2025/2026 Season Trade Rumours and Speculation Thread

[Toonage]

You get all the intangibles, grit and defensive play that Coleman is known for, plus he's scoring at a great clip that he isn't really known for. Hard to think his value would be more than it is right now, personally.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Groot

We've been hearing how Kadri and Coleman are going to fall off the map any year now because of their age.

Kadri is playing as he always have, at a 65 point pace, on a pretty anemic offensive team.

Coleman is having one of his best seasons.

Neither have a play style that seems like its hanging on a precipice. I would wager that Coleman doesnt lose any effectiveness over his current contract. Kadri, 3 season after this. If he does see a steep decline in play, I dont see it until the very tailend of his contract.

So yes, thats always a concern, but given what we've seen so far I dont see value plummeting anytime where it affects the Flames trade window (this season, offseason, next season)

How can anyone accept this timeline to try and properly build a contending team? If you trade Kadri and Coleman next season, in 2027, you could be looking at 2028 or 2029 picks as the return. Add two seasons of development time and those players aren't hitting our roster until 2030 or 31 likely, and that would be if they are really good.

By then even Wolf will be most way through his contract. Whats the point of trying to build around the current group of players if we are willing to accept that type of timeline.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Toonage

You get all the intangibles, grit and defensive play that Coleman is known for, plus he's scoring at a great clip that he isn't really known for. Hard to think his value would be more than it is right now, personally.

Jiri also left out the massive amount of downside risks. And even when you look at his upside reasons why value may persist, it is flimsy at best.

[Harry Lime]

For all of the emphasis on players being better sooner, I think that the truth is that the peak performance years are older than they were. 28 to 32 used to be the best overall impact years, but now I think thats pushed to 28 to 34 pretty easily.

First generation not coked up and smoking like a chimney during their ELCs.

[Bingo]

I hope ...

a) an offer exceeds what the mgmt team expects for Coleman
b) they don't waffle on making the move with the offer met

I'll have no way of knowing if that happened, but that's my hope.

If they don't get their price met I'm fine with letting it ride (depending on the differential between the offer and expected).

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

How can anyone accept this timeline to try and properly build a contending team? If you trade Kadri and Coleman next season, in 2027, you could be looking at 2028 or 2029 picks as the return. Add two seasons of development time and those players aren't hitting our roster until 2030 or 31 likely, and that would be if they are really good.

By then even Wolf will be most way through his contract. Whats the point of trying to build around the current group of players if we are willing to accept that type of timeline.

What timelines do you think other teams have used? 9-10 years is how long it's taken TB and Fla. 9 years for Colorado. SJ started their process 4 years ago and they are nowhere near a cup, even if they are headed in the right direction.

[Groot]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

How can anyone accept this timeline to try and properly build a contending team? If you trade Kadri and Coleman next season, in 2027, you could be looking at 2028 or 2029 picks as the return. Add two seasons of development time and those players aren't hitting our roster until 2030 or 31 likely, and that would be if they are really good.

By then even Wolf will be most way through his contract. Whats the point of trying to build around the current group of players if we are willing to accept that type of timeline.

We will be getting a high-pick this season. Likely next as well. And we already have 2 1st's this draft. Plus whatever other picks we make this draft, plus tue Andersson return. Then we have a solid pipeline of existing prospects. By 2027/2028 season when the new arena opens, we should see a few of the following on the big club, hopefully in impact roles.

Parekh
Reschny
Potter
Wyttenbach
Gridin
Honzek
Suniev
Battaglia
Basha

I also don't think the late 1st you're getting for either is giving you the big impact player to build around. I also dont know how moving a trade back 1 season means the picks you get are 3 season away, but whatever. Adding additional 1st's in '28 or '29 to an already developing core only helps the team.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

What timelines do you think other teams have used? 9-10 years is how long it's taken TB and Fla. 9 years for Colorado. SJ started their process 4 years ago and they are nowhere near a cup, even if they are headed in the right direction.

I don't know... if they traded Misa to the Flames for Andersson and Coleman the Sharks might be headed to the cup this year!

They need to be bold.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

For all of the emphasis on players being better sooner, I think that the truth is that the peak performance years are older than they were. 28 to 32 used to be the best overall impact years, but now I think thats pushed to 28 to 34 pretty easily.

First generation not coked up and smoking like a chimney during their ELCs.

Players age slower more and more. Kadri's 34 - he looks like this



Both of these guys are 35:

NSFW!

