01-03-2026, 05:41 PM
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#18601
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
I think Kadri is an upgrade on Cozens. They have similar points now but Kadri has done that with Farabee and Coronato/Sharangovich. Put Kadri between Tkachuk and Batherson like Cozens has right now and see what he does.
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Don’t disagree with that at all but what Ottawa really needs is Weegar imo. Watch a lot of their games living in Ottawa region, their top 9 are real good. Suspect Giroux signs hometown discount deals until he cannot produce anymore. The Pinto line might be the best 3rd line in hockey. Top 6 are fine too. Goaltending sucks but it is hard for them to fix that. But you slide Weegar beside Chabot and they have a pretty solid team.
They play Batherson with Cozens and Tkachuk with Stutzle too, Green rarely loads it up.
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01-03-2026, 05:42 PM
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#18602
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
I just think Ottawa is likely not on his NT list. He likes Canada. And he's from Ontario. I've never heard that he doesn't want to go to Ottawa. TBF, he's move resistant even when he likes a city, which is why he refused to waive for Calgary, hoping it would result in him not being traded at all from Toronto.
No one likes Edmonton, that's not a fair argument. Ottawa is a very nice city, not a dump.
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It's a fine city. And yes, Edmonton isn't a fair comparison.
I was just giving you the hard time you deserved for saying you 'know' he would want to go there.
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01-03-2026, 05:43 PM
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#18603
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by Aarongavey
Was it Kadri’s preference to stay in Calgary last year as well when he had absolute control on whether he could be traded or not?
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Yes.
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01-03-2026, 05:44 PM
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#18604
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
I just think Ottawa is likely not on his NT list. He likes Canada. And he's from Ontario. I've never heard that he doesn't want to go to Ottawa. TBF, he's move resistant even when he likes a city, which is why he refused to waive for Calgary, hoping it would result in him not being traded at all from Toronto.
No one likes Edmonton, that's not a fair argument. Ottawa is a very nice city, not a dump.
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Ottawa also has a large Lebanese community, suspect Kadri would be fine going to the Sens. Just think the Sens would probably be looking at other Flames assets if they were to make a trade with Calgary.
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01-03-2026, 05:45 PM
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#18605
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
Yes.
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Thanks for clarifying that Kadri wanted to stay in Calgary when he had absolute control and the Flames required his permission to move him. That black and white clarification will be very helpful moving forward. Guess we never had a realistic chance to trade him last year.
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01-03-2026, 05:47 PM
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#18606
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Royle9
I’d argue that 20+ teams would make offers if Craig came out and declared both guys are 100% available.
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I'm sure you are right, but Flames don't seem to want that kind of attention. They don't want a fire sale sign up, the distraction that brings.
The time they did it with Iggy was pretty ugly.
Money, Johnny, Matty happened so fast, and there was no sign up - but it was ugly too. There was def a 'no one wants to be in Calgary' story out there.
Now that vibes are good, I just can't see the team intentionally messing with that.
If Kadri or Coleman are traded it will for sure be a Minnesota style, offer they can't refuse, out of left field, insiders had no idea it was coming, sort of thing.
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01-03-2026, 05:49 PM
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#18607
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
It's a fine city. And yes, Edmonton isn't a fair comparison.
I was just giving you the hard time you deserved for saying you 'know' he would want to go there.
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Fair.
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01-03-2026, 05:59 PM
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#18608
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aarongavey
Was it Kadri’s preference to stay in Calgary last year as well when he had absolute control on whether he could be traded or not?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
Yes.
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After the last generation of core Flames players was blown up, lot's of media people interpreted that as 'Calgary star players left because no one wants to play for the Flames. Bad building, no glory, dim future.'
It probably means a lot to the Flames that certain players bet on the team, and came out to defend it and the city. Guys like Kadri, Weegar, Coleman are people the Flames probably feel they owe something to. More-so than just a contractual obligation.
And it seems they still want to be here.
Maybe an added thought that goes into this; people talk after they leave. If those 'no one wants to play for Calgary' stories return and you have good players like Kadri and Coleman that talk about how they wanted to stay and were talked into leaving... that's an ugly look.
Now hurry up and get us a Carlo like return for Ras, Connie!
