2012/2013 English Premier League thread

[Nuje]

Originally Posted by azzarish

I love Suarez, but I cannot for one second defend that kind of behavior. I have no idea what he was thinking. I know he plays on the edge, with his heart on his sleeve, but you've got a responsibility to your team and to yourself to stay in control.

Just bizarre from Suarez. He lost control completely. It looks worse every time I see it, and he didn't even wait for the ball to come in to the box, it was still in play.

It hasn't gone down well with club at all. The next few days will tell a lot. I still think we should keep him, but we need to help him. I'm not really concerned about the vilification in the media, because that's been happening for ages. We just need to be clear where we stand with him and take it from there.

He's looking at a 10 match ban though.

Well, he almost has to be kept at this point. Surely this would not help his transfer value whatsoever. He's both an incredible talent, and a complete nut-job. Nothing else I can say here really.

[NBC]

Anyone wonder if Suarez actually thrives on controversy?

Luis Suarez bite: Liverpool striker apologises to Branislav Ivanovic

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22242464

Not sure what the FA is going to do since there wasn't any suspension when Jermain Defoe bit Javier Mascherano. Yellow card and nothing else. Will be interesting to see what happens.





http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ur/6076094.stm

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by NBC

Not sure what the FA is going to do since there wasn't any suspension when Jermain Defoe bit Javier Mascherano. Yellow card and nothing else. Will be interesting to see what happens.

You should try getting up to speed on the rules and reading your own links.

An FA spokesman said: "We are unable to take any action because the referee has already dealt with the incident. "Fifa regulations prevent us from taking retrospective action."

You watching the Villa game tonight?

[NBC]

Liverpool fine forward for biting Branislav Ivanovic

Liverpool have fined Luis Suarez for biting Chelsea defender Branislav Ivanovic but insist the striker still has a future at the club.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22248105

[The Big Chill]

Originally Posted by Bagor

You should try getting up to speed on the rules and reading your own links.



You watching the Villa game tonight?

You're always so pleasant. The point is that it is possible that it could be determined that the ref dealt with this incident too since he went right over to them when it happened.

[azzarish]

Originally Posted by Nuje

Well, he almost has to be kept at this point. Surely this would not help his transfer value whatsoever. He's both an incredible talent, and a complete nut-job. Nothing else I can say here really.

He already said a few days ago that he was staying at Liverpool. He's actually said it a few times. I don't think the club want to sell him either. I mean he's scored 30 goals this season, and he's a world class player. If they care about winning you can't sell someone like that. I think his desire to win at all costs just pushes him over the edge.

If they feel the club's reputation is being tarnished or damaged, it might be a different story.

For now they've come out and said the incident has no bearing on his future at the club, but he'll be helped.

[devo22]

pumped for tonight's game. Sealing the title that early would be neat!

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Bagor

You should try getting up to speed on the rules and reading your own links.



You watching the Villa game tonight?

Another idiotic Fifa rule.

The ref already gave him a yellow so now we are powerless to give any retroactive punishment.

Just so dumb.

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by The Big Chill

You're always so pleasant. The point is that it is possible that it could be determined that the ref dealt with this incident too since he went right over to them when it happened.

No, the point was he clearly didn't know the rules as stated by talking about a suspension in the context of a already delivered yellow card.

And pleasant? This is a dream ending to the season for me.

The icing on the cake would be if Handball Hannibal's goal costs Chelsea a top 4 finish.

And Matt, agreed. I can't think of any rational reason for that rule being in place.

And he's been charged.

It is alleged that the conduct of Suarez constitutes violent conduct and it is The FA’s contention that the standard punishment of three matches that would otherwise apply is clearly insufficient in these circumstances.

Suarez has until 6pm on Tuesday 23 April to respond to the charge, thereafter an Independent Regulatory Commission will be convened this Wednesday, 24 April.

http://www.thefa.com/News/governance...viSWcGgGYbQ.99

[The Big Chill]

Originally Posted by Bagor

No, the point was he clearly didn't know the rules as stated by talking about a suspension in the context of a already delivered yellow card.

The yellow card doesn't make a difference, except to show that the ref dealt with the incident. There doesn't HAVE to be a card though, as shown by the McManaman incident earlier this year where no foul was called, but the play was determined to have been dealt with. That could have been the case in Suarez's scenario, but it doesn't appear to be now that he has been charged.

[devo22]

van Persie is just an incredible striker.

[The Big Chill]

The interesting thing about the Defoe bite is that the FA said they could punish him further if they determined the incident to be "extraordinary".

"There won't be any further action taken against Jermain Defoe because we are not able to take any," an FA spokesman said after Soho Square took an entire day to conclude its deliberations. "If a referee deals with an incident, which he did, we are not allowed to retrospectively take disciplinary action in terms of upgrading or downgrading cards.

"The only exception to that is in terms of a very serious case, such as that of Ben Thatcher, where if the offence is deemed to be such that even if he had been sent off it would have warranted a further charge. In such a situation we can then bring that further charge. I don't think anyone is suggesting that that is the case here."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...wsstory.sport7

So, according to the FA's own words, Suarez shouldn't be banned for more then 3 games since biting an arm isn't outside of the regular violent conduct boundaries.

Just to be clear, I'm not attempting to defend him. It was wrong and he deserves the ban he gets, but it would be very hypocritical of the FA to ban him for more then 3 games.

[cam_wmh]

Originally Posted by NBC

Liverpool fine forward for biting Branislav Ivanovic

Liverpool have fined Luis Suarez for biting Chelsea defender Branislav Ivanovic but insist the striker still has a future at the club.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22248105

Apparently he just wanted a taste of Champions League.

[d_phaneuf]

@piersmorgan
And Van Pursestrings scores a 32-minute hat-trick. Great. Just ****ing GREAT.

@piersmorgan
'Hi Arsene, Alex here, can I have your best player to win the League?' 'Naturellement, Alex!' #WengerTheSeller #VanPursestrings

@piersmorgan
I'm actually trembling with fury. #VanPursestrings

@piersmorgan
Guard of honour... GUARD OF BLOODY HONOUR???????????????????????? #VanPursestrings

@piersmorgan
Arsenal fans should picture Gazidis & Wenger standing, smiling & applauding #VanPursestrings during his guard of honour. Then demand change.

@piersmorgan
Look at Ferguson - the fire/hunger still burns through every one of his blood red facial veins. I want a manager like that at Arsenal.

@piersmorgan
3-0 up, Champions, but Ferguson's still screaming furiously at his players. THAT'S the difference. #winner

A+ material

[NBC]

Originally Posted by cam_wmh

Apparently he just wanted a taste of Champions League.

That's pretty funny. Well done cam.

Further to this saga:

(from the BBC)

The FA said the match officials had not seen it during the game at Anfield and it had been "retrospectively reviewed".

It added that, while the standard punishment for violent conduct was a three-match ban, that was "clearly insufficient in these circumstances".

As I said earlier, it will be interesting to see what they do in this case. I've heard anywhere between 3-10 matches for this latest infraction. And I wish I could take credit for bringing up the Defoe-Mascherano angle, but that was all Alan Hansen on MOTD 2.

[d_phaneuf]

34 winners medals for Giggs

decent return

[Locke]

I think Piers Morgan needs to drink more.

[united]

[The Swedish Flame]

I was wondering who that old Manchester United supporter running around in a jersey on the pitch was. Then I realised that it's Ryan Giggs.

[Jagger]

Geez, I hate Man U with a passion but hats off to them, deserved Champions.

That was funny from the Frenchman too.