2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I'd really like to find a way to Land Breaden Schneider from the Rags too.

Edit : If I recall properly, that's who the Rangers took when the Flames traded down for Zary?

Yup and in fact everyone was petrified the Flames were going to take Schneider

[Redrum]

Flames needed some top end, and we need it even more now. So assuming all players have the same chance of breaking out we'd probably feel the exact same now. But Schneider turned out pretty damn good.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by traptor

I would interpret that as the results of the philosophy and not the philosophy itself.

The philosophy appears to be:

1. Don't lose any players for free.
1.1 Try and sign player
1.2 If player won't sign then trade the player

2. Get younger

3. Stay competitive

It seems that if Lindholm was willing to re-sign they would be interested in re-signing him. Alas, he is not.

I like most of the philosophy. I dont like 1.1.

That is fair, I would say 1.1 is even more nuanced than that. The Flames made almost no effort to sign Toffoli and Zadorov. It does not sound like major efforts have been made to sign Tanev. Efforts have certainly be made to sign Hanifin and it sounds like at the start of the year they had Lindholm pegged as a 70 point or so guy who would age well. The fact that those talks seem to have died off seems to indicate that this year has led to a re-evaluation of what Lindholm is.

[Moneyhands23]

Flames in Boston Tuesday...

Maybe we leave a guy or 2 there after the game

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

Flames in Boston Tuesday...

Maybe we leave a guy or 2 there after the game

Boston has zero cap space.

Any trades with then will likely be nearer the trade deadline and will need to be essentially cap neutral.

[Poe969]

Boston has no draft picks. I just don't see them as a fit imo.

[Bonded]

Kakko + Laf + 1st for Lindholm and Tanev

[Heavy Jack]

Originally Posted by Poe969

Boston has no draft picks. I just don't see them as a fit imo.

I’d totally be fine with a 2025 1st which they do have.

[Bonded]

Interesting thread on Kakko. Apparently his stick is stupid short.
https://forums.hfboards.com/threads/...stick.2907879/

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

I’d totally be fine with a 2025 1st which they do have.

Boston is always good, but they're also a team that can conceivably collapse at any time. I'd actually put more value on picks that are more distant in the future.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Kakko + Laf + 1st for Lindholm and Tanev

Start. The. Car.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Interesting thread on Kakko. Apparently his stick is stupid short.
https://forums.hfboards.com/threads/...stick.2907879/

Trade for Kakko, force him to use a longer stick, and make out like bandits!

[Heavy Jack]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Boston is always good, but they're also a team that can conceivably collapse at any time. I'd actually put more value on picks that are more distant in the future.

Paired with the fact that Bedards supposedly better cousin is up for draft in 2025, the more 1st that year the merrier. You’d probs be able to convince Boston to only top 5 protect it too.

[devo22]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Kakko + Laf + 1st for Lindholm and Tanev

just can't keep building around wingers. No thanks.

And IF a winger comes back from the Rangers, I'd want Othmann.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by devo22

just can't keep building around wingers. No thanks.

And IF a winger comes back from the Rangers, I'd want Othmann.

Who is building a team by trading rentals?

Don’t expect core pieces coming back.

That would be a decent return

[Heavy Jack]

Still though, that’s not the worst package for two players likely to be moving on. Kakko and Laff definitely have their warts but I’d be ok with that return so long as Conroy prioritized a young center return with Hanifin.

Edit: also, I think it’s a pipe dream to expect a return like that partly because I don’t want to get my hopes up. If a 30 yo UFA and a 34 yo UFA at 50 percent retention net you two under 25 yo wingers both of whom were drafted either 1OA or 2 OA in their respective draft years AND a 1st is included as well you start the car lol.

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Kakko + Laf + 1st for Lindholm and Tanev

I could see Kakko and 1st coming back for that package. Laf is an overkill.

[Monahammer]

I got ragged a lot in the summer for harping on this, but it is painful that Maloney is still involved at the top. Should have been put out to pasture.

[Vinny01]

Rangers need centers so I do see a fit with Lindholm especially at 50% of his cap hit. Kakko would be a fine return with a 2nd or another prospect tossed in.

I would like the Flames to take a chance on a 22 year old former top pick that can impact the team instantly vs a very late 1st that is likely at least 3+ years away from making the team let alone making a large impact

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I got ragged a lot in the summer for harping on this, but it is painful that Maloney is still involved at the top. Should have been put out to pasture.

Maloney hire always worried me, he didn't do much for Arizona's success and his relationship with Brad when they were both there didn't amount to much success.

His seemingly reluctance to commit to anything impactful continues to be haunt me in terms of which direction this team will go now that their backs are up against the wall with a plethora of high profile UFA's and trade targets.

I mean Calgary has 3 of the top 5 trade bait targets with Lindholm sitting at #1 and there's still chatter of the Flames "unsure" what they want to do. I pray its posturing to drive up the value, but Maloney meddling in decisions scares me too.