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01-03-2026, 06:05 PM
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#18609
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: I don't belong here
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I think we can assume that if they don't trade Coleman this year, he is as good as gone by the 2027 trade deadline. I have no qualms with the Flames waiting until the last year of a players contract to trade them, especially with players like Coleman who has stated that they like it here and would love to stay here.
I also don't think they should wait until the last year to trade every player either but we don't really know what is out there for trade value for each player until a trade has been completed.
I think it is reasonable to say Conroy won't wait until Kadri's final contract year to trade him. As early as next year there should be a solid young core that needs less veterans around the team. The Flames aren't doing your typical tear everything down and use crappy players to try to lose on purpose method of rebuilding. They're methodically moving pieces at strategic times that allows them to slowly rebuild. I'm on the fence as to which is the best way to do it. I think there is merit to both ways and I'm willing to be patient with the Flames to see how things turn out in a few years... that said, I want to see some trades!
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01-03-2026, 06:15 PM
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#18610
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aarongavey
Don’t disagree with that at all but what Ottawa really needs is Weegar imo. Watch a lot of their games living in Ottawa region, their top 9 are real good. Suspect Giroux signs hometown discount deals until he cannot produce anymore. The Pinto line might be the best 3rd line in hockey. Top 6 are fine too. Goaltending sucks but it is hard for them to fix that. But you slide Weegar beside Chabot and they have a pretty solid team.
They play Batherson with Cozens and Tkachuk with Stutzle too, Green rarely loads it up.
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Trading weegar would be the right thing to do if we want to really secure a high pick. Yes, we would lose leadership and a mentor for the young kids. But you would think that we would be able to get a future heavy return from Ottawa if we offered him up. Imagine they would be loathe to trade their 2026 first given their position in the standings. Unlikely to happen but I agree, that’s what Ottawa (and probably other teams) need right now. And provided you get a return to warrant trading weegar, would keep us out of the mushy middle. Would be concerned about who would mentor Parekh but probably don’t need to worry about it.
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01-03-2026, 06:18 PM
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#18611
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by The Original FFIV
Trading weegar would be the right thing to do if we want to really secure a high pick. Yes, we would lose leadership and a mentor for the young kids. But you would think that we would be able to get a future heavy return from Ottawa if we offered him up. Imagine they would be loathe to trade their 2026 first given their position in the standings. Unlikely to happen but I agree, that’s what Ottawa (and probably other teams) need right now. And provided you get a return to warrant trading weegar, would keep us out of the mushy middle. Would be concerned about who would mentor Parekh but probably don’t need to worry about it.
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They don’t even have their first this year. Forfeited it in the Dadonov debacle
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01-03-2026, 06:25 PM
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#18612
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
Then someone needs to step up and offer a compelling package for Andersson. I want him dealt too, but not just for the sake of trading. We need to get good value for him.
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Absolutely.
I still believe that the priority for the return for Andersson needs to be a young C with top line potential. If we need to bundle Andersson with another asset (Vegas 1st?) to make that happen, then so be it.
Trading him for a good return is important but trading him in a way that addresses the organizations biggest need (especially while he is playing as well as he is right now) would be the clutch GM move that the Flames really needs, especially when looking at the upcoming draft class.
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01-03-2026, 06:25 PM
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#18613
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Heavy Jack
Here’s to hoping the flames have an exciting team full of stars for the new building! I think we are on the right path for sure but it would be nice to get that generational top pick for once; it’ll be interesting to see how January plays out here; feel bad that McDavid fever is getting your sons attention and it’s almost unavoidable but Parehk and Wolf are giving me a ton of hope; really if we can land that one super elite forward I think the future is quite bright when you start looking at the list of young talent we’ve amassed
Wolf
Coronato
Zary
Brzustewicz
Kuznetzov
Parehk
Bahl
Reschny
Potter
Klapka
Honzek
All these players have already or IMO will play meaningful nhl games; flames look to have found a potential gem in Wyttenbach too and I’m personally very excited to see Stromgren finally get a nhl shot. The future is evidently appearing to be brighter which is exciting to see heading into the new arena, hopefully we can add a big game-changer prospect to an already decently full cupboard.
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The thing is, that ideally has to be a centre, but even a super elite winger, but...how? How do we get that? The odds are massively against you in finding that player outside of the top of the draft.
