01-04-2026, 02:15 AM
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#18641
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Groot
We have plenty of bodies if we trade Coleman away. Do not trade for expired moldy bread that isn't even good enough for the Oilers non-existant depth.
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Gridin is way better than Mangiapane
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01-04-2026, 02:54 AM
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#18642
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 442scotty
I can’t believe there’s a sucker out there willing to take Mangiapane. He’s so done.
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I can’t believe Washington took him.
Dude had a pretty decent shot but couldn’t make a pass worth his life, and would fall even if he had the chance to make
One.
Good for him to grab as much cash out of this as he could
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01-04-2026, 07:42 AM
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#18643
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by traptor
Yes both sides if the argument get talked about 1200 times a day. If its such an issue for you why are you contributing to the convo?
That's not a fact. That's your opinion. And although I hope youre right, I dont think its the most realistic outlook. Also this management is going to want to start adding eventually via UFA and trades, especially with the arena on the horizon. I doubt their looking to bottom out in the first year of the new arena. That leaves this year and maybe next.
I generally agree, we shouldn't be over paying for aassets. I might make an exception for a bonafide blue chip young 1c (which almost certainly won't be available anyways).
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I think you’re right.
The window to bottom out is this year and maybe next. After that I suspect we will see exactly, or pretty close to it, the same sort of management we’ve seen for the previous two decades. Chasing UFA’s, trading pics for ‘win now’ pieces. The Flames are in a unique position right now because of the arena. Once they are there I think there will be considerable pressure from up top to make the playoffs. If there is any grace from ownership for them to finish low, it’s now.
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01-04-2026, 07:54 AM
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#18644
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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‘Twas the hairplugs that sent Mangiapane off the tracks!
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01-04-2026, 07:57 AM
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#18645
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by Wolven
Absolutely.
I still believe that the priority for the return for Andersson needs to be a young C with top line potential. If we need to bundle Andersson with another asset (Vegas 1st?) to make that happen, then so be it.
Trading him for a good return is important but trading him in a way that addresses the organizations biggest need (especially while he is playing as well as he is right now) would be the clutch GM move that the Flames really needs, especially when looking at the upcoming draft class.
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I doubt you will find a team willing to trade a 1st line potential center for Andersson, if you were on the other side, would you make that trade.
It needs to happen through the draft, there is no other way around that
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01-04-2026, 08:15 AM
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#18646
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Not saying Gavin McKenna is going to be the next Connor McDavid, probably not, but for an organization starving for a marketing angle, imagine all the young Calgarians wearing a Gavin McKenna, if he turns out as projected, it's 100 percent worth positioning yourself at the draft this year for a shot at him.
I live in Edmonton and see what Connor has done for this franchise, it's massive, for baloney to come out and say McKenna might not work out, it just screams marching orders from ownership, this org seems hell bent on making playoffs, even if it costs them perpetual mediocrity.
Hoping that Andersson is traded sooner that later
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01-04-2026, 10:01 AM
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#18647
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by browntrout
I doubt you will find a team willing to trade a 1st line potential center for Andersson, if you were on the other side, would you make that trade.
It needs to happen through the draft, there is no other way around that
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Not exactly true. If you have a team that covets Andersson, and the Flames have to add to obtain a high potential center that is buried, you pull that trigger. Even if that means trading our late 1st, or a nice prospect from a place of positional strength.
If calgary offered the overpay of andersson, 1st and Mews I don't think that there wouldn't be a pause in any GM with established center depth.
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01-04-2026, 10:20 AM
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#18648
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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I wonder if Nashville is willing to retain on Stamkos. Stamkos at 4 million to a contender would probably be a sweet fit.
Not a contender but randomly just thought of Anaheim as a potentially good fit for him to ride off into the sunset. I bet he could pot a lot of goals in 2 years on the wing there.
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For whatever it's worth, I used to be in Mensa and I agree completely.
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01-04-2026, 10:46 AM
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#18649
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent
Well anybody with a strong opinion gets chewed out immediately most of the time. So if the goal is community growth, maybe we need to work on our tolerance for fans of all philosophies. Even if they want to burn the whole thing down for picks.
The new posters I've noticed have been in that corner, but they're treated like trolls because they don't provide the homework to support their position that the regulars expect.
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It's a discussion forum.
People log in to discuss things. They give opinions.
If you present an idea that people disagree with you'll get a response pointing to things they don't agree with.
That isn't chewing someone out. That isn't treating someone like a troll. It's giving them exactly what they signed up for.
Maybe you should invent uncontestedpuck.com for those that want to give opinions but not have to defend them in any way.
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01-04-2026, 10:48 AM
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#18650
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Franchise Player
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Imagine for a second the Flames do well in the lottery and are able to draft an elite prospect who is good enough for the NHL right away.
How many new wingers would you expect to see in the top 9 vs. what the team is icing today?
Gridin
Honzek
New top draft pick
That doesn't consider guys like Stromgren who have to be given a chance eventually.
All six of the current top 9 wingers are on contracts with term extending beyond this year. Surely some bodies will have to get shipped out even without winning the lottery.
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01-04-2026, 10:53 AM
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#18651
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
They’re not trying to get better.
They’re also not deliberately trying to finish bottom of the league.
Whenever anyone wants to talk about the second point, people bring up the first.
If people don’t want to talk about the second point, that’s cool. But no need to misrepresent the stance of the people who do.
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I agree with both statements 100%
But that's not a team hoping to be in the mushy middle as they'd have to add and improve to do that.