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Groot

We will be getting a high-pick this season. Likely next as well. And we already have 2 1st's this draft. Plus whatever other picks we make this draft, plus tue Andersson return. Then we have a solid pipeline of existing prospects. By 2027/2028 season when the new arena opens, we should see a few of the following on the big club, hopefully in impact roles.

Parekh
Reschny
Potter
Wyttenbach
Gridin
Honzek
Suniev
Battaglia
Basha

I also don't think the late 1st you're getting for either is giving you the big impact player to build around. I also dont know how moving a trade back 1 season means the picks you get are 3 season away, but whatever. Adding additional 1st's in '28 or '29 to an already developing core only helps the team.

The core you listed is not good enough to compete reasonably in the league. We can't compete for the cup without at least 1 top line offensive driver on top of what you have listed. Preferably a centre, but McKenna would probably do.

It is not certain we will get a top 5 pick this season. That is what we need.

[zukes]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Pretty easy to live in Canada, and have your family living in Canada, if you play for Buffalo.

Easiest of all the US cities

Detroit says hi

[robertsfanatic]

Originally Posted by zukes

Detroit says hi

I'd probably rather live outside Detroit than in Windsor though.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Wolven

I don't know... if they traded Misa to the Flames for Andersson and Coleman the Sharks might be headed to the cup this year!

They need to be bold.

Only if Calgary throws in Wolf.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by robertsfanatic

I'd probably rather live outside Detroit than in Windsor though.

My family is from Windsor, and I would choose Ann Arbor 11/10 times. Also somewhere north of Detroit towards Rochester would be just fine.

Windsor holds a lot of fond memories for me, but I can honestly say it is a total hole.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

What timelines do you think other teams have used? 9-10 years is how long it's taken TB and Fla. 9 years for Colorado. SJ started their process 4 years ago and they are nowhere near a cup, even if they are headed in the right direction.

Sharks are my dark horse for competing for a bottom 5 position with the Flames. They are not very good and I am assuming that Celebrini dips a bit after being named to Team Canada. They have another 2-3 years left on that rebuild, still need defence and a goalie.

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by Groot

We've been hearing how Kadri and Coleman are going to fall off the map any year now because of their age.

Kadri is playing as he always have, at a 65 point pace, on a pretty anemic offensive team.

Coleman is having one of his best seasons.

Neither have a play style that seems like its hanging on a precipice. I would wager that Coleman doesnt lose any effectiveness over his current contract. Kadri, 3 season after this. If he does see a steep decline in play, I dont see it until the very tailend of his contract.

So yes, thats always a concern, but given what we've seen so far I dont see value plummeting anytime where it affects the Flames trade window (this season, offseason, next season)

I mean I'm not guaranteeing it but it's something that should be considered if the value is there this trade deadline for him.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by robertsfanatic

I'd probably rather live outside Detroit than in Windsor though.

YMMV depending on your skin colour.

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by zukes

Detroit says hi

None of those guys live or spend their time in Detroit proper. Bloomfield, Birmingham and Novi expensive areas with massive homes and properties

[albertGQ]

If Coleman is not worth a first rounder this year, he won't be worth a first rounder next year IMO

If he can only get you a 2nd, I think I'd do that. Would help the tank too

But IMO, I think he's worth a 1st (maybe we'll have to retain a bit, but that shouldn't be an issue).

I'd even trade him for a 2nd and a 3rd at this point.

[gvitaly]

A deal around Sam O'Rielly for Coleman(50%) just makes way too much sense, for both sides.

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I saw some rumors today that Ottawa circled back on Andersson, but the Flames are asking for Yakemchuk; meanwhile, Staios doesn't want to move Yak, or Hensler.

It turned out to be is a couple of days old by Garrioch:

League executives say the Senators may have circled back to the Flames about defenceman Rasmus Andersson.
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The belief is that the Flames likely want a first-round pick and a high-end prospect in return.

We’re told that teams likely will ask the Senators 2024 first-round pick, Carter Yakemchuk — who is with the club’s American Hockey League affiliate in Belleville — and 2025 top selection Logan Hensler, who is in his second season at the University of Wisconsin.
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The Senators have zero interest in moving either player. They don’t have a lot to trade.

https://ottawacitizen.com/ottawa-sen...idseason-nears

The most encouraging news are that the Flames are asking for a 1st + A prospect. Hopefully they get it.