The 2016 US American Election Thread

[Senator Clay Davis]

Police unions and all other unions related to law enforcement are naturally backing the candidate who will increase their hours and budgets. Shocker, unions choose the money. Although a Republican candidate getting this much union love is unusual given the general GOP view that unions are terrible.

[Ducay]

Originally Posted by Drak

How is Clinton demonizing law enforcement? Serious question - I probably missed it.

Not so much actively demonizing, but promoting the notion of bias in police (debate #1), and her support and giving attention to BLM to promote their message.

By not giving active support to law enforcement (i.e. by taking or supporting the others' side (be it BLM or whatever), again, not saying she doesn't support law enforcement) but that gives the optics that she supports the narrative that BLM is pushing (law enforcement is racist, does a terrible job, etc).

Trump on the other hand acknowledges there is improvement to be made, but also does not forget these people put their lives on the line every day, and that we shouldn't forget that.

[Izzle]

Lol, Hillary mentioned in the second debate that there needs to be an understanding in the community about the dangers of police work and that the police need to enhance their reputation in the community. Cant be done when the benefit of the doubt is given to one side of the equation.

This article I feel is appropriate:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/9...ings-About-You

BTW, the retort is probably "I dont care for either candidates, they're both horrible". Yet, your posts show more support for Trump than anything.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Ducay

Not so much actively demonizing, but promoting the notion of bias in police (debate #1), and her support and giving attention to BLM to promote their message.

By not giving active support to law enforcement (i.e. by taking or supporting the others' side (be it BLM or whatever), again, not saying she doesn't support law enforcement) but that gives the optics that she supports the narrative that BLM is pushing (law enforcement is racist, does a terrible job, etc).

Trump on the other hand acknowledges there is improvement to be made, but also does not forget these people put their lives on the line every day, and that we shouldn't forget that.

The notion that there's bias in police is scientifically grounded. Secondly, supporting the push to ending police violence on the black isn't "demonizing" anyone. It's systems that need changing, it's not really debatable. Facts back it up very well.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...led-by-police/

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

The notion that there's bias in literally everyone on Earth is scientifically grounded.

Fixed your post.

The article you posted is pretty myopic. Not to say it doesn't make some good points, but its premise is essentially, "okay, so we all know police kill more black people because of racism... but is it really that cops are racist, or is it systemic racism that's the main culprit here?" The reasons are far broader and more complex than that to the point that it's probably impossible to determine how much of the disparity in police violence among races has to do with race itself... but it's pretty hard to talk about them without someone accusing you of being a racist or a Trump supporter.

[Izzle]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Fixed your post.

The article you posted is pretty myopic. Not to say it doesn't make some good points, but its premise is essentially, "okay, so we all know police kill more black people because of racism... but is it really that cops are racist, or is it systemic racism that's the main culprit here?" The reasons are far broader and more complex than that to the point that it's probably impossible to determine how much of the disparity in police violence among races has to do with race itself... but it's pretty hard to talk about them without someone accusing you of being a racist or a Trump supporter.

If a person truly wants to carry a dialogue, they should realize that there is racism in the system. They probably shouldn't be called outright racists, but that their ideas or beliefs have been rooted in racism (systemic or overt). If they shut down because of the word "racist" then they are not really open to dialogue.

This reminds me about that exchange between Scottie Nell Hughes and Ana Navarro. Hughes was offended that Navarro used the word "#####" and that her young children are listening. But she was completely oblivious (or maybe willfully oblivious) that Trump's statement describe predatory behaviour. She was outraged by the word, but not what the statements imply.

[Senator Clay Davis]

This word choice has to be on purpose right? Cause I wanna believe she isn't this outwardly stupid...

[Senator Clay Davis]

Speaking of Kellyanne, here's Anderson Cooper absolutely annihilating her

https://twitter.com/JimmyTraina/stat...13331442237440

[DuffMan]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Trump was on O'Reilly tonight. Had a demeanour that I would describe as "enraged". Called Paul Ryan weak, among numerous other things, and very notably said that if he (Trump) wins, Ryan won't be speaker anymore. Also threw some mucd at McCain. Got extremely defensive at the mildest of criticism from O'Reilly (who it should be mentioned did a good job of trying to keep him in check).

The whole performance was fairly unhinged.

Trump's best quality is his temperament, and he was proving it once again.