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01-04-2026, 10:57 AM
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#18652
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason14h
But do you have the challenge it every day 50 times ? We all get it by now.
At least challenge by providing some actual stats or research to provide something mildly interesting to the thread . Trust me - everyone knows you opinion.
And talk about “what is actually happening “ - NOTHING is or has happened for 18 months . Yet you still post 50 times a day !
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I think all of us have to ask ourselves if it's worth fighting the fight over and over again.
I certainly get that argument.
But he couldn't challenge something 50 times a day if it wasn't offered up on repeat 50 times a day.
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01-04-2026, 11:09 AM
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#18653
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
Imagine for a second the Flames do well in the lottery and are able to draft an elite prospect who is good enough for the NHL right away.
How many new wingers would you expect to see in the top 9 vs. what the team is icing today?
Gridin
Honzek
New top draft pick
That doesn't consider guys like Stromgren who have to be given a chance eventually.
All six of the current top 9 wingers are on contracts with term extending beyond this year. Surely some bodies will have to get shipped out even without winning the lottery.
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For sure.
I think that teams that draft 10 times a year in say three straight years create a bit of a prospect log jam that needs to be thinned. You crowd out your development space.
The key is "giving up" on the correct players.
Iginla asked Conroy when they were moving players 2 years ago ... "how many picks is too many picks?"
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01-04-2026, 11:10 AM
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#18654
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by Bingo
I agree with both statements 100%
But that's not a team hoping to be in the mushy middle as they'd have to add and improve to do that.
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But they were in the mushy middle last year without adding and are trending towards it this year as well. I don't think we can really say what they hope to do since actions do not always align with words from team management or from media insiders giving insight into team management. They seem to be reacting one day a time based on team play rather than having a larger plan. They seem to be okay with mushy middle as long as there is a chance for making the playoffs and what worries me is that the recent play is probably more indicative of the quality of the team then the play at the beginning of the year. If we want to avoid the mushy middle based on the quality of the current team then we need to talk about what the team can do to deliberately lose. It doesn't have to be a fire sale but it is becoming more and more apparently that simply not adding is only going stretch out how long it takes to re-build. I am not sure that losing one good dman in Anderson would not be enough to for the team to get a top 5 pick either.
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01-04-2026, 11:13 AM
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#18655
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DropIt
Mangiapane for Sharangovich!
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For fun...
Sharangovich 27yo, .53PPG career, 5.75M for the next 4 seasons (10 team no trade list).
Mangiapane 29yo, .47PPG career, 3.6M for one more season (no trade clause).
Personally, I've never cared much for Mangiapane as he's always had trouble staying on 2 feet.
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01-04-2026, 11:13 AM
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#18656
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ST20
But they were in the mushy middle last year without adding and are trending towards it this year as well. I don't think we can really say what they hope to do since actions do not always align with words from team management or from media insiders giving insight into team management. They seem to be reacting one day a time based on team play rather than having a larger plan.
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What is the evidence of them reacting one day at a time?
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01-04-2026, 11:14 AM
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#18657
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Bingo
It's a discussion forum.
People log in to discuss things. They give opinions.
If you present an idea that people disagree with you'll get a response pointing to things they don't agree with.
That isn't chewing someone out. That isn't treating someone like a troll. It's giving them exactly what they signed up for.
Maybe you should invent uncontestedpuck.com for those that want to give opinions but not have to defend them in any way.
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While I agree with everything you said, it does seem there are a handful of posters who try to gate keep and do not want any negativity about the Flames posted. They are like sharks lurking around the forum, ready to pounce if you criticize anything.
A lot of the posts back and forth are actually productive. But I think some people get way too emotional and turn to insults if they do not agree with you.
I have no problem with any name calling, but I find it funny that 80% of my posts are replied to by the same 5 or so posters ready to attack lol. If constructive criticism of the team gets you that riled up, it seems odd to me.
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01-04-2026, 11:14 AM
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#18658
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
Imagine for a second the Flames do well in the lottery and are able to draft an elite prospect who is good enough for the NHL right away.
How many new wingers would you expect to see in the top 9 vs. what the team is icing today?
Gridin
Honzek
New top draft pick
That doesn't consider guys like Stromgren who have to be given a chance eventually.
All six of the current top 9 wingers are on contracts with term extending beyond this year. Surely some bodies will have to get shipped out even without winning the lottery.
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I would really like to see Kerins get a much longer look in the lineup as well. That would be a benefit to moving Kadri, he would likely be able to slot into the 3rd line center slot to get a true read on him.
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01-04-2026, 11:16 AM
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#18659
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cowtown
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo
I agree with both statements 100%
But that's not a team hoping to be in the mushy middle as they'd have to add and improve to do that.
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If the flames play lines up with their record in November (an in between value compared to their dismal October and hot December) that gives them a .533 points %.
Extrapolate that over the remaining 41 games leads to 43.7 (44) points or a season total of 85 points. Last year 85 points would be good for a 22nd place finish.
I see that as a fairly reasonable prediction depending on if/when any vets are being traded.
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Originally Posted by puckhog
Everyone who disagrees with you is stupid
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01-04-2026, 11:18 AM
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#18660
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Memento Mori
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
ETA: My average is something like 16 posts.
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I just took a quick look, you have the most recent join date of any of the top posters and your posts/day far outpace any of the other top posters.
So yeah I think it's not unwarranted that people think you post a lot.
Hey you do you. And I do not mean that in any sort of negative tone.
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