Edmonton is No Good VI: Chia•den•freu•de

[1qqaaz]

Patrice Bergeon: 16 points
Averages 18:03 minutes per game

Connor McDavid: 13 points
Averages 24:34 per game

Auston Matthews: 16 points
Averages 18:25 per game

David Pastrnak: 15 points
Averages 17:39 per game

One of these things is not like the other

[Samonadreau]

Patrice Bergeon: 16 points
% of in on team goals 52%

Connor McDavid: 13 points
% of in on team goals 72%

Auston Matthews: 16 points
% of in on team goals 42%

David Pastrnak: 15 points
% of in on team goals 48%

One of these things is not like the other.

And E=NG

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by FireGilbert

Yeah it is ridiculous how much ice time they are giving McDavid.

A top defenceman playing close to 30 minutes is no big deal. They get shifts in the offensive zone where little skating is required and can also sit back to conserve energy at times without hurting the team. A centre on the other hand is the most demanding position on the team. You are taking faceoffs, covering the other centre, supporting the wingers on the forecheck, supporting the defence on the backcheck, and generally just doing a lot of skating all over the rink. A centre cannot just relax on some of their shifts to conserve energy without consequences.

Double shifting McDavid may be keeping the Oilers heads above water and save McLellan's job for now but it is not sustainable long term.

Well, not always...

[AC]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1055124106675335169

Oilers have only lead for 7.02% of their games.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by AC

https://twitter.com/user/status/1055124106675335169

Oilers have only lead for 7.02% of their games.

That's pretty bad.

[Sutter_in_law]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

That's pretty bad.

it's no good!

[djsFlames]

I doubt Connor would break 90 points playing 18 minutes a night like most other top forwards.

25% more playing time is pretty significant.

Imo Sid is still number one.

[Locke]

Also, hes playing 24+ minutes. In October.

You're playing a centreman 24+ minutes a night, in October and you're still not winning.

Just give it up already.

[Red Slinger]

The top 20 scorers along with their total ice time and their average point per minute. This essentially indicates how effective they are offensively when they're on the ice:

Bergeron- 16 points, 162:35 ice time, point per minute .098
Rantanen- 16 points, 201:40, .079
Matthews- 16 points, 183:20, .087
Pastrnak- 15 points, 158:55, .095
MacKinnon- 15 points, 216:47, .070
Rielly- 14 points, 216:19, .065
Aho- 14 points, 172:32, .081
Carlson- 13 points, 211:36, .062
Malkin- 13 points, 126:51, .102
Backstrom- 13 points, 163:26, .079
McDavid- 13 points, 172:00, .076
Kane- 13 points, 192:39, .068
Ovechkin- 13 points, 163:58, .079
Marner- 13 points, 188:14, .069
Kuznetsov- 13 points, 161:37, .081
Marchand- 13 points, 167:42, .078
Voracek- 12 points, 173:59, .069
Gaudreau- 12 points, 181:28, .066
DeBrincat- 12 points, 163:38, .073
Landeskog- 12 points, 198:54, .060

McDavid is roughly in the middle of the pack when it comes to his average offensive effectiveness on the ice. Which would be fine for the Oilers except he is not only easily playing many more minutes per game (~20%) than most other top forwards, but he's also playing in all situations: 5 on 5, PP and SH. SH shifts in particular are going to be taxing. This guy is a prime candidate for burnout by Xmas.

[Split98]

^ It really is remarkable that they're playing (one of?) the best players in the world unbelievable minutes, and still can't find a way to hold a lead.

Legitimately, I don't know how long Connor puts up with this. He's already showed signs of cracking this year, and there are no signs that any part of their roster is holding much back. This is going to get much worse for Connor before the season is up.

They don't have the assets (outside of picks) for the players they need, don't have the cap space to sign them, and have shown no ability to develop themselves. The closest thing they have to a valuable piece they could use this year is Bear... and the closest they have to improving their forward depth is in the OHL. Connor must see all of this and have a pretty clear idea of where his career could go.

Does he demand a trade? Does he publicly shame his management into making roster moves? Can they even make the moves they need to? Does ownership ever let go of the old boys club sinking their franchise? Stay tuned.

