2015 NHL Draft

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by azzarish

Not sure there is a drop off after the top 20. There are some players that will go 31-35 that would be first rounders in another year.

Regarding acquiring 2 picks in the top 20, I think that would be difficult. Remember moving up and swapping places with another team would get them our 15, and that's hard enough to do. Acquiring another top 20 pick without doing that would be even harder, but if we offer 3 2nd's then I suppose a team would think about it. I just think a top 20 pick in this year's draft is too valuable to give up. It is a good question though.

Saying that, I'm sure Treliving is working out many different scenarios, and he does have chips to play with. I think he would rather move up and draft someone in the top 10, then give up all his 2nd's and draft twice in the top 20. It is an interesting thought though because 2 top 20 picks could set us up for years. It would still mean we stay the course in terms of building the team through the draft. I don't know, it's just exciting to know what could happen here.

Toronto's pick @24 is there for the taking. Thats an assumption by me of course but they do not have any 2nd round picks.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I doubt he slips down to 15 but if he does he'd be one of the few I'd hope they'd take instead of Svechnikov. Guy knows how to play tough hockey already and like they say, he still needs to fill out, meaning his upside is huge.

Really, one of the few besides Svechnikov? I know you like him and he's clearly you're guy but I gotta think you're getting way too focused on just one player here. Not too often that I've been following drafts were I see a plethora of options. Lots to choose from at 15.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Really, one of the few besides Svechnikov? I know you like him and he's clearly you're guy but I gotta think you're getting way too focused on just one player here. Not too often that I've been following drafts were I see a plethora of options. Lots to choice from at 15.

Okay, want a list of the few? here:

Connor
Zacha
Rantanen (I'd move heaven and Earth if it meant the Flames could get this player)
Barzal

Thats about it. Want no part of the D men that'll be in the area.

And just because Svechnikov is "my" guy (which according to the CP poll is the majority of CP's guy), doesn't mean I am going to hang myself if they take Konecny or Merkely.

There are plenty of options you're right. No one is saying there isn't.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Really, don't like Jeremy Roy?

Barzal and Connor likely to be gone.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Really, don't like Jeremy Roy?

Barzal and Connor likely to be gone.

Exactly. Same with Zacha. Zacha has been rising and falling all year, meaning he could be the guy who slips but by all accounts COL is going to take him even though they really need D men.

Roy's okay, just don't see him as a top 20 guy, and certainly not a beter option thn a certain player Im high on.
Zboril does interest me but still not as much as other players.

And Chabot seems like a 2nd round pick to me. Watch Eriksson Ek's U-18 highlight package along with Colin White's. Chabot looks terrible. If I was drafting for a defenseman, Chabot would be one of the few I would avoid at all costs. I'd rather take Carlo (who I LOVE, but not at 15).

[Bourque's Twin]

Not a fan of Jeremy Roy either.

I was in the Svechnikov camp too, but I've been leaning more towards Konecny. His skillset and compete level would fit in nicely on the Flames.

[dammage79]

I think at the end of the day the reason why I am so high on Svechnikov and trumpeting his value to the Flames is that he is the next best option to Ranatanen in the Flames range. Mikko Rantanen is the guy I want out of almost everyone available aside from the top 2 in this draft.

Rantanen is the man. Much like I was gushing over Barkov in Monny's draft year.

[nik-]

I've decided to go in blind this year. Don't really know a whole lot about the guys in our range and I'll just learn about our guy when he gets picked. I would like a couple d men picked in the first 3 rounds at least though so I guess that's my only leaning.

[Cheerio]

I choose prospects by how bust worthy their name sounds. Jeremy Roy is a top 5 bust name as is Travis Konecny, whereas a guy with a name like Evgeni Svechnikov or Nick Merkley has a way lower chance of busting. Really a shame no NHL team has hired me to advise on their draft yet.

[The Fonz]

Need me some Konecny.

[kn]

With an apparent NHL-KHL transfer agreement coming soon that will be in place for four years, is the "Russian factor" still an issue?

[H2SO4(aq)]

Originally Posted by Cheerio

I choose prospects by how bust worthy their name sounds. Jeremy Roy is a top 5 bust name as is Travis Konecny, whereas a guy with a name like Evgeni Svechnikov or Nick Merkley has a way lower chance of busting. Really a shame no NHL team has hired me to advise on their draft yet.

I tend to do this as well..

[icarus]

Originally Posted by Cheerio

I choose prospects by how bust worthy their name sounds. Jeremy Roy is a top 5 bust name as is Travis Konecny, whereas a guy with a name like Evgeni Svechnikov or Nick Merkley has a way lower chance of busting. Really a shame no NHL team has hired me to advise on their draft yet.

What is your gut feeling on Filip Ahl?

[Fire]

Originally Posted by kn

With an apparent NHL-KHL transfer agreement coming soon that will be in place for four years, is the "Russian factor" still an issue?

The transfer agreement wouldn't prevent Russian drafted players from signing in the KHL. Though I wouldn't be concerned about drafting Svechnikov.

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by H2SO4(aq)

I tend to do this as well..

Roope Hintz = Oilers pick and bust

[sureLoss]

Outsider Sports mock draft podcast. Good listen

http://ostalk.podbean.com/mf/web/zj9b6w/OST111.m4a

[icecube]

Originally Posted by icarus

What is your gut feeling on Filip Ahl?

He sounds less risky than Ivan Khl

[Poe969]

I've been kind of souring on Chabot too, Roy doesn't seem like anything special to me either. Zboril seems like a better fit and I'd LOVE the idea of getting Carlo with a late first or early second if at all possible. I think he'll be the gem of the second round for sure.

[Caged Great]

I'm kind of souring on all the defensemen in the first round except Zboril, and even he would be lower on my list. There are too many good forwards at 15 to take a D-man in my opinion. There are plenty of D in the 2nd round that aren't much worse than guys like Roy, Chabot etc.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

I'm kind of souring on all the defensemen in the first round except Zboril, and even he would be lower on my list. There are too many good forwards at 15 to take a D-man in my opinion. There are plenty of D in the 2nd round that aren't much worse than guys like Roy, Chabot etc.

I agree with this.

Unless one of the top 3 d-men magically falls to 15 then I think you go BPA in round 1 and that is likely a forward.

There is a glut of d-men in round 2 and you can probably pick up 2 d-men in that round that are not much different then the guys in the 15-25 range.