Wild Card Race (Western Conference)

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

Even in that scenario, it becomes about as likely that the first round opponent shifts from the Canucks to the Kings. Not sure if that would be ideal at all.

It would have been nice if Nashville could of held their lead against the Canucks, but for a little bit of leeway I think I'll be cheering for the Canucks against L.A.

Yeah... not sure if it is still ROW that breaks three way tie?
If so, the Kings could not catch either, unless they pass them in points - which could happen. I get exactly what you are saying.

[PeteMoss]

Yes ROW is the first tiebreaker in all cases.

[ah123]

The Flames need to win out to make the playoffs. This tweet from Darren Haynes really shows how tight the race still is

@DarrenWHaynes: #Flames could miss playoffs with 98 pts if final week unfolds like this:
LA - 3-0-1 (99)
VAN - 2-1-0 (99)
WPG - 3-0-1 (99)
CGY - 2-0-1 (98)


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[Toonage]

They don't need to win out but it would benefit them if they did. We won't know if they needed to win out until they have or haven't. As odd as that sounds.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Tsawwassen

No, we aren't cheering for the Canucks to win on Monday, Kings to win in reg time is better. The Coyotes do play the Canucks tough and I think the Coyotes can beat them.

Hahahaha this is ludicrous. First, you always want the team behind you to lose - the more teams behind you the better your odds. Second, you just said you're counting on the tanking Coyotes to keep your playoff hopes alive. I don't care how well Mike Smith plays, I don't like those odds.

Anyway I would say the least likely thing about that ah123 scenario is the Jets going 3-0-1. They're going to lose to at least one of MIN, STL or CGY, and probably two of those.

[Bourque's Twin]

Flames schedule:
ARI, LA, @WPG

Canucks schedule:
LA, ARI, EDM

Kings Schedule:
@VAN, @EDM, @CGY, SJS

Jets Schedule:
@MIN, @STL, @COL, CGY

The Canucks are pretty much guaranteed 4 more points.
Calgary has an easy game then controls their own destiny.
LA has a two challenging games on their road trip and then spoiler game against SJS.
Jets are in for a tough road trip, against 2 of the league's best plus a capable (ignoring last night) Avs team.

The Canucks are in easy, the Jets are in tough. The Flames control their own destiny.

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Anyway I would say the least likely thing about that ah123 scenario is the Jets going 3-0-1. They're going to lose to at least one of MIN, STL or CGY, and probably two of those.

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by Bourque's Twin

Jets are in for a tough road trip, against 2 of the league's best plus a capable (ignoring last night) Avs team.

The Canucks are in easy, the Jets are in tough. The Flames control their own destiny.

The Jets also control their own destiny.

Going on the road to play at St Louis and Minnesota isn't ideal... But with both teams going to playoffs mode I expect them not to play desperate.

Colorado is... Well, Colorado. If last night is any indication they have given up.

Winnipeg has 3 games to match Calgary's win total over the Flames next two. Then it comes down to Winnipeg having home ice against the Flames for a play in game. I'll take those odds.

[killer_carlson]

Think any sharks are looking forward to ending the Kings season in that last game?

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by ah123

The Flames need to win out to make the playoffs. This tweet from Darren Haynes really shows how tight the race still is

@DarrenWHaynes: #Flames could miss playoffs with 98 pts if final week unfolds like this:
LA - 3-0-1 (99)
VAN - 2-1-0 (99)
WPG - 3-0-1 (99)
CGY - 2-0-1 (98)


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Isn't that impossible though since Calgary plays LA and Winnipeg. They can't go 2-0-1 without one of those teams taking a loss

[Knut]

Originally Posted by ah123

The Flames need to win out to make the playoffs. This tweet from Darren Haynes really shows how tight the race still is

@DarrenWHaynes: #Flames could miss playoffs with 98 pts if final week unfolds like this:
LA - 3-0-1 (99)
VAN - 2-1-0 (99)
WPG - 3-0-1 (99)
CGY - 2-0-1 (98)


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So the flames would best both la and Win in OT but still not make it because of an Otl to Ari? That would suck

[malcolmk14]

If we miss with almost 100 points I won't even be upset. That's just ridiculous.

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by HOWITZER

It cannot be understated how important it is that Calgary beat Arizona. That's only one hurdle. Then it's a must-win game against LA who have just shredded Edmonton and Colorado.

I think I'll stick with my earlier prediction and say Calgary misses. Please be wrong.

Overstated?

[Mattman]

Originally Posted by Bourque's Twin

The Canucks are in easy, the Jets are in tough. The Flames control their own destiny.

To be fair you could say that for all of Vancouver, LA, Calgary and Winnipeg.

Somewhere it will be the motivation and play of the other teams that over or under shoots "destiny".


I really hope the Jets make it over LA. They seem like a much more deserving team than the Kings.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Isn't that impossible though since Calgary plays LA and Winnipeg. They can't go 2-0-1 without one of those teams taking a loss

Oh overtime wins never mind

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Isn't that impossible though since Calgary plays LA and Winnipeg. They can't go 2-0-1 without one of those teams taking a loss

One of either team's OTL could be in that particular game, no?

[polak]

Originally Posted by ah123

The Flames need to win out to make the playoffs. This tweet from Darren Haynes really shows how tight the race still is

@DarrenWHaynes: #Flames could miss playoffs with 98 pts if final week unfolds like this:
LA - 3-0-1 (99)
VAN - 2-1-0 (99)
WPG - 3-0-1 (99)
CGY - 2-0-1 (98)


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I fear that this is exactly what will happen and its exactly how many points I said we'd need.

Regardless, someone is missing the playoffs with nearly 100 points. Lets just hope its not us.

[Bourque's Twin]

If the Flames beat ARI and lose to both LA and WPG in regulation, one of LA/WPG would have to go 1-2-1 in their remaining games. The 1 win being against Calgary.

WPG could lose to MIN, lose to STL, and OTL to COL - probably not going to happen, but could.

LA would need to lose to VAN, OTL to EDM, lose to SJS - highly unlikely.

The Flames will need to at least win 1 of the LA / WPG games.

[HOWITZER]

Is it possible that Calgary really doesn't control their own destiny? We all think they do, but both LA and WPG could be ahead of Calgary even before the LA v. CGY game. At that point it really is advantage to LA and WPG.

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by Bourque's Twin

If the Flames beat ARI and lose to both LA and WPG in regulation, one of LA/WPG would have to go 1-2-1 in their remaining games. The 1 win being against Calgary.

WPG could lose to MIN, lose to STL, and OTL to COL - probably not going to happen, but could.

LA would need to lose to VAN, OTL to EDM, lose to SJS - highly unlikely.

The Flames will need to at least win 1 of the LA / WPG games.

Originally Posted by HOWITZER

Is it possible that Calgary really doesn't control their own destiny? We all think they do, but both LA and WPG could be ahead of Calgary even before the LA v. CGY game. At that point it really is advantage to LA and WPG.

From a Jets fan perspective... my view on it is Calgary has an easy game against Arizona and then a very tough one vs LA. If Calgary splits those games... that means Winnipeg only has to win once next week in 3 games to make the final game a play in game.

Of course, if LA can be disposed of by Vancouver... then you guys beat them... that takes care of LA and can mean an overtime game between us last game of the year puts us both in. It's at that point I expect both teams to run a vicious trap with 0 forecheckers and 1 defenseman each laying across the goal line behind Hiller and Pavelec.