[Hockeyguy15]

McDavid needs a haircut. That is all I have to add.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Split98

^ It really is remarkable that they're playing (one of?) the best players in the world unbelievable minutes, and still can't find a way to hold a lead.

Legitimately, I don't know how long Connor puts up with this. He's already showed signs of cracking this year, and there are no signs that any part of their roster is holding much back. This is going to get much worse for Connor before the season is up.

They don't have the assets (outside of picks) for the players they need, don't have the cap space to sign them, and have shown no ability to develop themselves. The closest thing they have to a valuable piece they could use this year is Bear... and the closest they have to improving their forward depth is in the OHL. Connor must see all of this and have a pretty clear idea of where his career could go.

Does he demand a trade? Does he publicly shame his management into making roster moves? Can they even make the moves they need to? Does ownership ever let go of the old boys club sinking their franchise? Stay tuned.

The real thing is:

They dont have anything they can surround Connor with in terms of talent.

And were they trade him? They'd be coming from a position of horrible weakness, they'd get taken to the cleaners on the return.

The Oilers are screwed either way.

Remove Connor McDavid from that roster and they're a middling AHL team.

[IliketoPuck]

Originally Posted by hockeyguy15

mcmullet needs a haircut. That is all i have to add.

fyp

[Firebot]

Originally Posted by Split98

^ It really is remarkable that they're playing (one of?) the best players in the world unbelievable minutes, and still can't find a way to hold a lead.

Legitimately, I don't know how long Connor puts up with this. He's already showed signs of cracking this year, and there are no signs that any part of their roster is holding much back. This is going to get much worse for Connor before the season is up.

They don't have the assets (outside of picks) for the players they need, don't have the cap space to sign them, and have shown no ability to develop themselves. The closest thing they have to a valuable piece they could use this year is Bear... and the closest they have to improving their forward depth is in the OHL. Connor must see all of this and have a pretty clear idea of where his career could go.

Does he demand a trade? Does he publicly shame his management into making roster moves? Can they even make the moves they need to? Does ownership ever let go of the old boys club sinking their franchise? Stay tuned.

He's also the Captain, and also knows that he is the best chance for the Oilers to win. If McLellan wants to play him 26 minutes, he will accept it, because he knows as soon as he is off the ice, the Oilers turn into an ECHL team. Management blew the ELC years and now are in cap hell with nowhere to go but further down.

By and large he's been taking it like a champ. He's no dummy. We may look back at him a few years down the line after he demands a trade and he becomes similar to Hall in becoming even greater outside the Oilers stench and the dark years will be forever be stories of lore.

Remember, he didn't pick this.

[topfiverecords]

Will Conner become the first ever player-Coach-GM-President?

[Locke]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Will Conner become the first ever player-Coach-GM-President?

Knowing the Oilers? Yes. I think its a solid prospect.

[getbak]

7 games into the season and their $2.5 million backup still hasn't seen a minute of action.

Kincaid in New Jersey (who makes half as much as Koskinen) is the only other goalie to have played every minute for his team, but there's a good reason for that, the Devils' other option is Eddie Lack.

[Split98]

Originally Posted by Locke

The real thing is:

They dont have anything they can surround Connor with in terms of talent.

And were they trade him? They'd be coming from a position of horrible weakness, they'd get taken to the cleaners on the return.

The Oilers are screwed either way.

Remove Connor McDavid from that roster and they're a middling AHL team.

When that happens, I'll bet it'll involve so many players and picks that we won't understand who the true winner was for years. The team that adds McDavid is the clear early winner though - and it's gonna be by a long shot.

[crapshoot]

Originally Posted by Split98

When that happens, I'll bet it'll involve so many players and picks that we won't understand who the true winner was for years. The team that adds McDavid is the clear early winner though - and it's gonna be by a long shot.

It would be so glorious if that trade is also one for one. McDavid for a much inferior player playing a position where the team is weak at the moment (every position). They can then hand off the c to Draisaitl slowly setting him up for the next one for one trade.

[jschick88]

Apparently Pool Party is a healthy scratch tonight. lol. Listening to paid shills at the beginning of the season, he was bound to break out!