2025/2026 Season Trade Rumours and Speculation Thread

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by Royle9

I get what you're saying.
But to be fair the "Not enough" and "Not good enough" are vastly different statements.

Yes, I was more extracting the "not good enough" assessment by the fact that the equivalent is Kerins.

Danielson and Kasper are really the only players on the RWs that I would want to chase but if the assessment is that neither player would hit the top 6 potential then trying to get the Sharks / Ducks / Mammoth involved is even more important.

[YyjFlames]

Originally Posted by Royle9

I'm not saying he's bad, but he's not enough to trade your leading scorer and proven playoff performer for.

Its just simply not enough.

I see him as a Rory Kerins equivalent at this point.
I fully expect him to be better, but its yet to be seen.

He'd be a piece of a trade I'd engage with the Red Wings on, but 1 for 1 is an absolute "oilersque" wild take.

Three months of Andersson for Danielson would be a great trade. Danielson is a young, bigger bodied right handed centre who skates a lot better than Kerins and has decent if not exceptional skill. He’s probably not going to develop into a superstar top line centre, but he’s almost a lock to play a reliable 2-way game with top six solid production.

His numbers from last year weren’t exceptional because he was super young and that team was one of the lower AHL scoring teams.

Push for more if Andersson is good to extend in Detroit, but I’d love to get a top centre prospect like Danielson.

Having Reschny and Danielson as Calgary’s 1-2 centres, centering high skill star wingers, wouldn’t be a bad thing if Calgary can’t find a way to get that superstar number 1.

[Sandman]

The Red Wings have a plethora of enticing young talent that they could give up in a trade without missing a beat, other than Danielson or Kasper:

Give me Brandsegg-Nygard, Kiiskinen, Bear, or Genborg and I’m happier than a pig in s**t.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Danielson is not even a .5ppg player in the AHL.
I get the draft hype around him, and yes he’s still young.
But any sort of 1 for 1 would be an absolute fail at this point.

Over value on him big time.

I agree. I am a fan of Brandsegg-Nygard, him and a pick would be great. I really hope Kasper is not something the Flames would consider as part of the return unless he is not the main piece of the deal.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by Sandman

The Red Wings have a plethora of enticing young talent that they could give up in a trade without missing a beat, other than Danielson or Kasper:

Give me Brandsegg-Nygard, Kiiskinen, Bear, or Genborg and I’m happier than a pig in s**t.

I don't want to yuck your yum... but those are all wingers.

I really believe that the priority for an Andersson trade needs to be a young C. We are unlikely to see a young C back in a Kadri trade, just look at what happens when someone suggests Kadri for Hage...

Coleman is also unlikely to bring back a strong C prospect just from the nature of wingers having less value than centers.

With this draft looking somewhat weak on centers (7-9 of them in the first round? Only 1 in the top 10?), it really adds to the pressure that Andersson brings back a C.

[Monahammer]

Brandsegg-Nylgard being a RHS RW who plays a power game makes him a much more attractive piece than the other wingers. Id still take Kasper but I see some wouldnt. I get it. I think Danielsen is asking too much.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Danielson is not even a .5ppg player in the AHL.
I get the draft hype around him, and yes he’s still young.
But any sort of 1 for 1 would be an absolute fail at this point.

Over value on him big time.

I disagree with this, I think Danielson has great upside. But I think the trade also makes more sense as a bit bigger deal, something like andersson+Mews for Danielson and Bear or their first.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by Wolven

I don't want to yuck your yum... but those are all wingers.

I really believe that the priority for an Andersson trade needs to be a young C. We are unlikely to see a young C back in a Kadri trade, just look at what happens when someone suggests Kadri for Hage...

Coleman is also unlikely to bring back a strong C prospect just from the nature of wingers having less value than centers.

With this draft looking somewhat weak on centers (7-9 of them in the first round? Only 1 in the top 10?), it really adds to the pressure that Andersson brings back a C.

Andersson isn’t going to return a strong center prospect, this is going to have to come from the draft. No one is going to trade a decent good center prospect for a UFA dman.

Any young strong center prospects, or young roster centerman, that have a high ceiling the Flames will need to add. But the main problem is that Andersson has come out he isn’t going to sign prior to free agency, that significantly lowers his return. I think we are going to have to temper expectations a bit on the return we get for Ras.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Brandsegg-Nylgard being a RHS RW who plays a power game makes him a much more attractive piece than the other wingers. Id still take Kasper but I see some wouldnt. I get it. I think Danielsen is asking too much.

I just noticed that even though Kasper and Danielson are in different draft classes, they are both 21 years old. Their birthdays are only 6 months apart (April to September of 2004).

If they were in the same draft, I wonder who would have been taken first?

Also, Geekie was drafted just after Kasper in the 2022 draft and then traded to TBL in 2024 for Sergachev. huh.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by Sandman

The Red Wings have a plethora of enticing young talent that they could give up in a trade without missing a beat, other than Danielson or Kasper:

Give me Brandsegg-Nygard, Kiiskinen, Bear, or Genborg and I’m happier than a pig in s**t.

It’s a pity that yzerman doesn’t take risks. He’s one of the most conservative GMs out there. Can see him hanging on to prospects until he has to walk them in order to not lose his depth, despite having obvious needs (he did that with Berggren). Only hope is that Larkin was pi$$ed last year over him standing pat.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

Andersson isn’t going to return a strong center prospect, this is going to have to come from the draft. No one is going to trade a decent good center prospect for a UFA dman.

