01-31-2024, 07:49 PM
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#18821
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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01-31-2024, 07:57 PM
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#18822
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Toronto, ON
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can we do this for Hanafin now? 2025 1st, Poitras, Trent Frederic
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01-31-2024, 08:06 PM
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#18823
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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Imagine what he could get from Dallas for Coleman?!?!?!
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Sky's the limit!
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01-31-2024, 08:35 PM
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#18824
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Franchise Player
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The nice thing about the return from the Lindholm trade is it opens up focusing on forwards in the other deals. The blueline looks waaaaaay different now with Poirier, Kuznetsov, Solovyov, Morin, Brzustewicz, and Jurmo in the system. Those two extra bodies make a huge difference IMO. A very solid start to a possible reload.
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01-31-2024, 08:40 PM
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#18825
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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I'm also starting to think that Mareks idea of Vladar + for Hertl might not be far fetched as some want to think.
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01-31-2024, 08:47 PM
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#18826
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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The Tanev rumors to Ottawa scream of a pissed off Ottawa leaking it. Ottawa isn't in a position to pay up because they're not in contention but they probably really want him this off-season. If I were to take a best guess, they've probably heard of a team like Montreal or Buffalo talking trade for a price they don't want to pay in hopes they can extend him before hitting free agency, and Ottawa is leaking it to make it known they will go for him in the off-season. Could be made up in my head but Ottawa coming out with such a strong push screams to me a purposeful leak.
Anyway, I'm guessing Tanev gets a 2nd and a 3rd.
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01-31-2024, 08:50 PM
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#18827
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Everyone's Favorite Oilfan!
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: San Jose, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bluejays
The Tanev rumors to Ottawa scream of a pissed off Ottawa leaking it. Ottawa isn't in a position to pay up because they're not in contention but they probably really want him this off-season. If I were to take a best guess, they've probably heard of a team like Montreal or Buffalo talking trade for a price they don't want to pay in hopes they can extend him before hitting free agency, and Ottawa is leaking it to make it known they will go for him in the off-season. Could be made up in my head but Ottawa coming out with such a strong push screams to me a purposeful leak.
Anyway, I'm guessing Tanev gets a 2nd and a 3rd.
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With the amount of teams in on Tanev, I'd assume the return would be higher. IMO at least 2 2nd's. Is a low 1st out of the question? I think he is worth it. Tanev is an absolutely solid defensive defenseman.
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01-31-2024, 08:54 PM
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#18828
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Originally Posted by OILFAN #81
With the amount of teams in on Tanev, I'd assume the return would be higher. IMO at least 2 2nd's. Is a low 1st out of the question? I think he is worth it. Tanev is an absolutely solid defensive defenseman.
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He's a perfect shiny item for a playoff team. Will a team pony up a 1st? I'd like to see it. I guess it depends who else is there on the open market, but I'm always skeptical of the willingness to deal 1sts for non-stars. Tanev is super solid and will play his heart out. Really depends how much a team loves him to give up a 1st. I want to see it, I just don't know until it happens. Frankly I hope it's a 1st for next year. Gotta stagger things out a bit.
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01-31-2024, 08:54 PM
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#18829
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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I really hope they trade Hanifin next.
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01-31-2024, 08:54 PM
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#18830
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#1 Goaltender
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I really like that Conroy has set the market so high for UFAs going into the TDL… it’s a very important move considering he has potentially 2 other big UFAs remaining. If the acquisition for Lindholm was low, it could have set the market a little lower for all UFAs this year.
Montreal has to be happy about this too. I think this suggests Monahan should return a 1st round pick as well. And now that Lindholm is gone, Monahan likely becomes the best UFA centre available and is at a reasonable cap hit.
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01-31-2024, 08:55 PM
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#18831
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Everyone's Favorite Oilfan!
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: San Jose, California
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Also, with Lindholm going for what he did, I wonder what Guentzel goes for now. A 1st, 2nd, a good young prospect or two and a lesser roster player to even out money?
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01-31-2024, 09:00 PM
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#18832
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OILFAN #81
Also, with Lindholm going for what he did, I wonder what Guentzel goes for now. A 1st, 2nd, a good young prospect or two and a lesser roster player to even out money?
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I'm taking Lindholm most days. Kunitz is an example of what Crosby does for one's value. I see Guentzel in the same light. Maybe a 1st an a b-prospect, to some suckers' detriment.
As for Monahan, he's played okay but where is the sudden trade value coming from? He's not a game changer for a playoff contender. How is he suddenly the talk of the town? I think some posted his advanced stats rating being poor, and some GM is going to overpay for a bottom two line guy on a cup contender? I wish the best for the guy but no way he gets a 1st.
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01-31-2024, 09:22 PM
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#18833
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#1 Goaltender
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I think there are likely lots of offers for Tanev right now that are all likely a 2nd + a 3rd round pick… that’s probably what Vancouver was willing to add to the Lindholm deal to make Conroy include Tanev as well. Conroy likely looks at it as being able to get that anyways from any of the teams interested in Tanev. He’s probably waiting for one of these teams to crack and offer up a first round pick or at least a conditional first round pick (the condition being something like having to make it to the 2nd round and he has to play at least 4 games in the playoffs). I think it’s a good strategy. He is a highly coveted player because there just is not many guys available that do what he does. Keep it going Conroy… squeeze that first round pick from someone.
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01-31-2024, 09:24 PM
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#18834
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Wouldn't shock me it the Lindholm deal triggered a crazy rush on Tanev, as early as tomorrow.
And I am curious if there's something brewing with a player who has term left to have some retention. Markstrom, Mangiapane... who knows!
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01-31-2024, 09:27 PM
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#18835
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Everyone's Favorite Oilfan!
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: San Jose, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bluejays
I'm taking Lindholm most days. Kunitz is an example of what Crosby does for one's value. I see Guentzel in the same light. Maybe a 1st an a b-prospect, to some suckers' detriment.
As for Monahan, he's played okay but where is the sudden trade value coming from? He's not a game changer for a playoff contender. How is he suddenly the talk of the town? I think some posted his advanced stats rating being poor, and some GM is going to overpay for a bottom two line guy on a cup contender? I wish the best for the guy but no way he gets a 1st.
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Respect your opinion but I value Guentzel higher than you do. He's a 35-40 goal scorer IMO Crosby or not.
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01-31-2024, 09:27 PM
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#18836
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Well, Connie's still talking about playoffs so.....
How much do you want to bet he clears off the UFAs, then uses some assets to go out and add. Would not shock me if he pulled off both selling and buying in the same two week window.
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01-31-2024, 09:38 PM
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#18837
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Calgary
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I can see the Sens throwing some cash at Tanev in the offseason, but why in the world would they try to contend with the deadline teams and add him mid-season?
I mean, it's the Sens and they're wacky but I don't see them as serious contenders for Tanev.
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01-31-2024, 09:38 PM
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#18838
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Franchise Player
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Any word on the conditions on the 4th? re-sign with Canucks?
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01-31-2024, 09:39 PM
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#18839
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Our Jessica Fletcher
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Gotta recognize his words for what they are, just words.
His actions are speaking louder than his lip service.
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01-31-2024, 09:39 PM
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#18840
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
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Any word on the conditions on the 4th? re-sign with Canucks?
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4th becomes a 3rd if the Canucks make the WCF.
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