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Old 01-06-2026, 01:47 PM   #19161
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its as if some posters cannot fathom that their idea of "blowing this thing up" may not be the strategy that lifelong professional hockey people agree with in this instance....
What, you mean they might have some internal plan based on insider knowledge and the organization's advanced metrics that they don't necessarily want to share with every other org in the league by announcing it through the media? And they want to stick with the plan rather than just trading away assets ASAP for far less than their value just to potentially improve their chances at getting a top draft pick? Shocking!

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Old 01-06-2026, 01:51 PM   #19162
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I do think he stays one more year in the NCAA before jumping pro and he definitely will have a shot at the Hobey next year too, definitely a fun player to watch and follow, he has that big game energy that you love to see in a prospect, seems to make big plays happen when it matters most. Considering his lineage too I think it’s innate, I’d be surprised if he didn’t jump up 10 spots minimum in a redraft at this point and he’s getting better and better like I mentioned before, exciting times honestly… especially if we make some more future capital gains here.

Also Vegas can kindly fall on their face finally and gift us a lotto pick!
It is poetic justice frankly for the Flames not tanking last year that he fell to 32 even though ranked in top 10 by some.

For me his rise nearly eliminates the sting of losing our top 10 pick last year for our playoff push.

His speed and shot are superb.
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its as if some posters cannot fathom that their idea of "blowing this thing up" may not be the strategy that lifelong professional hockey people agree with in this instance....

LOL - they'll still insist that ME has the last say.
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Old 01-06-2026, 01:55 PM   #19164
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At the end of the day one thing that appears to be true as it has been said by Conroy, Maloney, and echoed by the FAN960 media is that the Flames plan and hope to be competitive in 1.5 seasons when they open the new rink. I think there is probably even a 1 year grace period as there will be excitement around the new rink regardless of team performance but they sure as hell want to be on a pretty clear path to contention by then.


It is why I think this is the season to sell off the remaining veteran trade chips in Andersson, Coleman and Kadri. Picking high this year is a must and adding the best trade chips which are typically young assets and picks will arm Conroy to have what it takes to acquire that veteran or RFA piece that becomes available over the summer. I could definitely see Conroy walking to the draft and making a top 10 pick and also coming away with another core piece via trade.

I feel confident with a couple of years of high picks they can sell hope in Scotia Place but I do have a hard time seeing a path to where they look like a legit contender in fall 2027
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Old 01-06-2026, 01:56 PM   #19165
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Just to be ***CRYSTAL** (ooh soo icy) clear - He (Craig Conroy) can move ANYONE.
Based on rumoured asking price for Andersson (Top Prospect + 1st)...

To WSH: Andersson
To CGY: Cristall, 1st

Cristall also played with Tij in Kelowna, so Jarome undoubtedly has a good book on him.

Cristall currently has 25 points (5G, 20A) in 31 games in his first AHL season with the Hershey Bears as a 20 year old.

Although I hope Washington is interested in Kadri..."ANYONE"

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Old 01-06-2026, 02:04 PM   #19166
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Based on rumoured asking price for Andersson (Top Prospect + 1st)...

To WSH: Andersson
To CGY: Cristall, 1st

Cristall also played with Tij in Kelowna, so Jarome undoubtedly has a good book on him.

Cristall currently has 25 points (5G, 20A) in 31 games in his first AHL season with the Hershey Bears as a 20 year old.

Although I hope Washington is interested in Kadri..."ANYONE"
I wouldn't hate it, take a boom or bust prospect with elite scoring ability and a high hockey IQ whose main wart is his skating, and see what Fujita can do with his skating.
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At the end of the day one thing that appears to be true as it has been said by Conroy, Maloney, and echoed by the FAN960 media is that the Flames plan and hope to be competitive in 1.5 seasons when they open the new rink. I think there is probably even a 1 year grace period as there will be excitement around the new rink regardless of team performance but they sure as hell want to be on a pretty clear path to contention by then.


It is why I think this is the season to sell off the remaining veteran trade chips in Andersson, Coleman and Kadri. Picking high this year is a must and adding the best trade chips which are typically young assets and picks will arm Conroy to have what it takes to acquire that veteran or RFA piece that becomes available over the summer. I could definitely see Conroy walking to the draft and making a top 10 pick and also coming away with another core piece via trade.

I feel confident with a couple of years of high picks they can sell hope in Scotia Place but I do have a hard time seeing a path to where they look like a legit contender in fall 2027
I am pretty certain they know they won't be contenders in 2027. What they would want is for optimism to be returning by then - promise and hope. If there are exciting young players on the roster, and the future is looking bright, that is more than enough to carry the day for the new arena.
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its as if some posters cannot fathom that their idea of "blowing this thing up" may not be the strategy that lifelong professional hockey people agree with in this instance....
Maybe the hockey people should be open to other ideas. When have Don Maloney or Murray Edwards ever built a cup contending hockey team?

I am not sure continuing to re biggle is the right move. I just don't know why so many people are opposed to criticizing a hockey team that has 2 playoff series wins in 20 years.