Any young strong center prospects, or young roster centerman, that have a high ceiling the Flames will need to add. But the main problem is that Andersson has come out he isn’t going to sign prior to free agency, that significantly lowers his return. I think we are going to have to temper expectations a bit on the return we get for Ras.

You know how extensions work, right?

Andersson is not signing with the Flames but that doesn't mean he will not sign with another team. It has already been mentioned that he has a list of teams he is willing to sign with right now. "Right now" means he is willing to skip going to UFA.

Also, a team that might not be on his list right now could show up with an offer that changes his mind.

Instead of trying to be the wettest blanket in the conversation, you should keep in mind that RD is one of the hardest positions for teams to fill because more D are left shot instead of right shot. This is actually a good thing for the Flames as we are holding the top D on the trade board as well as on next summers' UFA board.

Spoiler!

Also, maybe try to contribute to the trade speculation instead of temper the fun as this thread is moving away from whatever the F was going on for the last 10 pages.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by Wolven

I don't want to yuck your yum... but those are all wingers.

I really believe that the priority for an Andersson trade needs to be a young C. We are unlikely to see a young C back in a Kadri trade, just look at what happens when someone suggests Kadri for Hage...

Coleman is also unlikely to bring back a strong C prospect just from the nature of wingers having less value than centers.

With this draft looking somewhat weak on centers (7-9 of them in the first round? Only 1 in the top 10?), it really adds to the pressure that Andersson brings back a C.

If you’re offered a top 6 young F for ras, you have to take it. You may as well ask for a unicorn back in a Ras trade as that or a top young C have as much likelihood of being the return.

Top teams aren’t trading a top C prospect for Ras. I really hope I’m wrong, but I would be stunned to see that kind of return for what will in all likelihood be a rental, or if traded to someone on his list, an inferior return because the acquiring team holds all the cards and knows it.

[Badgers Nose]

Ras wants to be the belle of the ball at Free Agency. It’s a once in a career opportunity for him.

The only way that doesn't happen is if a team offers more than what Ras and his agent have marked as best case scenario. Would any team really want him that much that they would over pay? Flames know him best and they don’t. Interested teams probably take their chances in free agency if big bucks are involved.

He gets traded as a rental. Conroy wants a 1st and a prospect or equivalent and that’s why the trade is taking so long. Teams are reluctant to pay that for a rental.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

If you’re offered a top 6 young F for ras, you have to take it. You may as well ask for a unicorn back in a Ras trade as that or a top young C have as much likelihood of being the return.

Top teams aren’t trading a top C prospect for Ras. I really hope I’m wrong, but I would be stunned to see that kind of return for what will in all likelihood be a rental, or if traded to someone on his list, an inferior return because the acquiring team holds all the cards and knows it.

I think that as well, but maybe I’m wrong. If we can get another 1st and a really good winger or defense prospect I think that’s what we should expect.

[ComixZone]

Pat said last night, that the Flames are not in sell mode. They’re in willing to listen mode.

I really hope the Flames fall on their damn faces for the next few weeks (and more genuinely, the rest of the year).

I think they should be in sell mode. Mushy middle should equate sell mode.

If we don’t sell, I think we’re back here next season having the same conversations around Coleman as being the piece we’ll be selling rather than Andersson this year.

I still firmly think this is the year to add that key piece to the young age group. Mushy middle finish this year should be an unacceptable result.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Pat said last night, that the Flames are not in sell mode. They’re in willing to listen mode.

In other words normal mode, as it should be.

The only pressing asset is Ras. Maybe Lombo to a lesser extent.

[Roko]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Pat said last night, that the Flames are not in sell mode. They’re in willing to listen mode.

Aka why many of us are pushing for more losses. Force their hand from this wishy washy approach.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

In other words normal mode, as it should be.

The only pressing asset is Ras. Maybe Lombo to a lesser extent.

It would be somewhat disturbing if they were in sell mode right now, so far out from the deadline, almost a sure fire sign of a fire sale. I am sure that Conroy has the aptitude to go from listening to dealing if someone actually comes to him with something serious.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by Wolven

You know how extensions work, right?

Andersson is not signing with the Flames but that doesn't mean he will not sign with another team. It has already been mentioned that he has a list of teams he is willing to sign with right now. "Right now" means he is willing to skip going to UFA.

Also, a team that might not be on his list right now could show up with an offer that changes his mind.

Instead of trying to be the wettest blanket in the conversation, you should keep in mind that RD is one of the hardest positions for teams to fill because more D are left shot instead of right shot. This is actually a good thing for the Flames as we are holding the top D on the trade board as well as on next summers' UFA board.

Spoiler!

Also, maybe try to contribute to the trade speculation instead of temper the fun as this thread is moving away from whatever the F was going on for the last 10 pages.

If you look at my post history I am always posting proposed trades for discussion. Saying Andersson is not going to return a top center prospect is not being a wet blanket, it’s being realistic. Top centers are almost always drafted, end of story.

The intent wasn’t to spark anything up with you. I think we should look at the Hanifin deal as a comparable. The Flames will get a better prospect back than what we got for Hanifin, but it’s probably close to the framework of what it will be.

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Pat said last night, that the Flames are not in sell mode. They’re in willing to listen mode.

Mushy middle mode aka Calgary Flames mode lol.