[JackJack]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Speaking of Kellyanne, here's Anderson Cooper absolutely annihilating her

https://twitter.com/JimmyTraina/stat...13331442237440

That entire segment was cringeworthy.

[Senator Clay Davis]

These grifters really thought changing the tint of the colours would actually work....Make America Plagiarize (not even real polls) Again!

[direwolf]

This is surprising.

Salt Lake City, Utah (CNN)Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are tied in Utah, according to a new poll released on Wednesday.

The Y2 Analytics poll, published first by Mormon church-owned Deseret News, found both Clinton and Trump at 26% among likely Utah voters, with independent Evan McMullin at 22% and Libertarian Gary Johnson at 14%.
The poll is striking, given Utah is a reliably Republican state that has not voted for a Democrat since Lyndon Johnson in 1964, but comes after Clinton's campaign has mounted a concerted effort to win the Beehive State by driving a wedge between the Republican nominee and Mormon voters.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/12/politi...oll/index.html

[Swift]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Speaking of Kellyanne, here's Anderson Cooper absolutely annihilating her

https://twitter.com/JimmyTraina/stat...13331442237440

Do you know Conway on a personal level? You keep referring to her by her first name.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by Cameron Swift

Do you know Conway on a personal level? You keep referring to her by her first name.

I don't, but since Trump is only ever referred to as Trump and Hillary as Hillary, I guess I'm just now in the habit of the one name basis. If I did know her personally I'd tell her to quit already, she looks rougher and rougher every day we see her. Lying out of your ass 24/7 takes its toll, clearly.

[octothorp]

Originally Posted by Cameron Swift

Do you know Conway on a personal level? You keep referring to her by her first name.

Personally I prefer her being called Kellyanne to keep her straight from republican presidential nominee Conway on House of Cards, but then I have a hard time keeping reality clear from TV sometimes.

(I half joke, but I did once read an excerpt that was talking about Conway and I totally had the HoC character in mind until the article referred to Conway as a she.)

[Swift]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

I don't, but since Trump is only ever referred to as Trump and Hillary as Hillary, I guess I'm just now in the habit of the one name basis. If I did know her personally I'd tell her to quit already, she looks rougher and rougher every day we see her. Lying out of your ass 24/7 takes its toll, clearly.

Hillary markets herself on a first name basis, as does The Donald. I haven't seen you refer to the rest of Trump's gang as Steve or Paul or Rudy or Chris.

It's an annoying thing I've noticed on this message board over the years (and I don't know if you've been responsible for this in the past) where female politicians are only condescendingly referred to by their first name. See Rachel and Alison, but not Stephen or Tom or Jim or Naheed, though Trudeau does get referred to as Justin on here. Partly to presumably differentiate from his father, but also I can't help think that it's partly to play on his youth/inexperience/pretty boy looks.

[bob-loblaw]

Originally Posted by octothorp

Personally I prefer her being called Kellyanne to keep her straight from republican presidential nominee Conway on House of Cards, but then I have a hard time keeping reality clear from TV sometimes.

(I half joke, but I did once read an excerpt that was talking about Conway and I totally had the HoC character in mind until the article referred to Conway as a she.)

Kellyanne's day off... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQieHLWcr9U

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by Cameron Swift

Hillary markets herself on a first name basis, as does The Donald. I haven't seen you refer to the rest of Trump's gang as Steve or Paul or Rudy or Chris.

It's an annoying thing I've noticed on this message board over the years (and I don't know if you've been responsible for this in the past) where female politicians are only condescendingly referred to by their first name. See Rachel and Alison, but not Stephen or Tom or Jim or Naheed, though Trudeau does get referred to as Justin on here. Partly to presumably differentiate from his father, but also I can't help think that it's partly to play on his youth/inexperience/pretty boy looks.

I think it's a fame basis thing and not a gender thing. Truth is she's not the most famous Clinton in the world, she is however the most famous Hillary in the world, so we go with that. No one has called him Donald for a while, just Trump because he's the most famous Trump in the world, while Donald Duck is obviously the most famous (and smartest and least racist) Donald in the world. Kellyanne is....literally the only person I know in the world named Kellyanne.

[MissTeeks]

Um:

[Senator Clay Davis]

Please be true, please be true, please be....

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Trump on the Commission for Presidential Debates: "I have no respect for that group by the way, I'm done."

https://twitter.com/CandaceSmith_/st...62723323715584