundell.

I would do a version of the Bennett trade for Lundell and keep it separate from Hanifin

Lundell and a 6th round pick for the Calgary Flames 2nd round pick in 2025 and William Stromgren.

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

I would do a version of the Bennett trade for Lundell and keep it separate from Hanifin

Lundell and a 6th round pick for the Calgary Flames 2nd round pick in 2025 and William Stromgren.

I'm sure a pick and a prospect really warms Florida's heart while in a cup window. Lol.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

I wasn't very impressed with his game this season and this seems to confirm it.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1744062825276874922
EDIT: here's the newer card

https://twitter.com/user/status/1752442519474802921

I'd be curious to hear CaliFlamesFan's(our FLA insider) take on Lundell.

Originally Posted by Saqe

I'm sure a pick and a prospect really warms Florida's heart while in a cup window. Lol.

Should have been clearer. That is what I think his value is and that is how I would look at it if I was Conroy and that was a piece coming back in a Hanifin trade. Lundell at best is worth two seconds. So what needs to be added to two seconds to get Hanifin. I actually don’t think Florida makes a lot of sense because they don’t have what the Flames would want. Lundell as a centerpiece of the trade would be underwhelming, Lundell as part of a 3 or 4 asset trade would be more appropriate. Just not sure what those other assets in Florida are.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Saqe

I'm sure a pick and a prospect really warms Florida's heart while in a cup window. Lol.

Yeah, also Lundell is 22. One year younger than Pelletier, same age as Zary. He is having a bad year but in no way they are giving up on him for picks.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

I would do a version of the Bennett trade for Lundell and keep it separate from Hanifin

Lundell and a 6th round pick for the Calgary Flames 2nd round pick in 2025 and William Stromgren.

The Flames didn’t give up on Bennett until his 7th year. Lundell is in his 3rd year. If they think Lundell is a disappointment, why do they want Stromgren who is one year younger and can’t even produce in the AHL

They may trade him but we have to give up something they really need now

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Really? I haven't seen anything that would indicate the Flames are leaky?

What have these "insiders" provided that has not come from the conjecture in the media? The "insiders" had nothing on the Zadorov trade. Completely missed it. The "insiders" also completely missed the Lindholm trade. That was broken hours early by a reddit user, but nothing here, not even a sniff of the players that could be involved that the media did not already beat to death. I've been quite surprised by Conroy being able to keep these deals under wraps considering the obvious list of players, just how many teams are involved, and how badly agents want to get their players moved. I haven't seen anything of consequence come from our "insiders" other than obvious proclamations and silly gifs. When one of them actually breaks something conclusively and with actual details, then I'll buy there is inside information and not just extrapolated conjecture that everyone makes. As it is, we know whose names are out there because of contract status or elevated level of play. That doesn't have to be leaked.

Beautifully Written. The gif guy is the worst. It doesn’t even make sense when he does post a gif. The first thing he has to do every day is post the information from his source on Calgarypuck or he’s full of ####. His insiders must text him days before these things happen and he keeps the information from us what a piece of ####. I think we should ban him.

[Zulu29]

Lanny, you know you could just stop being a dink at any time. Give it a try, you’ll be happier overall. I appreciate what Sec brings to the table.