2021/2022 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[ComixZone]

Weakening the centre ice position that is already weak seems like an unwise decision for this team.

If they acquire Eichel in a deal that sends out Tkachuk, and then send Monahan out for Tarasenko + (and I think the + would have to be decent), then fine.

…also, where in the blue blazes is the Jack Eichel trade?!?!

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

…also, where in the blue blazes is the Jack Eichel trade?!?!

Latest word is that Mr. Adams is not making any deal unless it includes a pink pony. A naturally pink pony, no dye jobs allowed.

We could all be waiting for some time.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Latest word is that Mr. Adams is not making any deal unless it includes a pink pony. A naturally pink pony, no dye jobs allowed.

We could all be waiting for some time.

The Buffalo Sabres being managed by a Brony tracks pretty well.

[djsFlames]

Any one get the sense that the Buffalo/eichel stalemate is holding up a bunch of potential other moves?

No team including the Flames will pursue their plan B until they know for certain JE is going elsewhere. Too big of a puzzle piece to not wait for that verdict first.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Any one get the sense that the Buffalo/eichel stalemate is holding up a bunch of potential other moves?

Agreed. Even the guys on the Fan 960 have mentioned this.

It's a pity my doctor isn't a hockey fan. Otherwise, the next time I get constipation I could go to her and say, ‘My bowels are Eicheled,’ and she would know exactly what I meant.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by Redrum

So hoping for a Tarasenko bounce back(less likely by the sounds of it) will put us over the top?

I think the Flames should wait and be patient on this one. There will be better, healthier players available out there at some point. No sense in making this type of trade just because this particular player is available.

The Flames picking up players that don't fit, or come up short has been a problem.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by DazzlinDino

I think the Flames should wait and be patient on this one. There will be better, healthier players available out there at some point. No sense in making this type of trade just because this particular player is available.

The Flames picking up players that don't fit, or come up short has been a problem.

There won't be better players available

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by dino7c

There won't be better players available

Who were the last two?
Thornton? Seguin but he was still young with question marks.

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by DazzlinDino

I think the Flames should wait and be patient on this one. There will be better, healthier players available out there at some point. No sense in making this type of trade just because this particular player is available.

The Flames picking up players that don't fit, or come up short has been a problem.

I agree, we should wait patiently for a clear cut #1 center in his prime with no warts or question marks at all, to request a trade to a small market Canadian team and ensure we give up nothing of any value or any marginal risk whatsoever.

It may not happen in my great-great-grandchildrens' lifetime, but that's clearly the right solution. Patience always wins. Just ask Brad.

[FusionX]

Originally Posted by DazzlinDino

There will be better (yes), healthier (yes) players available (NOT for the Flames) out there at some point.

There will certainly be better players in the future that are better and come with less health concerns, but realistically, that's through drafting high. You'd be looking at getting lucky through winning a draft lottery, after managing to suck enough to get better odds, all while making sure it is the year of a franchise player.

None of those things describe the Flames' intent or luck unfortunately. What we do have at the moment however is a realistic chance at acquiring such a player. Sure, there are a few things to consider but honestly, if there wasn't, he wouldn't even be available nor would we have a chance.

[FusionX]

Originally Posted by MrMike

Who were the last two?
Thornton? Seguin but he was still young with question marks.

Tavares? Albeit in a different situation.

[djsFlames]

Won't be a player of this caliber at this position at the eventual price tag that lands him for quite some time.

Of course grabbing more middle six players is easier to do, and safer.

But low risk means low reward. The upside here is the potential to compete in the west if the health side pans out, as well as the chance to successfully retool on the fly and not have to rebuild from the foundation. B/C options simply don't move the needle in the same way.

Its not merely because of what he adds, but how he will make Gaudreau better (taking some pressure off of him and giving him an elite talent to work with), and slot the centers much more appropriately, improving the second line in the process.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by dino7c

There won't be better players available

Are we talking about the same player, Tarasenko? Agreed another Eichel may not come around, but if we wait, surely we can do better than Tarasenko without the injury concerns.

[cKy]

Originally Posted by DazzlinDino

Are we talking about the same player, Tarasenko? Agreed another Eichel may not come around, but if we wait, surely we can do better than Tarasenko without the injury concerns.

ehhh, I think we'd need to see Tarasenko play a full season before we rule out any injury concerns..

[woolymammoth]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Agreed. Even the guys on the Fan 960 have mentioned this.

It's a pity my doctor isn't a hockey fan. Otherwise, the next time I get constipation I could go to her and say, ‘My bowels are Eicheled,’ and she would know exactly what I meant.

All the doctors that are hockey fans are over in the Winnipeg Jets thread if you are at all interested in making a change.

[FlamesAddiction]

Totally stole this from an NHL Youtuber, but if Buffalo trades Eichel, they will likely need to take on at least $10 million in cap space just to reach the cap floor this season. This taken into consideration re-signing their current RFAs (Dahlin, Mittlestadt, and Jokiharju) at their projected market value and that they don't make any big UFA signings (which seems unlikely).

Basically, they need to take on decent sized contracts, so even if Tkachuk was the main piece going back, we would probably need to add at least another $3 million to the deal.

[genetic_phreek]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Totally stole this from an NHL Youtuber, but if Buffalo trades Eichel, they will likely need to take on at least $10 million in cap space just to reach the cap floor this season. This taken into consideration re-signing their current RFAs (Dahlin, Mittlestadt, and Jokiharju) at their projected market value and that they don't make any big UFA signings (which seems unlikely).

Basically, they need to take on decent sized contracts, so even if Tkachuk was the main piece going back, we would probably need to add at least another $3 million to the deal.

or they can retain some money

[djsFlames]

Retain, retain!

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Retain, retain!

I know there was a rumour that they might retain some money in the trade. I think it would have to really increase his return if they did. He has 5 years left on his contract. Depending on how much is retained, it could add up to a lot of money to be paying eichel not to play for you. Plus Buffalo may end up buying out Skinner’s contract in a couple years. It’s a lot of wasted money to ask an owner to pay.

Also, I think Buffalo is going to plan their rebuild around getting at least one of Wright, lambert, or Bedard. If they get one of them and they live up to expectations, they would need a big contract after their ELC in 3/4 years - which could be >$10 million per year. If Dahlin and Power develop into the players they have the potential to be, they’ll also be due a big contract in that time. Not to mention how much Dylan cozens could need on his second contract if he develops properly. Have to think long term when retaining salary and I think Buffalo could use all the cap space they can get when they have to sign the young players they have/are going to have. They’ll have tons of cap space for the next 2-3 years but after that, they will have a lot of young players due big raises. Retaining salary on eichel would need to really add more value to the trade.


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[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Agreed. Even the guys on the Fan 960 have mentioned this.

It's a pity my doctor isn't a hockey fan. Otherwise, the next time I get constipation I could go to her and say, ‘My bowels are Eicheled,’ and she would know exactly what I meant.

So that’s what Jack squat means!