[Trade] Hanifin (salary retained) to Vegas for Miromanov + 2026 1st + cond 3rd

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Why would he play a game.

He's passing on what he's hearing.

Maybe the player has more value than the CP experts that have never heard of the player until 815pm last night.

Seems unlikely that hockey people would know more about this guy.

[Flame On]

The one bad thing about all the conditions is it will limit Conroy's ability to combine 1st's for trading down potentially.
Not saying that was a plan to do that but makes it harder.

[Jiggy_12]

Originally Posted by bluejays

SMH. Sounds like Friedman playing the game. Guy is 26. Buried or not what are the chances he’s a gem at this point.

Not a Friedman guy myself, but I can't see what game he'd be playing with that comment.

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by mdubz

Friedman just mentioned a lot of teams were wanting Miromanov and Conroy wanted him as the centrepiece in the deal.

Sounds like PR spin to me. Players like this are on waivers all the time.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

The Giordano path of development happens now and then.

If he's been buried/pushed down, that's not his fault. It's worth the look for a couple of years just to see if he can run with a steady NHL opportunity.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by All In Good Time

As was mentioned before though, a team is interested in a trade for Hanifin, asks Conroy permission to inquire about a contract, Conroy has 2 options:
1. Say no and most likely it ends there.
2. Say yes then when the agent is asked the agent says it isnt likely.

I think in the future GMs are going to want to think those requests over carefully. Like "you can talk to see what their offers might be but you can't tell them they are out of the running". Which is hard to control, but GMs talk to each other. Agents are going to have to be careful too, because they will risk burning too many bridges. Brisson may have screwed Hanifin here and he might be in the Gaudreau situation in the off season - no offer from his desired team and underwhelming offers from other places. And no 8 year deal, obviously.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

Sounds like PR spin to me. Players like this are on waivers all the time.

I think we can withhold judgement until we watch him play. Unless youre following the silver knights closely this and last year.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by mdubz

Friedman just mentioned a lot of teams were wanting Miromanov and Conroy wanted him as the centrepiece in the deal.

Yup that's bulllllll####.

Like, points for trying... but that's so far from passing the smell test that a bloodhound couldn't pick it up.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

Sounds like PR spin to me. Players like this are on waivers all the time.

So Friedman now does PR for the Flames?

Holy crap man....maybe step away for a bit and actually read what you are laying down here.

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

I think we can withhold judgement until we watch him play. Unless youre following the silver knights closely this and last year.

Sure, the potential is always there that he could turn into the next Giordano. Just like the potential was there for Jankowski to be the best player in the 2012 draft. It didn't turn out that way, but the potential was there.

Enjoy the ride but don't set yourself up for disappointment, I guess.

Originally Posted by transplant99

So Friedman now does PR for the Flames?

Holy crap man....maybe step away for a bit and actually read what you are laying down here.

Friedman is reporting the PR the Flames are putting out. How is that hard to put together?

[All In Good Time]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I think in the future GMs are going to want to think those requests over carefully. Like "you can talk to see what their offers might be but you can't tell them they are out of the running". Which is hard to control, but GMs talk to each other. Agents are going to have to be careful too, because they will risk burning too many bridges. Brisson may have screwed Hanifin here and he might be in the Gaudreau situation in the off season - no offer from his desired team and underwhelming offers from other places. And no 8 year deal, obviously.

Yeah, its a difficult thing to get around, but it isnt really out of bounds and you are right, GM's DO talk. Two of them hear that Hanifin is unlikely to sign and word gets around quick.

I also think the kicker here is that Hanifin had to be treated as a rental in almost any respect, its in his best interest to (even if he is getting traded to the team he wants to eventually go to) keep the price of acquisition as low as possible for the team he is going to.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Parallex

Yup that's bulllllll####.

Like, points for trying... but that's so far from passing the smell test that a bloodhound couldn't pick it up.

When you accuse someone of lying I have to ask - to what end? Is Friedman trying to protect Conroy in your mind? If so, why? He's not some Flames supporter.

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

I'd like to know what people are seeing in Miromanov to make him this sought after d-man.

Did someone say he's sought after? From what I've read, it seems like the 1st and potential 2nd are the key pieces in the deal. It sounded like the Flames asked for the dman because they've had him on their radar for a bit and probably think he may be able to be an everyday bottom pairing guy.

[Ozy_Flame]

Still not good enough to crack Vegas' top six though. If he can't beat out Ben Hutton or Tobias Björnfot for that spot then I have limited expectations.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Still not good enough to crack Vegas' top six though. If he can't beat out Ben Hutton or Tobias Björnfot for that spot then I have limited expectations.

Well, currently those guys are 7/8, and were even before Hanifin came (until Martinez was on IR as of the 6th), so they are not top 6.

And Lanny says Vegas will be good in 2025-26 because those guys will still be on the roster.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by transplant99

So Friedman now does PR for the Flames?

Holy crap man....maybe step away for a bit and actually read what you are laying down here.

No, but he can be used for PR purposes as he often relays what he hears. A lot of what he says is not his opinion, but what others are saying. There could be plenty of spin put on what is said to him.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Braden

Don't mean to nitpick but the first 2 ages I looked up were wrong, Brisson is 22 now. Zack Whitecloud is 27 now.

Those ages will be what they are for the 2025-26 season, which was clearly stated in the post.

[Zary's-Mustache]

Originally Posted by bluejays

SMH. Sounds like Friedman playing the game. Guy is 26. Buried or not what are the chances he’s a gem at this point.

Doesn't need to be a gem when you have Oesterle looking like he belongs on my saturday night shinny team.

All he has to be is a serviceable NHL defenceman and teams will want him.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Those ages will be what they are for the 2025-26 season, which was clearly stated in the post.

Fountain of Youth that Summerlin.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

Sure, the potential is always there that he could turn into the next Giordano. Just like the potential was there for Jankowski to be the best player in the 2012 draft. It didn't turn out that way, but the potential was there.

Enjoy the ride but don't set yourself up for disappointment, I guess.



Friedman is reporting the PR the Flames are putting out. How is that hard to put together?

Because Friedman doesnt "report" ANY teams PR. He works for SN not NHL teams.

Nothing he said suggests it came from anywhere but guys he talks to everyday about league issues and goings on.