It isn't like I am suggesting the Florida Panthers or Lightning or another winning organization do things differently. I am suggesting that the Flames maybe should consider trading these vets. The method we have been doing for 2 decades has not worked, so why are you so angry that people have other suggestions to build a winner?
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Maybe the hockey people should be open to other ideas. When have Don Maloney or Murray Edwards ever built a cup contendig hockey team?

I am not sure continuing to re biggle is the right move. I just don't know why so many people are opposed to criticizing a hockey team that has 2 playoff series wins in 20 years.

It isn't like I am suggesting the Florida Panthers or Lightning or another winning organization do things differently. I am suggesting that the Flames maybe should consider trading these vets. The method we have been doing for 2 decades has not worked, so why are you so angry that people have other suggestions to build a winner?
Murray Edwards lets Conroy make the hockey decisions (something I think has been known for sometime). So what he wants to do to build a contender is irrelevant. Sounds like the same goes for Don. So your ire should be directed at Craig Conroy, who has complete autonomy to do whatever he wants on the hockey side of things.
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Ill repost this here regarding the Parekh WJC situation.

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The Kadri comments are why we should be very careful moving him out unless it is a phenomenal return.

He was exactly the same the World Juniors. If you remember his. He was trying to go 1 on 4 and win it all himself. He refused to shake hands with a Swiss player and had to apologize.

He is EXACTLY the type of vet you want to have around Parekh (and other young cocky players). He lived the experience. He made a ton of mistakes with Toronto in the playoffs and learned how to deal with it in front of a sometimes hostile Canadian market media.

I think we should be wary of moving him at this point.
Just trade Kadri and hand Parekh a copy of his book. Close enough.
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Old 01-06-2026, 02:11 PM   #19171
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Maybe the hockey people should be open to other ideas. When have Don Maloney or Murray Edwards ever built a cup contending hockey team?

I am not sure continuing to re biggle is the right move. I just don't know why so many people are opposed to criticizing a hockey team that has 2 playoff series wins in 20 years.

It isn't like I am suggesting the Florida Panthers or Lightning or another winning organization do things differently. I am suggesting that the Flames maybe should consider trading these vets. The method we have been doing for 2 decades has not worked, so why are you so angry that people have other suggestions to build a winner?
What makes you think they aren't considering trading vets? And how is the organization's history prior to Conroy's term as GM relevant? Before the salary cap, the Flames traded vets all the time because they couldn't afford to keep them. So trading vets, as opposed to retaining them, also made a contribution to the Flames' historic below average success rate.
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FYI there was no Sec'tifying of message regarding Crystal to be Andrew Cristall.
I'm not that good at his craft.
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Maybe the hockey people should be open to other ideas. When have Don Maloney or Murray Edwards ever built a cup contending hockey team?

I am not sure continuing to re biggle is the right move. I just don't know why so many people are opposed to criticizing a hockey team that has 2 playoff series wins in 20 years.

It isn't like I am suggesting the Florida Panthers or Lightning or another winning organization do things differently. I am suggesting that the Flames maybe should consider trading these vets. The method we have been doing for 2 decades has not worked, so why are you so angry that people have other suggestions to build a winner?
It’s because you don’t know what they are going to do and are criticizing things that haven’t happened under Conroy yet. Give them the season and then whine.
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FYI there was no Sec'tifying of message regarding Crystal to be Andrew Cristall.
I'm not that good at his craft.
Fair enough, but it made for some interesting speculation.
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Just to be ***CRYSTAL** (ooh soo icy) clear - He (Craig Conroy) can move ANYONE.

3 stars before CRYSTAL and 2 stars after


Anyone can move - even #32
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I'm not that good at his craft.
All good. I was just teasing anyway.
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Ras being traded for a crate of Cristal.
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Maybe the hockey people should be open to other ideas. When have Don Maloney or Murray Edwards ever built a cup contending hockey team?

I am not sure continuing to re biggle is the right move. I just don't know why so many people are opposed to criticizing a hockey team that has 2 playoff series wins in 20 years.

It isn't like I am suggesting the Florida Panthers or Lightning or another winning organization do things differently. I am suggesting that the Flames maybe should consider trading these vets. The method we have been doing for 2 decades has not worked, so why are you so angry that people have other suggestions to build a winner?
It's called hope.

Personally I don't see why it runs in such short supply on this site these days.

I like what Conroy has done.
I think they've started a path that is smarter than what we've seen before.
I think they've hit on a lot of players (or look to be hitting) that were acquired with additional draft capital.

So forgive me for not looking for reasons to suck out all hope and only see the worst possible scenario in everything.

It's soul sucking.

It's not a lot of fun.
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It’s because you don’t know what they are going to do and are criticizing things that haven’t happened under Conroy yet. Give them the season and then whine.
True, there is still time. I just know history tends to repeat itself in this organization, so I am very pessimistic about it lol.
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It's called hope.

Personally I don't see why it runs in such short supply on this site these days.

I like what Conroy has done.
I think they've started a path that is smarter than what we've seen before.
I think they've hit on a lot of players (or look to be hitting) that were acquired with additional draft capital.

So forgive me for not looking for reasons to suck out all hope and only see the worst possible scenario in everything.

It's soul sucking.

It's not a lot of fun.
It's OK Bingo. One day the people who are overly negative about everything will realize that it's not the Flames they are upset at, they are just unhappy people in general.
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