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Old 01-30-2024, 01:58 PM   #18641
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Well that made me sick. Monahan to the Oilers?? Eff right off with that horse crap.
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Old 01-30-2024, 02:00 PM   #18642
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I don't believe the rumours that they are shopping Zadorov UNLESS they have a deal lined up for a replacement already in place.
Zadorov with 50% retention + Vancouver's 2024 1st for Tanev.

Flames then trade Zadorov for a 2nd and a 3rd.
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Old 01-30-2024, 02:45 PM   #18643
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Is that what you think or something you're hearing? I've heard it's the exact opposite. The teams that want him don't have the cap or willingness to sign lindholm. The current market is teams wiling to pay a rental price for a $2.3mil two way centre for a cup run.
That is what I think, that was why I used the term. I have heard nothing in regards to teams intentions on how they see Lindholm long term.
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Old 01-30-2024, 02:48 PM   #18644
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If monohan goes to the knights, I don't really care that much. I don't hate the knights.

But if goes to Edmonton....i might actually get emotional.

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Well that made me sick. Monahan to the Oilers?? Eff right off with that horse crap.
He is a good fit for them unfortunately. Hopefully he'd nix it
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Old 01-30-2024, 02:49 PM   #18646
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Fair enough I may be giving Johansen too much negative value. He is negative vlaue tho for sure, and likely need to be moved for cap space for any big swing.
Yeah, but he if someone takes him they can flip him out next deadline and he would only carry a cap hit of 2 million if they retained another 50%
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Old 01-30-2024, 03:04 PM   #18647
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Frank Seravalli was on a podcast today and in his opinion said he could see someone like Sean Monahan going to the Oilers to play in the 3rd line center role as the AAV is low and the acquisition cost wouldn't be like what it is for Lindholm.
It's a 1st round pick. Montreal has put that out there. It's outrageous, not sure they'll get it, but they did for Ben Chariot so what do I know.
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Old 01-30-2024, 03:10 PM   #18648
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If monohan goes to the knights, I don't really care that much. I don't hate the knights.

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Seeing Monahan's goofy smile in an Oilers' jersey is just wrong.
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Does Monahan have any trade protection?
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Old 01-30-2024, 03:16 PM   #18650
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So you think they should have just let him go in UFA?
Nope. But I do think the dollar value was high on his first and only NHL season riding the shooting percentage he had... Especially given how public he was around how much he liked being in Vancouver.
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I think it was Top Shelf Hockey mentioned chatter about Monahan to the Rangers. He didn't have a confirmed source other than it being random internet chatter.

I hope Monahan gets to chase a Cup, anywhere but in Edmonton though.
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The Flames should offer to act as a go-between and retain part of his salary and then hold on to him and refuse to complete the trade to Edmonton.

Although, if Monahan is now just a powerplay specialist whose 200 foot game is gone, is that really something the Oilers need to add?
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Old 01-30-2024, 03:38 PM   #18653
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Monahan to the Oilers doesn't make any sense to me anyway.

He's got 17 ES points despite playing 18+ minutes per night, which isn't good production.

He's slow. He's not particularly good at two way play. Not a great PK guy.

Only good aspect is right-handed for faceoffs and good on the PP.

Seems like he would be a better fit with a team that needs PP help like Winnipeg.
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Nope. But I do think the dollar value was high on his first and only NHL season riding the shooting percentage he had... Especially given how public he was around how much he liked being in Vancouver.

It's a no win situation if the player falls the way Kuzmenko has. With hindsight it's easy to say too much, but at the time in those situations you just don't have much choice when a player over performs on their first NHL contract. Canucks would essentially disqualify themselves from future professional free agents coming over from Europe if they cut rope after playing hard ball.


I'd agree with your sentiment more if it was a long term deal, but two years at the cap hit he signed at was reasonable amount even accounting for some regression. That he fell off a cliff was not something you bank on.


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Although, if Monahan is now just a powerplay specialist whose 200 foot game is gone

It never existed to begin with.
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Marek was speculating today that Hertl to the Flames might be a thing. I don't mind it depending on cost of acquisition.
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THat's a pretty big sign for not even a re-tool, if true.
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Old 01-30-2024, 03:59 PM   #18657
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Frank Seravalli was on a podcast today and in his opinion said he could see someone like Sean Monahan going to the Oilers to play in the 3rd line center role as the AAV is low and the acquisition cost wouldn't be like what it is for Lindholm.
let me guess an Edmonton podcast, I don't see it
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Thats exactly what we need another player making over 8M till they're 37.
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Monahan to the Oilers doesn't make any sense to me anyway.

He's got 17 ES points despite playing 18+ minutes per night, which isn't good production.

He's slow. He's not particularly good at two way play. Not a great PK guy.

Only good aspect is right-handed for faceoffs and good on the PP.

Seems like he would be a better fit with a team that needs PP help like Winnipeg.
Monahan shoots left.
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Lmao what a flames thing to do.


Go after 30 year old Hertl, signed until his late 30s.
That would be terrible.

Thankfully Merek has never had a good flames take.
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