2016/2017 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[nik-]

Originally Posted by JonDuke

^^^

He's saying the exact same thing a lot of people here say about Wideman. Who's taking him?

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

Wasn't really expecting it, but at least he doesn't have to be on the ice if he is struggling.

he's off the books this summer regardless, so that's all i was expecting

I guess only way it happens is if we are taking a big contract back and we have to send his contract back to make it work. Of course he could scuttle it with his nmc but as you say, if he finishes his career with us as the 8th dman and doesn't play another game, it's a win.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

The move would be low cost for one. I feel bringing Iggy back would bring the right emotion to the team and the City. This has been a bizarre season in terms of the vibe around this team. It feels like the sky has been falling through the year but the team has held down a playoff spot for the better part of 3 months. There was a thread where people were stating they are more fair weather fans these days. Iggy would bring a huge buzz to the team and the city. He could provide the emotional jolt the team and the fanbase could use to push to a playoff spot and Flames fever

Low cost? Have you seen Iginla's salary? Have you seen our cap situation? Get serious. As to the rest...

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by New Era

Low cost? Have you seen Iginla's salary? Have you seen our cap situation?

Both aren't an issue. I don't advocate for an Iginla trade but the acquisition cost would be low and his cap hit would be about 1.4 this late in the year.

Michael Stone for example had a cap hit of four million to start the season. However the Coyotes retained half of that and we're 3/4th through the season so it's only just over half a million for the Flames.

We could add Iginla's 1.4 and still have room to work with.

[The Fonz]

Originally Posted by New Era

How would Iginla be a good add? His 7 goals would but him 13th on the Flames. His 16 points would put him 13th on the club for points. Exactly what roll would Iginla play for this club?

Why are you including defensemen in where Iginla would rank on the Flames? When considering acquiring a RW, how is it relevant to compare their offensive stats to those of Giordano, Brodie, and Hamilton?

[sureLoss]

top 9 winger rentals who can fit into the Flames projected deadline cap space without their current respective teams retaining salary or the Flames having to move out any salary:

Parenteau
Eaves
Vrbata *has potential playoff performance bounses that will count to next season as an overage for next season's salary cap
Vanek
Hudler
Korpikopski

[The Fonz]

Hudler would be cheap

[MrMastodonFarm]

Patrick Sharp would be a cheap pick up for the Flames. He's had a horrendous season but only one year removed from 20 goals and 55 points. It's like there's only room for one scoring winger named Patrick on the Stars.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Patrick Sharp would be a cheap pick up for the Flames. He's had a horrendous season but only one year removed from 20 goals and 55 points. It's like there's only room for one scoring winger named Patrick on the Stars.

I actually agree with this. Could be an easy revitalization project. And if he puts up big numbers, that'd be good for my CPHL team!

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Iginla is not coming here unless we go strong up until the deadline and then we might be in a second tier group he would consider. He has serious thoughts about maybe hanging them up after this year and he wants to have a shot at the Cup. There are better choices than the Flames for that.

First choices: Chicago, Minnesota, San Jose, Washington, Pittsburgh, Columbus, NYR
Second choices: Montreal, Edmonton (grosse), Anaheim, Calgary, St. Louis, Ottawa, Nashville, Florida, and possibly LA.

Totally agree with this. I was all about bringing Iginla back earlier in the year but not anymore. I don't think it benefits either party.

The Flames are still very much a team without an identity IMO. They don't quite know what they are. I don't think anyone really does. The Iginla of now doesn't help them solve that problem and doesn't provide the offensive punch the team needs either. Iggy needs to go to a team that knows its capable of a deep run and could use him as added depth. Its just not a fit.

[djsFlames]

A Bennett package for Duchene?

5 years older but at least a bonafide top 6 player with miles to go that instantly makes the team more top heavy with talent and have another sniper to lean on other than Monahan.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

A Bennett package for Duchene?

5 years older but at least a bonafide top 6 player with miles to go that instantly makes the team more top heavy with talent and have another sniper to lean on other than Monahan.

Don't like it. Duchene eats up $6M for the next 2 years which is tough to fit in and then he will require a 6-8 year deal at $6-$8M when he is 28. Sure he is better than Bennett over the next 2 years but unless you think the Flames are winning the cup this year or next it is a bad move. Bennett will be 21 next year is is looking at a 2-3 year bridge deal likely no more than $3M per then will be a 23-24 year old RFA who hopefully signs a 7-8 year deal at $5-$7M

[Zulu29]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

A Bennett package for Duchene?

5 years older but at least a bonafide top 6 player with miles to go that instantly makes the team more top heavy with talent and have another sniper to lean on other than Monahan.

Bennett should not be moved unless it's ridiculous overpayment

[timbit]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

Why are you including defensemen in where Iginla would rank on the Flames? When considering acquiring a RW, how is it relevant to compare their offensive stats to those of Giordano, Brodie, and Hamilton?

If you rank Iginla with the Flames top 4 rwers ; Brouwer Frolic Chiasson and Versteeg all have more goals.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Don't like it. Duchene eats up $6M for the next 2 years which is tough to fit in and then he will require a 6-8 year deal at $6-$8M when he is 28. Sure he is better than Bennett over the next 2 years but unless you think the Flames are winning the cup this year or next it is a bad move. Bennett will be 21 next year is is looking at a 2-3 year bridge deal likely no more than $3M per then will be a 23-24 year old RFA who hopefully signs a 7-8 year deal at $5-$7M

Good analysis.

[The Fonz]

Originally Posted by timbit

If you rank Iginla with the Flames top 4 rwers ; Brouwer Frolic Chiasson and Versteeg all have more goals.

Exactly. The 'spin' was not required, and actually took away from the valid point that New Era was trying to make.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Problem. Send Wideman...NMC...nevermind.

The Flames could put Wideman in the pressbox and let him know that he's being shut down for the year, then ask him to waive him NMC.

I'm not a fan of the underhandedness of it, but I think it would work.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Zulu29

Bennett should not be moved unless it's ridiculous overpayment

Or, I dunno, if you're getting a star player back? If it costs someone who might be a star for someone who is, that may just be the price of poker.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by timbit

If you rank Iginla with the Flames top 4 rwers ; Brouwer Frolic Chiasson and Versteeg all have more goals.

Brouwer - 9
Frolik - 13
Chaisson - 8
Versteeg -10


Iginla - 7

So while you are correct, its pretty even/close for 55 games played.

The interesting part, Iginla's Sh% is 6.3%. Only twice in his career has he been below 10%, and his career average is 13.2%.

Last 3 years Sh%

14.4
15.3
12.1

So maybe he fell of a cliff, or maybe it has been one of those years, where he is due for 10 goals in the last 20 games?

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

Why are you including defensemen in where Iginla would rank on the Flames? When considering acquiring a RW, how is it relevant to compare their offensive stats to those of Giordano, Brodie, and Hamilton?

Because a forward who is supposedly going to help scoring should easily be out-scoring our defensemen?

Outside of the feel good story, which probably isn't much of a feel good story anymore, and would probably become more of a distraction, there is no reason to bring back Iginla. None. He does not fill a need on this hockey club in any shape or form.