It's why I'm so pro sell-off this year (shockingly) - because we could get that this season, and like you note...it's the piece that we really need to round out the potential foundation - and just imagine what things would look like if say Kadri and Andersson both go and we do hit a top-3 pick. We'd be in a position where things can really start coming together - whereas right now/in the near future, without that super elite forward, I don't see them being able to counter Father Times impact on Kadri/Coleman or get better than what they are/have been.
We need that catalyst up front. Need it.
I just look at McKenna and that's it in my eyes. If we get him I see the DNA of the team coming together completely. If we trade #4 and #91, heck - keep Coleman and even extend him into his later years in a support role...and like, he's (McKenna) a Flames fan and it has been reported he'd be stoked to be a Flame. It's all so perfect. As a fanbase, god that'd be awesome to get.
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01-03-2026, 06:31 PM
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#18614
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It would be nice to have some skilled forwards going into a new building. The timing is right to find that now.
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01-03-2026, 06:31 PM
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#18615
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Badgers Nose
I'm sure you are right, but Flames don't seem to want that kind of attention. They don't want a fire sale sign up, the distraction that brings.
The time they did it with Iggy was pretty ugly.
Money, Johnny, Matty happened so fast, and there was no sign up - but it was ugly too. There was def a 'no one wants to be in Calgary' story out there.
Now that vibes are good, I just can't see the team intentionally messing with that.
If Kadri or Coleman are traded it will for sure be a Minnesota style, offer they can't refuse, out of left field, insiders had no idea it was coming, sort of thing.
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When you think about the public relations nightmare that is tied to being a hockey team in a Canadian market, there is no way Conroy would publicly say "fire sale" or anything along those lines. He can't come out and say "we are looking to trade Kadri and Coleman" because even if these guys are willing to move, they have control in the conversation and could block a trade.
If that all becomes public then it turns into a toxic situation between the fans, organization, and the players. Media goofs like Francis would be asking hourly about the potential trades... yuck. And then if the trades do not happen, the blame game amplifies, similar to what has been going on in this thread (and its predecessor) for the last 8 months.
Publicly, Conroy and team should say absolutely nothing even if the fire sale sign is up behind closed doors when talking to the other GMs.
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01-03-2026, 06:58 PM
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#18616
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Franchise Player
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How about sign Anderson and trade Parekh to SJ as the centrepiece in a deal for Misa…
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01-03-2026, 07:01 PM
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#18617
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Jason14h
How about sign Anderson and trade Parekh to SJ as the centrepiece in a deal for Misa…
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How about keep Parekh, trade Andersson for picks, and then draft the next Misa?
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01-03-2026, 07:10 PM
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#18618
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
How about keep Parekh, trade Andersson for picks, and then draft the next Misa?
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Sure but we have to be really bad for that - and it doesn’t look like that’s a direction the team is going to ever go
Maybe we need to consider more abstract options to get the elusive #1 C
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01-03-2026, 07:14 PM
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#18619
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Jason14h
Sure but we have to be really bad for that - and it doesn’t look like that’s a direction the team is going to ever go
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1) you don't get better by overpaying for assets (which is the only way we'd get Misa)
2) being bad is self-correcting. If they don't get a top pick this year, they'll be even worse next year, because Backlund, Coleman, Kadri and Huberdeau will all be a year older. Hell, they'll be worse next year regardless.
The good players are coming. It might take longer than we want, but it will happen. Getting impatient and making bad trades is not the way to go.
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01-03-2026, 07:43 PM
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#18620
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
1) you don't get better by overpaying for assets (which is the only way we'd get Misa)
2) being bad is self-correcting. If they don't get a top pick this year, they'll be even worse next year, because Backlund, Coleman, Kadri and Huberdeau will all be a year older. Hell, they'll be worse next year regardless.
The good players are coming. It might take longer than we want, but it will happen. Getting impatient and making bad trades is not the way to go.
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Not necessarily. We've been thinking that for the last few years.
As the old group gets older, so do the kids develop and offset that drop.
Players like Parehk, Gridin and Reschny will show up over the next couple years.
Wolf, coronato, Frost, kuz will continue to establish themselves.
There is a very real possibility we just keep treading water as a 15th-25th place year year to year. We're already on year 4 of that.
That's why some of us want management to stack the deck in a certain direction and do more, faster to ensure a shift.
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